Payton Traded to Celtics

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Postby Riot on Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:24 am

what puts people in the seats like good ole Rick Fox and Gary Payton right? :lol:
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Postby GloveGuy on Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:24 am

The Celtics staff is supposedly in love with Delonte West and seem to be fixed on him being the PG of the future. Read the article.
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Postby Sauru on Sat Aug 07, 2004 10:58 am

if al jefferson is not starting opening night he will be before the season ends. this guy has been great thus far and alot of teams are regretting not takeing him. west was already better than banks so banks was now not needed. the celtics got better this season and in the future with this trade. after the season we clear 2 more contracts and will finally be under the cap. i only hope ainge can find a taker for ricky davis next and i know i am pushing my luck here but i would also like to see raef gone.

so anyway the celts definetly got better this season and after this season we will improve even more so.
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Postby Matt on Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:27 pm

1. Payton won't a part of any 'best backcourt in the league'.
2. Lakers get Atkins, who can shoot the 3 real well, and he creates shots for himself...something that Fisher couldn't do
3. If i were the Celtics the next trade would involve getting rid of Ricky Davis....not good for any team
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Postby Matthew on Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:41 pm

I like this trade for boston. If (and yes, its a big if) but if Payton returns to pre-laker form, him and peirce will be the best backcourt in the nba. The Lakers tho.. they remind me an awful lot of the clippers a few years ago. Atkins at point guard? Just when you thought things couldn't get worse. They have replaced shaq and payton with vlade and atkins... that'll teach espn for calling them the best franchise in the nba :twisted:
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Postby Riot on Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:01 pm

laker fans think this trade is awesome. I think they just say that to say that.


I see the lakers not even in the playoffs this year.

Wolves, Spurs, Mavs, Rockets, Grizz, Nuggets, Jazz, Kings and maybe even the Blazers are better than the Lakers I think. Maybe even the Suns?
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Postby Andrew on Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:33 pm

FanOfAll wrote:I honestly don't think Fox will play. He was traded away from Beantown because he didn't want to play there when he was drafted.


I know this isn't the most important point in the whole discussion but since I like useless trivia: Fox actually signed with the Lakers prior to the 1997/1998 season after the Celtics elected not to re-sign him. He had been planning to stay in Boston, but the Celtics renounced his rights making him an unrestricted free agent.

I guess the Lakers really want to prove that Kobe can do it by himself. Even if Atkins can replace Fisher, Banks proves to be a good floor leader in a run-and-gun offense and Mihm plays most of the year putting up solid numbers, I believe Boston got the better end of the deal - even if it is a short term solution as far as GP and Fox are concerned.

Since West and Jefferson seem to have made Banks and Mihm expendable, there's no harm using them to bring in established veterans, especially since GP should have something left in the tank. If he plays, Fox can be another experienced player off the bench. GP returning to a form that resembles the player he was pre-Lakers is certainly a "What If", but not too unlikely in my opinion.
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Postby FanOfAll on Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:44 pm

Andrew wrote:
FanOfAll wrote:I honestly don't think Fox will play. He was traded away from Beantown because he didn't want to play there when he was drafted.


I know this isn't the most important point in the whole discussion but since I like useless trivia: Fox actually signed with the Lakers prior to the 1997/1998 season after the Celtics elected not to re-sign him. He had been planning to stay in Boston, but the Celtics renounced his rights making him an unrestricted free agent.

I stand corrected then :). Bad memory :x.
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Postby Andrew on Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:46 pm

Not being able to remember useless trivia isn't necessarily a bad thing, though. ;)
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Postby thaKEAF on Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:19 pm

Doc Rivers and GP were on Best Damn Sports Show, they both seemed to be happy with the deal.
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Postby [Q] on Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:24 pm

:evil: :evil: :evil:
I can't wait to see Payton come back and destroy Kobe & the Lakers twice this season (and Shaq will kill Kobe too!)...

Glove Guy wrote:
I'm a bit disappointed that the Lakers gave up on Payton. I thought that he could've done really well running the point out of the triangle.

But on the other hand, I'm pretty psyched since I live in Boston and I get to watch Payton play every game now. He's still got a few years left in him, but it sucks to see him going from team to team now.


I argee with the first part. With out Shaq and the triangle this year, things were looking up for GP. I am the complete opposite on the second though... I live in LA and this year it was disappointing to see GP perform poolry in mostly all of the 82+ games... now I only see him play twice. (well actually FOUR, cuz of the Clips). I hope GP, PP, and Tricky Ricky dominate whatever division they're in (new divisions... it will take some time to get used to them). Oh well.... I looked on the website Jumaine Jones has #20. He better give it up or GP might have to revert to the old #2. This is ALMOST screwed up as Seattle trading him to the Bucks...
Bottom line, stupid Lakers gave up on him and I hope they (and Kobe) pay. :twisted:
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Postby Sauru on Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:40 pm

there is alot to be said for revenge as a primary motivation. shaq and now payton(payton more so) now have something to prove. payton was bashed all year and was down right laughed at during the playoffs. payton is far to much of a competitor(sp?) to go down without a fight. do i think he will be as good as he was pre LA? no way, but i can almost 100% guarentee(i guess the almost dont really make it 100% huh) that he will d better this season than he did with LA. he can still score and score often, what he lacks is the defensive quickness he once had. thats where team basketball comes into play. the lakers dont understand the meaning of the word team so payton was hung out to dry.

also to be honest, at the very least, he can provide many words to help the celtics young players grow. dont underestimate the value of a tried and true nba warrior.
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Postby Alcoholic on Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:11 am

laker fans think this trade is awesome. I think they just say that to say that.


I hate this trade!!!! :evil: Payton would have done well, but they traded him! And Fox too! (Did Fox even decide if he'd retire or not?) Payton didn't want to go to the celtics!!!!! God damn this Laker management!!
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Postby Jay-Peso on Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:32 am

Lakers are going to have a rough year compared to last year :roll:
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Postby Riot on Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:59 am

*cough* lottery *cough* :lol:
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Postby Jackal on Sun Aug 08, 2004 7:58 am

Riot wrote:laker fans think this trade is awesome. I think they just say that to say that.


Ok, I think everyone can forgive me for being rude and all, but are you just pulling that comment out of your ass? Just a question...

What's a person to do except say FUCK Jerry Buss & Mitch Cup of Shit.

Stupid idiotic white ass motherfuckers.

Now I really want Kobe to go to jail. That'll teach those white high so shit motherfuckers to pull off shit like this.

Malone won't be back, Shaq is out, Payton is out, Fox is gone. Woopity fucking doo (you as what this is and I will never leave you alone)...we gonna be NBA Champs. :bday:

God-damn stupid mofo's... :evil:

Oh, I would apologise and say I'm sorry for the use of profanity, but I've been taught that lying is bad.
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Postby Riot on Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:36 am

I'm not talking about everyone, but I know a lot of laker fans that just say I love this trade to not point out a weakness or something.

Lakers are lottery bound!

Who gunna represent the LA Kobe's in the lottery drawing? Who is Kobe going to draft?
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Postby Jackal on Sun Aug 08, 2004 9:02 am

Riot wrote:I'm not talking about everyone, but I know a lot of laker fans that just say I love this trade to not point out a weakness or something.


In other words, you just pulled that comment out of your ass and have nothing to back that comment up.

Lakers are lottery bound!


Because you said so, right? :roll:

Who gunna represent the LA Kobe's in the lottery drawing? Who is Kobe going to draft?


Hardy har har? Are you trying to be funny or are you just joining in on what everyone else is saying?

How about you start worrying about your team? Sound like a plan? :roll:
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Postby -BHZMAFIA- on Sun Aug 08, 2004 9:37 am

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Postby Riot on Sun Aug 08, 2004 10:02 am

i have stuff to back up my comments but your too blind and ignorant to see them.
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Postby [Q] on Sun Aug 08, 2004 11:54 am

Jackal wrote:
Riot wrote:laker fans think this trade is awesome. I think they just say that to say that.


Ok, I think everyone can forgive me for being rude and all, but are you just pulling that comment out of your ass? Just a question...

What's a person to do except say FUCK Jerry Buss & Mitch Cup of Shit.

Stupid idiotic white ass motherfuckers.

Now I really want Kobe to go to jail. That'll teach those white high so shit motherfuckers to pull off shit like this.

Malone won't be back, Shaq is out, Payton is out, Fox is gone. Woopity fucking doo (you as what this is and I will never leave you alone)...we gonna be NBA Champs. :bday:

God-damn stupid mofo's... :evil:

Oh, I would apologise and say I'm sorry for the use of profanity, but I've been taught that lying is bad.


Haha Mitch "The Bitch" Cup of Shit... :lol:
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Postby Riot on Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:10 pm

off topic:

Wtf happened to your car? :lol:
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Postby [Q] on Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:58 pm

:lol:
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~nbalive/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14227&highlight=
well, it was funny until i realized it was my car and i had to go to work that day... all i salvaged were my cds sunglasses and bball shoes...
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Postby Riot on Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:00 pm

lmao :lol:

thats fucked up man
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Postby Jackal on Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:08 am

Riot wrote:i have stuff to back up my comments but your too blind and ignorant to see them.


*shrug*

Perhaps if you would actually bother SHOWING me the "stuff" you have to back up your comments, I would be less "ignorant & blind".

Right? No? Oh... :roll:
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