Michael Jordan

[:digerati:]

Because we allow him to be, because we don't care about the truth only whatever we're told by the media. But if we stop being ignorant and we can teach others to not be ignorant and criminal promoting, then eventually we will see these bad people punished rather than praised. And then we will have a world, in my opinion, that will do what's right rather than wrong in blatantly obvious cases such as this. But since we appear to prefer to just let it go, it's ok to break the law after all, humanity is probably doomed and i'm glad i won't be around to see it fail.

[GloveGuy]

He is just another human

Exactly, he is just another human. Who makes mistakes like you and me. And take into consideration that this was like 10 years ago. MJ loves his wife. If he didn't than they'd be divorced already. Yes Jordan maybe a LITTLE overhyped but he is still an incredible basketball player. I feel bad for him that his private life is always out to the world. A middle-aged man who works at 7-11 down the street could currently be on trial for adultery but the world wouldn't know. I do not believe that he owes this woman 5 million. She just wants his money. I can't blame Michael TOO much because he's a superstar who could have millions of women. You don't think Shaq bangs a random woman like everyother night? And I'll say it again, that was more than 10 years ago, we should just let it go.

[unstoppable]

gloveguy,

she

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[unstoppable]

Michael AIR Jordan

21 points

9 rebounds

6 steals

4 assists

2 blocks

Washington 88 @ Detroit 83

[:digerati:]

Exactly, he is just another human. Who makes mistakes like you and me. And take into consideration that this was like 10 years ago. MJ loves his wife. If he didn't than they'd be divorced already. Yes Jordan maybe a LITTLE overhyped but he is still an incredible basketball player. I feel bad for him that his private life is always out to the world. A middle-aged man who works at 7-11 down the street could currently be on trial for adultery but the world wouldn't know. I do not believe that he owes this woman 5 million. She just wants his money. I can't blame Michael TOO much because he's a superstar who could have millions of women. You don't think Shaq bangs a random woman like everyother night? And I'll say it again, that was more than 10 years ago, we should just let it go.

He's in the spotlight so he has to be better than us, or he causes problems. How many kids now think it's ok to do this? Who cares about the 7-11 guy? He probably wouldn't be on trial for adultery (since it isn't illegal to my knowledge, only a cause and basis for divorce, but it would depend on the state most likely) but he certainly wouldn't have $5 million in contract breakings. The fact is, his private life is out there, that's a consequence of publicity. But, had Michael Jordan NOT screwed up, he wouldn't have this problem, would he? And didn't his wife move to divorce him? I think she did.

You can't blame Jordan? You HAVE to, he did it, he could have not done it, but he did it. Therefore you HAVE to blame him.

And you're just focusing on the adultery, what about the assault, the gambling, the promoting of slavery. We should just say he's right and tell kids to be like him? Is that seriously what you are saying here?

[unstoppable]

Michael Jordan attempted 16 FREE-THROWS tonight

MJ taking it to the hoop as promised

[unstoppable]

This is the official Michael Jordan thread.

LOL... You're such an unstoppable guy...

bahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Stevan]

hmm an official MJ thread... sounds good to me, nice idea Unstoppable. It's a good idea to keep track of what's going on with MJ in the NBA this season.

[unstoppable]

AbSoLuTeLy

[air gordon]

16 FTA's for MJ? Doesn't Stackhouse get a lot of FTA's for the Wiz also? That's a lot of chances for easy points. i think these 2 players form one of the strongest duos in the league when it comes to closing out games.

I haven't seen a michael jordan 'be like mike' gatorade commercial for a long time. before these latest out of court problems started happening, i had heard that jordan is backing out of some of his endorsement deals.

was jordan convicted of or accused of assault? or are you referring to the time he clocked steve kerr in the face during a practice circa 1996? i found it amusing hearing jordan explain that one.

another senseless post made by me. if there is a problem understanding my post, please feel free to contact me. any thoughts/reactions/opinions, or what not are welcome

[unstoppable]

limpdilznik, that was a slick post.

MJ was only averaging about 3 free-throw attempts per game before this game. But just before the game he told the media that his legs are no longer a concern and that he will be focusing on inside scoring from now on. So no doubt about it, the Wizards have something very special with Stack and MJ dominating the lanes and getting to the line.

[f.t.w.]

damn near any player in the league that has a shoe contract is in the same 'slavery promoting' boat as MJ.
¤, you were sticking up for AI about that bogus charges against him from last summer, but do you think those reeboks he's wearing weren't made in the sweatshops next door to the air jordan sweatshop and adidas sweatshop, etc? I think new balance is one of the few shoes endorsed by players that aren't manufactured in a third world country.
Also ¤, USA is a well-oiled capitalist machine. capitalism and morality are mutually exclusive. That jack ass of a president of ours has seedy connections with white-collar criminals, he apparently used to be partial to the nose candy, he's got a DUI under his belt and he dodged the vietnam draft by joining the texas national gaurd, then moving out of state and failing to report for subsequent national gaurd duty. capitalism ignores ethics, and no one will turn their back on anyone that generates capital.
I'm a fairly new dad and as my boy grows up I will embrace my responsibility to try to instill my ethical views in him. The round mound spoke it well: 'I am not a role model. Parents should be role models.'
it sure as fu©k ain't easy, and it will never be perfectly efficient, but it gives us better odds than to hope that celebrities and politicians will uphold each of our subjective visions of morality and ethics.

[:digerati:]

damn near any player in the league that has a shoe contract is in the same 'slavery promoting' boat as MJ.
¤, you were sticking up for AI about that bogus charges against him from last summer, but do you think those reeboks he's wearing weren't made in the sweatshops next door to the air jordan sweatshop and adidas sweatshop, etc? I think new balance is one of the few shoes endorsed by players that aren't manufactured in a third world country.

I was only talking about AI's bogus charges, because everyone wanted him strung up. I never said he was a perfect person.

That jack ass of a president

He's not a jackass.

of ours has seedy connections with white-collar criminals

Just like all the ones before him, the ones after him.

he apparently used to be partial to the nose candy, he's got a DUI under his belt and he dodged the vietnam draft by joining the texas national gaurd, then moving out of state and failing to report for subsequent national gaurd duty.

Oddly, he does these things, people hate him, Clinton does equal or worse and his ratings go up...simply moronic.

I'm a fairly new dad and as my boy grows up I will embrace my responsibility to try to instill my ethical views in him. The round mound spoke it well: 'I am not a role model. Parents should be role models.'
it sure as fu©k ain't easy, and it will never be perfectly efficient, but it gives us better odds than to hope that celebrities and politicians will uphold each of our subjective visions of morality and ethics.

Good. At least someone cares, unlike most of the rest of the people on here. I commend you.

[GloveGuy]

He's not a jackass.

Since we don't personally know him we can't say whether he is or not by I think he is a bad president, like many Republicans, who care more about defeating their enemy then taking care of the people.

Oddly, he does these things, people hate him, Clinton does equal or worse and his ratings go up...simply moronic.

Clinton may have had some poor traits as a person and unfortunately for him, these traits were used against him as a president. But Clinton was a good president, who cared more about the people then he did about the enemies. If he, or Al Gore, were in office then the economy wouldn't be sinking and we DEFINITELY wouldn't be going to war with Iraq. Oh yeah, Clinton's ratings didn't go up after he did the terrible things like having an affair. Only the close-minded people thought less of him as a President.

Anyways....this is a Michael Jordan thread so lets talk MJ. I still don't believe that Michael really does owe this ho 5 million. Yeah they may have had a small relationship but she's just trying to get his money. Lets just drop the topic and forget that it happend because it was SOOOOOOO long ago. He wouldn't do it again and if he had, he would've divorced his wife. I wouldn't be surprised if other players did the same.

[:digerati:]

But Clinton was a good president, who cared more about the people then he did about the enemies.

If he was truely caring for the people, he would care about enemies such as Usama bin Laden (who he said, wasn't a threat)

If he, or Al Gore, were in office then the economy wouldn't be sinking and we DEFINITELY wouldn't be going to war with Iraq.

Wrong on the first part (since Clinton/Gore is the adminstration that ruined the economy in the first place...and then lied about it) and right on the second part (because they don't care about national security, but appeasing everyone)

Oh yeah, Clinton's ratings didn't go up after he did the terrible things like having an affair.

Yes, they did. Look it up.

Only the close-minded people thought less of him as a President.

That's a close-minded statement to begin with. I for one only thought less of him as an ethical person (not that politicians are ever ethical). I thought of him less as President as he did worse and worse "Presidental" things over his adminstration, not "personal" stuff.

Anyways....this is a Michael Jordan thread so lets talk MJ. I still don't believe that Michael really does owe this ho 5 million. Yeah they may have had a small relationship but she's just trying to get his money. Lets just drop the topic and forget that it happend because it was SOOOOOOO long ago.

Let's drop the topic...of Michael Jordan? Yet, you said, let's talk about Michael Jordan? The fact is, Michael Jordan made an agreement to pay this woman (whore or not) and he didn't. Yes, why don't we forget everything that happened 10+ years ago? There was no World War I or II, there was no Celtics dynasty, the United States was never formed, that fella that shot and killed 30 people, happened a long time ago, let's forget it, let him out of jail, happened a long time ago.

He wouldn't do it again and if he had, he would've divorced his wife.

Oh yeah, that would've been real smart. Divorce your wife so you can have sex with other women. He wouldn't have lost millions upon millions of dollars in that one.

I wouldn't be surprised if other players did the same.

Divorced their wives? or committed sins against them? From what I gather, most NBA-wives are very close to their husbands, or the players aren't married, or they're Allen Iverson. Well, at least we don't hear them calling their wives "PR moves". Then there's Doug Christie...

[f.t.w.]

I think hes a complete jackass. George W. Bush, not Jordan.
Actually, I think Jordan's a jackass too, but there's a difference. I think Kurt Cobain was a jackass, but I love his work, as much as I love Jordan's work. They are artists, craftsmen. I wouldn't care about Dubya being such a phoney and daddy's boy if he did some kind of work I could appreciate. Being that he's just a corporate puppet and I don't like the work they have him do anyway, seeing dubya turns my stomach.
even at 40 years old, even though he can't go from the free throw line to dunk it anymore, its still like watching a dancer and 9 other dudes with club feet when MJ plays. Its that I don't need him to be a decent human being to get what I want from him. And besides, for all the wrong Jordan has done, its not like he's attempting to wage a war on a country on the basis of financial gain and personal vendetta.

[:digerati:]

I wouldn't care about Dubya being such a phoney and daddy's boy if he did some kind of work I could appreciate. Being that he's just a corporate puppet and I don't like the work they have him do anyway, seeing dubya turns my stomach.

George W. Bush is not a phony, daddys boy, or corporate puppet. And he's doing fairly good so far. Plus he won't ruin the economy and lie about it, ignore terrorist masterminds and release other terrorists so they can fly planes into buildings.

its not like he's attempting to wage a war on a country on the basis of financial gain and personal vendetta.

Who's doing that?

[JOSEPATCHES]

its not like he's attempting to wage a war on a country on the basis of financial gain and personal vendetta.

Who's doing that?

Bush will do it

[GloveGuy]

George W. Bush is not a phony, daddys boy, or corporate puppet. And he's doing fairly good so far. Plus he won't ruin the economy and lie about it, ignore terrorist masterminds and release other terrorists so they can fly planes into buildings.

Why do you think the economy started going down the most after Bush came into office. Don't you know how much more its gonna go down after this war that Bush is planning. I still think that Gore should've won but was cheated because of messed up ballots and racist police not letting people who were black in(who would've obviously voted for Gore).

[unstoppable]

OMG spin boy, u may think pointing out michael jordan's faults reduces his appeal, but it actually increases his appeal to know that he has faults like the average dude on the street. so keep those negative thoughts about mj rolling if u must, cos it will never reduce his popularity.

[air gordon]

i don't to step in this other discussion but i would prefer to get back to the jordan discussion. but if you guys want to talk this other stuff, fine with me also. it's just my preference to read up on posts about Jordan.

i think artest broke jordan's ribs last year. anyone else agree?

[unstoppable]

Yep most of the reports suggest it was Artest. The only question in my mind is whether it was due to a fight or a hard foul. I know Artest plays very tough defense so it could easily have been within the flow of the game, but i also know that MJ has fought more than one dude in training over the years. You just never know...

[Rens]

Why do you think the economy started going down the most after Bush came into office.

[color=olive]The Euro.

Don't you know how much more its gonna go down after this war that Bush is planning. I still think that Gore should've won but was cheated because of messed up ballots and racist police not letting people who were black in(who would've obviously voted for Gore).

The Gore comment has nothing to do with this. The economy will not likey go down a lot more, the inflation in Europe is now the lowest in two years, so it seems the recession will be over.

[unstoppable]

I don't have the figures on me right now but apparently Bush increased his lead after all the re-counted ballots.

[unstoppable]

trust an official michael jordan thread to extend far beyond the realms of pro basketball. MJ really is larger than the game itself.