What do u think about YAOMING?

[fgrep15]

Gasol is the PF, Lorenzen and Stromile play the 5 more.

If Duncan plays center most of the time, then what does Rasho do in his 28.4 minutes on the court

[air gordon]

Ripken being an all star in the last few years of his career? pfft...

dirk being caller a center is an insult to centers

As for Yao, he has a world of potential, good fundamentals and footwork, but he is still a work in progress. I dont think he's ready to be the leader of the rockets. One day he will be tho..

the game today against LA really impressed me..

now tell me who else in the league can compete against shaq physically like yao did? who else doesn't back down from shaq? who else can dominate over shaq, even if it was just one night? and who else can get smacked in the head hard by shaq and still dunk on him?

[Mark Nordstrom]

what he plays one good game a gainst shaq and hes an all star. HE IS AVGING 16ppg and not even 10 rpg. HE IS NOT AN ALL STAR. He should not even be a reserve. Hes an all star because hes the most popular C in the league.

Also Gasol plays C half the game for memphis.

Oh yah KG is a better C then Yao ever will be ( and dont say he doesnt play it because your blind if you think that).

[idiot]

and will not for years to come.

...then Yao ever will be

[fgrep15]

Also Gasol plays C half the game for memphis.

Well Lorenzen is the Starting center, and he plays 26.2 mpg, Gasol plays 32.3 mpg. So about 6 more minutes. 26 isn't half of 48. Also Gasol wouldn't play the rest of the center minutes because they are on the court together many times, so lets say they are on together for about 20 mins, that only leave about 12 mins for Gasol to play the 5. Then also Stromile plays center off the bench and plays 19.3 minutes per game. He's gotta be in with him too at some point therefore Pau probably plays hardly any minutes at center, maybe on defense because of matchups.

Also we never know, Yao could become better than anyone expects, their are always surprises, did you think Micheal Redd would be good, or Ronald Murray, or even Ben Wallace, probably not.

Right now he's below them obviously, but they are also more experienced than him, also comparing Yao and Gasol's scoring isn't that good a point, Yao shoots a better percentage from the line and the field, so the only reason his scoring is lower would be b/c he shoots less. Also its not like Gasol is some rebounding machine either, 7.9 rpg isn't anything phenomenal, and Yao is beating him by a very slim margin in blocks too.

[wangster]

To be honest he is just another Bradley.

I'd like to see Shawn Bradley spin and dunk in Ben Wallace's face. I'd like to see Shawn Bradley consistently get good positions in the post and consistently get up good-looking hook shots over other centers let alone sink most of them. I'd like to see Shawn Bradley undauntedly attack Shaq face to face, and bring an arsenal of moves right up against the most dominant center in the game right now. I'd like to see Shawn Bradley come even close to dropping 29 points on Shaq in a single game.

If you don't think Yao has a better offensive game than Shawn Bradley, I have a hard time believing it's worth taking you seriously.

[Mark Nordstrom]

When Shawn Bradley trys he has the same moves Yao has. The fact is he does not care to play and is just there because its the only thing to do when your 7'6.

When its all said and done, Yao wont be one of the top 5 Cs in league ever.

Right now hes not even top 5.

You ask who ??

Shaq
Wallace
Miller
Divac(when he plays)
Dampier

[1CenT]

I think Yao deserves to be all-star reserve.. maybe the last guy on the west team.. he is at the point where he barely makes it..
He plays too little minutes and gets the ball too little to be an all-star..

Anyways..
i doubt anyone that knows basketball will start a franchise with a young brad miller or dampier over yao..
a young divac? maybe.. , wallace.. i dunno if you can build a team off his defence only..

I do find Mark Nordstrom's posts funny.. Yao's stats are fine.. providing he only gets his limited minutes and how many shots does he take per game? if you take account into that.. and how slow the rockets play.. you'll see how dominating he is already ..

[Mark Nordstrom]

I dont care if you dont shoot alot. Thats him not being aggresive and if your not willing to take the shots then you dont deserve to be starting an all star game above shaq who takes shots all game.

I would start a franchise with Wallace hes prob one of the best Defensive players in the game ever. Maybe not a Divac but a Miller yah, hes a big guy that can hit the jumper and pass, threat for triple double every night.

[fgrep15]

Or it could mean that he isn't getting the ball?? Also you cna't shoot every time you get the ball its just dumb.

The you give floppy Divac props over Yao, yea cause he's very aggressive, and his highest average was 16.0 ppg, maybe he wasn't aggresive enough and didn't take shots thats why.

Ben Wallace? Franchise players must be able to score, yea we are down by 2 lets get the ball in Big Ben's hands for the game winner.

[air gordon]

imo it seems like some people here have double standards for yao. you say he soft, not aggressive, etc and then when he busts out monster performances like the one he did against arguably the league's most dominant force, you still find a way to knock him for that performance.

this isn't like tony delk going for 50pts or whatever crazy amount he did that one day. yao is a work in progress, so his inconsistency is expected. these monster performances imo are signs of what's to come

i can't believe my eyes- you would pick miller or wallace over yao to build your franchise around?
you want to see miller's work as the franchise- see the bulls record during his stay there
wallace? wallace is a great defensive force and his rebounding #'s, steals, blocks are terrific. do you really want to build your franchise around a one dimensional 6'9 pf who is entering his 30's?

[Mark Nordstrom]

I would take miller over yao because he offers more, I would take a Young Divac over Yao because he knows the game.

Yao is not aggresive and this is the same shit people said about Bradley when he came into league, he is learning and will be great lol. Look at him now ?? Ive heard it once and heard it again.

Yao will not be as good as people think. YOU CANNOT LEARN TO BE AGGRESIVE. you cannot learn to want to be the best. You either want it now or never.

[Matthew]

imo it seems like some people here have double standards for yao.

I agree there is adouble standard for yao, but not so much what you said dude. Yao Ming gets alot of allowances that Lebron doesnt, and what i mean is that lebron isnt in the game essentially to "pay his dues" but yet yao is in the game, and was last year as well. Also, when yao doesnt perform well "he's learning" or "developing" or "needs more shots". Can you imagine If lebron James or Carmelo fans were saying the same thing?

[1CenT]

I'm not sure how well Brad Miller will play without his sharpshooter Peja, Bibby and Bobby Jackson. and Center counterpart Divac + the awsome freeflowing passing game of the Kings...

Can you imagine Yao on the Kings?
Have a 7'5 guy dissing it to Peja and Bibby and handing off to Bobby Jackson for tough layins?

Or even Yao inplace of Divac..

I would think they'll are the favourite to win it all with Yao instead of either Divac or Brad..

OR
maybe Mark is right all along, Yao could be the next Bradley, thats why they call him the Dynasty now?... thats why you see flashes or brilliance becoming more and more consistent.. but at the end... He'll lose 50 pounds and lose his bball smarts and lose his hookshots and little fallaway jumpers...

[benji]

I'm not sure how well Brad Miller will play without his sharpshooter Peja, Bibby and Bobby Jackson. and Center counterpart Divac + the awsome freeflowing passing game of the Kings...

He'll be one of the three best centers in the league...like he was in Indiana (Robinson retired remember...) and like he is now?

I would think they'll are the favourite to win it all with Yao instead of either Divac or Brad..

They should be the favorites to win it all now.

He'll lose 50 pounds and lose his bball smarts and lose his hookshots and little fallaway jumpers...

I believe Yao is only 20 pounds more than Bradley. Bradley has terrific basketball smarts, unfortunately he cannot put his body+smarts+talents together. If Dallas used him like he was Mark Eaton they would probably be the best team in the league (evidence: see start of last season). He also has the best mid-range jumper on the team, according to all the Mavericks players, Mavericks coaches and anyone who's ever seen him shoot it.

Still, Ming is a lot better. I think I agree with Matt Guokas that Yao is a bigger chinese version of Bob Pettit.

[PRoPuLsiOnDJ]

yao will be way bigger in the NBA than Lebron will be. I think 5 to 10 years down the line ... Lebron will have to go thru yao to win the championship. but nobody will be able to stop yao ... i believe that he will be the greatest ever if he gets stronger and tougher .... and plays dominating defense (which he already does).

[benji]

i believe that he will be the greatest ever

Let me know when Yao drops 50 points, grabs 25 boards and blocks 8 shots a game while playing every minute of every game in a season...

[Se7en>>Dimension]

I, personally, think he's overrated but he has fundamentals.

[Matthew]

wow ben your quoting has improved

blocks 8 shots a game

Who blocked 8 shots a game?

[PRoPuLsiOnDJ]

Let me know when Yao drops 50 points, grabs 25 boards and blocks 8 shots a game while playing every minute of every game in a season...

He sure can get 8 blocks a game if he gets stronger and tougher. And he doesnt need to score 50 points and 25 boards a game to be the best ever. All he needs to do is deliver for his team and win championships. That is what defines greatness.

If Wilt Chamberlain was playing today, he wouldnt even average 40 ppg. But if Yao was playing back in those days ... u can bet he'd score 50 points, grab 30 boards, and block 20 shots.

[The Game]

yao will be way bigger in the NBA than Lebron will be. I think 5 to 10 years down the line ... Lebron will have to go thru yao to win the championship. but nobody will be able to stop yao ... i believe that he will be the greatest ever if he gets stronger and tougher .... and plays dominating defense (which he already does).

[1CenT]

I'm guessing the best Yao will ever be in the NBA is be a MVP candidate..
like averging 23 points, 14 boards, 3 blocks
i doubt he'll ever be soo selfish to avg shaq's scoring #'s...


Yao will need a great clutch scorer along with him if he wants to win a championship.. Something like Kobe Bryant for Shaq..

[Jackal]

i doubt he'll ever be soo selfish to avg shaq's scoring #'s...

If you're good, you'll demand more touches, in this case, MJ was selfish, cuz he scored alot, Wilt is selfish, he scored alot...

[Mikki]

If you're good, you'll demand more touches, in this case, MJ was selfish, cuz he scored alot, Wilt is selfish, he scored alot...

true

[PRoPuLsiOnDJ]

guys, you are forgetting that yao is 7'6"!!!! do you know how easily he can score??? ... he's not strong enough yet ... but as you have seen ... the guy can score even now ... he's 310 lbs now. just let him get stronger ... then he can control the whole game.

and referring to 1cenT's statement, "Yao will need a great clutch scorer along with him if he wants to win a championship.. Something like Kobe Bryant for Shaq.."

first of all, i want to say that i agree with you. infact, yao is also going to be a great clutch scorer. and to add to that .... i'm sure any other superstar would love the opportunity to play with yao because yao will win games. he will make the game easier for his teammates. he can score, he can pass, he can block, he can rebound, he can intimidate anyone!! and when he's double and triple teamed ... he doesnt even need to give any effort to find someone that is open .... he can just turn his head and pass the ball to the open man with eaaaase.