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Postby -BHZMAFIA- on Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:19 pm

Matthew wrote:Just becuase Memhpis couldnt beat Dallas in a game doesn't give you the right to be a hater. The finals are well and truely alive. Game 4 will be a war.



I'm not being a hater, I actually like Wade and I was impressed with his performance. I consider Dallas the better team though and that they will win the series with no doubt. Think about it, it took all that to beat Dallas in that one game when Dallas can basically blow the Heat out the water during other games. So this means the Heat have to play their hearts out every game in order for them to try and win this series literally. I think I've been right on the past 2 NBA Finals, so I'm looking to continue that streak.

I just can't believe Dirk missed that free throw, it brought back memories of Pau.
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Postby mvpshaq32 on Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:21 pm

woot!!!!!!!! miami wins 78-76
u can be sure miami will take Game 4 and tie the serires up.
Miami gained a lead and lost it. Dallas gains the 13pt lead and loses it.
Even though Miami lost the lead, they played excellenty. They drove inside, rammed the offensive boards. 54pts in the paint and 13 offensive boards. Haslem was excellent despite several missed open shots. he stole the ball and hit 1-2 free throws. posey hit a big 3 and gary payton hit a big and only shot of the game.
dwade hit a rare 3pointer, attempted 18 free throws, and grabbed key rebounds espicially when nowitzki missed his free throw.
the miami heat willl definetely play more carefully and try to keep up with devin harris.
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Postby sucram on Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:29 pm

Axel wrote:
tendodweeb wrote:Has anyone honestly, ever seen Payton nail a longrange jumper? I swear he hasn't made one all playoffs. :evil:


Would you like to change the statement now? :lol:

:lol: It would probably for the best right? :lol: I knew if i kept bugging him one day he would get it right! :roll: Great shot none the less! Poor Dirk...
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Postby Unrestrict3D on Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:30 pm

Axel wrote:
tendodweeb wrote:Has anyone honestly, ever seen Payton nail a longrange jumper? I swear he hasn't made one all playoffs. :evil:


Would you like to change the statement now? :lol:

Amazing 4th quarter comeback for the Heat. They outplayed the Mavs for 3 quarters tonight, should be something positive to build on. They had a ton of turnovers... even a high number for them and still won. If they can cut it down to 13 or so , they have a great chance of evening it up.


Pary Gayton's shot wasn't a long-range shot. ;) It was exactly what he should be taking - an old school three-pointer. Gary used to hit that shot all day but now it's no longer a three. If he'd just take one or two steps in he'd nail a lot more shots like he did there at the end to put the Heat up by two.
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Postby BIG GREEN on Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:30 pm

All this win shows is kinks in dallas' armour...but miami would have to win the next game before this can be considered a series.
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Postby mvpshaq32 on Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:39 pm

not so much dallas but miami.
with oneal turning it over and trying to keep up with devin harris.
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Postby Gedas on Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:42 pm

Well, we finnaly had an intence and very interesting game in these series. really a great game, with many turns and downs by both teams. Even if I go for Dallas in these series, you got to admit that Heat finnaly showed a performance worth of a victory. Even though this game could have gone any way. Wade performed well, even though I don't like that kind of 1 on 1 play all of the time by Miami. That's why I'm going for Dallas. Miami has 5x talent over Dallas, but 2/3 of their players are douchebag egoists, who go for stats (especially Wade). While I just love the execution by Dallas, most of the time they pass the ball for 15+ seconds to get a good look. They really play nice basketball+great defense. I go for Dallas in 5 or 6. Anyways a great game (Y)
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Postby Axel on Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:44 pm

-BHZMAFIA- wrote:Think about it, it took all that to beat Dallas in that one game when Dallas can basically blow the Heat out the water during other games


I'm thinking about it..... and I still don't think the Heat played all that great, even though they outplayed the Mavs for 3 quarters. They had 20 turnovers, and a lot of them weren't forced. Erick Dampier won't have another 6 -7 game from the field... I think the Heat have yet to play near their full potential.
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Postby Axel on Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:48 pm

Gedas wrote:That's why I'm going for Dallas. Miami has 5x talent over Dallas, but 2/3 of their players are douchebag egoists, who go for stats (especially Wade).


Oh yeah, and you arrived at that conclusion based on what? Is this the same freudian logic you used to say that Arvydas Sabonis was the greatest center, or that Machidhakdjsdakjldsa for NOK is one of the greatest 3pt shooters in the world? :roll:
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Postby NNpF on Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:52 pm

Dwyane Wade will not score 40+ points every game.

Everyone else on the Heat needs to step up because the next game is a must win.

Avery Johnson has solved Shaq, he will definitley find a way to slow down Wade the next game.

Dallas in 6.
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Postby mvpshaq32 on Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:54 pm

Gedas wrote:Well, we finnaly had an intence and very interesting game in these series. really a great game, with many turns and downs by both teams. Even if I go for Dallas in these series, you got to admit that Heat finnaly showed a performance worth of a victory. Even though this game could have gone any way. Wade performed well, even though I don't like that kind of 1 on 1 play all of the time by Miami. That's why I'm going for Dallas. Miami has 5x talent over Dallas, but 2/3 of their players are douchebag egoists, who go for stats (especially Wade). While I just love the execution by Dallas, most of the time they pass the ball for 15+ seconds to get a good look. They really play nice basketball+great defense. I go for Dallas in 5 or 6. Anyways a great game (Y)


yea seriously where did u get this crap.
dwade just wanted to pulll this team back up from the deficit. he got the boards because he could. if he wanted stats, he would have gone for assists.
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Postby Gedas on Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:24 pm

Axel wrote:
Gedas wrote:That's why I'm going for Dallas. Miami has 5x talent over Dallas, but 2/3 of their players are douchebag egoists, who go for stats (especially Wade).


Oh yeah, and you arrived at that conclusion based on what? Is this the same freudian logic you used to say that Arvydas Sabonis was the greatest center, or that Machidhakdjsdakjldsa for NOK is one of the greatest 3pt shooters in the world? :roll:


You say they don't have more talent? Look at their roster:
Wade, Shaq, Walker, Mourning, Payton, Williams (all stars), then Haslem and J. Posey.
While Dallas only have D. Nowitzky as an all star, good scorers Terry, Howard and Stackhouse, two centers with no real offensive threat, Van Horn with no D and Griffin with no offense. You look at the rosters and you see the huge differense. Miami have skills+experience, but they don't have TEAM basketball. But maybe you don't know what that is. :roll:

EDIT: wait until next season and you'll see yourself. If it wasn't for the racist coach, you would know that Macijauskas is a top-5 shooter.

And about Sabonis, he is the highest basketball IQ having center in the history of basketball. That's what I think is the most important, that's why I think he's the best. You may think that a big diesel is better, I don't care.
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Postby Gedas on Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:27 pm

mvpshaq32 wrote:
Gedas wrote:Well, we finnaly had an intence and very interesting game in these series. really a great game, with many turns and downs by both teams. Even if I go for Dallas in these series, you got to admit that Heat finnaly showed a performance worth of a victory. Even though this game could have gone any way. Wade performed well, even though I don't like that kind of 1 on 1 play all of the time by Miami. That's why I'm going for Dallas. Miami has 5x talent over Dallas, but 2/3 of their players are douchebag egoists, who go for stats (especially Wade). While I just love the execution by Dallas, most of the time they pass the ball for 15+ seconds to get a good look. They really play nice basketball+great defense. I go for Dallas in 5 or 6. Anyways a great game (Y)


yea seriously where did u get this crap.
dwade just wanted to pulll this team back up from the deficit. he got the boards because he could. if he wanted stats, he would have gone for assists.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I mostly liked this one:

if he wanted stats, he would have gone for assists.


That's real smart. You're obviously are a basketball expert. :lol:
Today he got some lucky shots, got into rythm and pulled the team. But in last to games he sunk the team with the same kind of play. These kind of teams don't win championships.[/quote]
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Postby mvpshaq32 on Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:38 pm

Gedas wrote:
mvpshaq32 wrote:
Gedas wrote:Well, we finnaly had an intence and very interesting game in these series. really a great game, with many turns and downs by both teams. Even if I go for Dallas in these series, you got to admit that Heat finnaly showed a performance worth of a victory. Even though this game could have gone any way. Wade performed well, even though I don't like that kind of 1 on 1 play all of the time by Miami. That's why I'm going for Dallas. Miami has 5x talent over Dallas, but 2/3 of their players are douchebag egoists, who go for stats (especially Wade). While I just love the execution by Dallas, most of the time they pass the ball for 15+ seconds to get a good look. They really play nice basketball+great defense. I go for Dallas in 5 or 6. Anyways a great game (Y)


yea seriously where did u get this crap.
dwade just wanted to pulll this team back up from the deficit. he got the boards because he could. if he wanted stats, he would have gone for assists.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I mostly liked this one:

if he wanted stats, he would have gone for assists.


That's real smart. You're obviously are a basketball expert. :lol:
Today he got some lucky shots, got into rythm and pulled the team. But in last to games he sunk the team with the same kind of play. These kind of teams don't win championships.
[/quote]

and u are a basketball expert??
wht u just said just proved u are wrong u tard....
and his shots are not "lucky" wade is one of many skilled players who can hit long jumpers, drive to the basket and draw a foul while making the shot. wade is not a selfish player. he can find his teamates for assists. wht u have said can be compared to jordan. he was not too big on assists but carried his team to championships anyways. so shut ur fat pie-hole
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Postby Gedas on Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:49 pm

mvpshaq32 wrote:
Gedas wrote:
mvpshaq32 wrote:
Gedas wrote:Well, we finnaly had an intence and very interesting game in these series. really a great game, with many turns and downs by both teams. Even if I go for Dallas in these series, you got to admit that Heat finnaly showed a performance worth of a victory. Even though this game could have gone any way. Wade performed well, even though I don't like that kind of 1 on 1 play all of the time by Miami. That's why I'm going for Dallas. Miami has 5x talent over Dallas, but 2/3 of their players are douchebag egoists, who go for stats (especially Wade). While I just love the execution by Dallas, most of the time they pass the ball for 15+ seconds to get a good look. They really play nice basketball+great defense. I go for Dallas in 5 or 6. Anyways a great game (Y)


yea seriously where did u get this crap.
dwade just wanted to pulll this team back up from the deficit. he got the boards because he could. if he wanted stats, he would have gone for assists.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I mostly liked this one:

if he wanted stats, he would have gone for assists.


That's real smart. You're obviously are a basketball expert. :lol:
Today he got some lucky shots, got into rythm and pulled the team. But in last to games he sunk the team with the same kind of play. These kind of teams don't win championships.


and u are a basketball expert??
wht u just said just proved u are wrong u tard....
and his shots are not "lucky" wade is one of many skilled players who can hit long jumpers, drive to the basket and draw a foul while making the shot. wade is not a selfish player. he can find his teamates for assists. wht u have said can be compared to jordan. he was not too big on assists but carried his team to championships anyways. so shut ur fat pie-hole[/quote]

Once again, I repeat. This team will NOT win any championships unless they actually play team basketball and Wade buys an IQ. You compare him to Jordan? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
He can be compared to M. James or R. Artest, but JORDAN? :lol:
The difference is, Jordan scored points and his team WON, with a much weaker roster than Wade has (besides Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc they didn't have anything). While Wade plays for his stats, for adverisment deals, that's why they will lose it in 5 or 6. You made a good point there. He CAN find his teammates for GOOD shots, but he DOESN't. That's the problem. And he ISN'T good enough of a shooter YET to shoot perimeter, but for some reason he does. Today, in 1 of 3 games, he had a decent percentage. That's called luck. in previous two games his percentage was just pathetic.
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Postby Matt on Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:59 pm

Walker is really costing Miami with his shitty play.
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Postby Unrestrict3D on Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:00 pm

Gedas wrote:You compare him to Jordan? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


There are quite a few experts who are comparing Wade to Jordan, not just him. You, my friend, are the one who is being laughed at. Get to know your stuff before you go on blasting other members with all this nonsense.

gedas wrote:Today, in 1 of 3 games, he had a decent percentage. That's called luck. in previous two games his percentage was just pathetic.


:lol: Did you miss the whole Pistons/Heat series? Dwyane doesn't get lucky. It's called talent. ;)
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Postby Andrew on Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:14 pm

Awesome finish to a game that was starting to look like a foregone conclusion up until the six minute mark of the fourth. I don't think you can fault the Mavericks too much either, the Heat just pulled off some magic there. Being someone who's more or less neutral towards both teams, that's the kind of game you want to see; one decided at the final buzzer. I hope it goes that way the rest of the series, no matter who wins.
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Postby mvpshaq32 on Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:21 pm

Gedas wrote:
mvpshaq32 wrote:
Gedas wrote:
mvpshaq32 wrote:
Gedas wrote:Well, we finnaly had an intence and very interesting game in these series. really a great game, with many turns and downs by both teams. Even if I go for Dallas in these series, you got to admit that Heat finnaly showed a performance worth of a victory. Even though this game could have gone any way. Wade performed well, even though I don't like that kind of 1 on 1 play all of the time by Miami. That's why I'm going for Dallas. Miami has 5x talent over Dallas, but 2/3 of their players are douchebag egoists, who go for stats (especially Wade). While I just love the execution by Dallas, most of the time they pass the ball for 15+ seconds to get a good look. They really play nice basketball+great defense. I go for Dallas in 5 or 6. Anyways a great game (Y)


yea seriously where did u get this crap.
dwade just wanted to pulll this team back up from the deficit. he got the boards because he could. if he wanted stats, he would have gone for assists.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I mostly liked this one:

if he wanted stats, he would have gone for assists.


That's real smart. You're obviously are a basketball expert. :lol:
Today he got some lucky shots, got into rythm and pulled the team. But in last to games he sunk the team with the same kind of play. These kind of teams don't win championships.


and u are a basketball expert??
wht u just said just proved u are wrong u tard....
and his shots are not "lucky" wade is one of many skilled players who can hit long jumpers, drive to the basket and draw a foul while making the shot. wade is not a selfish player. he can find his teamates for assists. wht u have said can be compared to jordan. he was not too big on assists but carried his team to championships anyways. so shut ur fat pie-hole


Once again, I repeat. This team will NOT win any championships unless they actually play team basketball and Wade buys an IQ. You compare him to Jordan? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
He can be compared to M. James or R. Artest, but JORDAN? :lol:
The difference is, Jordan scored points and his team WON, with a much weaker roster than Wade has (besides Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc they didn't have anything). While Wade plays for his stats, for adverisment deals, that's why they will lose it in 5 or 6. You made a good point there. He CAN find his teammates for GOOD shots, but he DOESN't. That's the problem. And he ISN'T good enough of a shooter YET to shoot perimeter, but for some reason he does. Today, in 1 of 3 games, he had a decent percentage. That's called luck. in previous two games his percentage was just pathetic.[/quote]

its not luck, its skill and talent. so get ur facts straight before u start disgracing plp. everyone has a bad day. dallas played tough D. not everyone is a perimeter shooter. u can be excellent w/o having to hit the 3's. Have u heard of a player called Kareem Abdul Jabar??? or Tim Duncan?? hmm im pretty sure u havent. and i still dont see how dwade plays for stats. The Heat are in a deep hole so he takes control. Plays like tht can win a championship. I would also like to remind everyone on Mcgrady's 13pts in 35seconds. He had no assists during tht span of time and do u remember the score??hmm i think the Rockets won. Did they not??
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Postby zmac on Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:29 pm

Really great game this was, I was really impressed with not only the Heat, but Dallas too.

I didnt even bother watching after, in the 4th qtr, I saw Wade in the corner with his hands on his knees not bothering to call for the ball. I definitely thought it was over.
Somehow they came back and Shaq was clutch and Dirk wasnt....
This could turn into one interesting series if, and only if, Miami win the next game.
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Postby Gedas on Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:30 pm

Unrestrict3D wrote:
Gedas wrote:You compare him to Jordan? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


There are quite a few experts who are comparing Wade to Jordan, not just him. You, my friend, are the one who is being laughed at. Get to know your stuff before you go on blasting other members with all this nonsense.

gedas wrote:Today, in 1 of 3 games, he had a decent percentage. That's called luck. in previous two games his percentage was just pathetic.


:lol: Did you miss the whole Pistons/Heat series? Dwyane doesn't get lucky. It's called talent. ;)


I'm not talking about those games, I'm talking about the finals, the most important games of the year, where he, except todays games, is denieing his team from a rare chance to win a championship. Today he played really well (still not as a "pass first" player should be playing), and I don't deny it. The fact is, he played exactly the same in the last two games, it's just that today he made those shots. That's the difference. A good player has to be able to adapt to the game so his team could win. He seem to not do that. He seems just to be curious about getting his stats, no matter what the result.
And about Jordan, that's worth of a good laugh. I read those articles too, but their just absurd. James is much closer to Jordan than this guy. With this kind of a team around him any NBA superstar (even allen, some other almost superstars) would reach the finals. Jordan didn't have such roster, and he not only won it, but he won it in style.
If you think he is playing as he should be, then why are the Heat trailing and why are they going to lose to a team that's normally weaker than them? He has loads of talent, but doesn't use it good enough to help his team.
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Postby Gedas on Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:33 pm

mvpshaq32 wrote:
Gedas wrote:
mvpshaq32 wrote:
Gedas wrote:
mvpshaq32 wrote:
Gedas wrote:Well, we finnaly had an intence and very interesting game in these series. really a great game, with many turns and downs by both teams. Even if I go for Dallas in these series, you got to admit that Heat finnaly showed a performance worth of a victory. Even though this game could have gone any way. Wade performed well, even though I don't like that kind of 1 on 1 play all of the time by Miami. That's why I'm going for Dallas. Miami has 5x talent over Dallas, but 2/3 of their players are douchebag egoists, who go for stats (especially Wade). While I just love the execution by Dallas, most of the time they pass the ball for 15+ seconds to get a good look. They really play nice basketball+great defense. I go for Dallas in 5 or 6. Anyways a great game (Y)


yea seriously where did u get this crap.
dwade just wanted to pulll this team back up from the deficit. he got the boards because he could. if he wanted stats, he would have gone for assists.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I mostly liked this one:

if he wanted stats, he would have gone for assists.


That's real smart. You're obviously are a basketball expert. :lol:
Today he got some lucky shots, got into rythm and pulled the team. But in last to games he sunk the team with the same kind of play. These kind of teams don't win championships.


and u are a basketball expert??
wht u just said just proved u are wrong u tard....
and his shots are not "lucky" wade is one of many skilled players who can hit long jumpers, drive to the basket and draw a foul while making the shot. wade is not a selfish player. he can find his teamates for assists. wht u have said can be compared to jordan. he was not too big on assists but carried his team to championships anyways. so shut ur fat pie-hole


Once again, I repeat. This team will NOT win any championships unless they actually play team basketball and Wade buys an IQ. You compare him to Jordan? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
He can be compared to M. James or R. Artest, but JORDAN? :lol:
The difference is, Jordan scored points and his team WON, with a much weaker roster than Wade has (besides Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc they didn't have anything). While Wade plays for his stats, for adverisment deals, that's why they will lose it in 5 or 6. You made a good point there. He CAN find his teammates for GOOD shots, but he DOESN't. That's the problem. And he ISN'T good enough of a shooter YET to shoot perimeter, but for some reason he does. Today, in 1 of 3 games, he had a decent percentage. That's called luck. in previous two games his percentage was just pathetic.


its not luck, its skill and talent. so get ur facts straight before u start disgracing plp. everyone has a bad day. dallas played tough D. not everyone is a perimeter shooter. u can be excellent w/o having to hit the 3's. Have u heard of a player called Kareem Abdul Jabar??? or Tim Duncan?? hmm im pretty sure u havent. and i still dont see how dwade plays for stats. The Heat are in a deep hole so he takes control. Plays like tht can win a championship. I would also like to remind everyone on Mcgrady's 13pts in 35seconds. He had no assists during tht span of time and do u remember the score??hmm i think the Rockets won. Did they not??[/quote]

how many rings has Mcgrady got?
How many rings does francis, Marbury, Allen, Arenas have? None. That's because, that kind of play might win games, but NOT championships. Wheter you like it or not.
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Postby Jugs on Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:57 pm

wht u just said just proved u are wrong u tard....
and his shots are not "lucky" wade is one of many skilled players who can hit long jumpers, drive to the basket and draw a foul while making the shot. wade is not a selfish player. he can find his teamates for assists. wht u have said can be compared to jordan. he was not too big on assists but carried his team to championships anyways. so shut ur fat pie-hole


wht i fink ur da most iliterat Miami fan in da world m8.

Credit to Wade for winning the game for the Mavs, Dirk simply choked.
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Postby havasufalls on Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:04 pm

Gedas wrote:
Unrestrict3D wrote:
Gedas wrote:You compare him to Jordan? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


There are quite a few experts who are comparing Wade to Jordan, not just him. You, my friend, are the one who is being laughed at. Get to know your stuff before you go on blasting other members with all this nonsense.

gedas wrote:Today, in 1 of 3 games, he had a decent percentage. That's called luck. in previous two games his percentage was just pathetic.


:lol: Did you miss the whole Pistons/Heat series? Dwyane doesn't get lucky. It's called talent. ;)


I'm not talking about those games, I'm talking about the finals, the most important games of the year, where he, except todays games, is denieing his team from a rare chance to win a championship. Today he played really well (still not as a "pass first" player should be playing), and I don't deny it. The fact is, he played exactly the same in the last two games, it's just that today he made those shots. That's the difference. A good player has to be able to adapt to the game so his team could win. He seem to not do that. He seems just to be curious about getting his stats, no matter what the result.
And about Jordan, that's worth of a good laugh. I read those articles too, but their just absurd. James is much closer to Jordan than this guy. With this kind of a team around him any NBA superstar (even allen, some other almost superstars) would reach the finals. Jordan didn't have such roster, and he not only won it, but he won it in style.
If you think he is playing as he should be, then why are the Heat trailing and why are they going to lose to a team that's normally weaker than them? He has loads of talent, but doesn't use it good enough to help his team.



Game 5 Western Conf. finals Dirk had 50pts 14/26 fg 5/6 3pointers 17/18 ft 12reb 3ast 1stl 1to

Game 3 NBA Finals Wade 42pts 14/26 fg 1/2 3pointers 13/18 ft 13reb 2ast 2stl 1to

So is it ok for dirk to play like this and not wade or is it jus ok to play like this to get the the championship but not play like this once you get there?

Oh yea and bhzmafia stop hatin on the heat i know y u dont like them
DA MAN HAS SPOKEN
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Postby sucram on Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:06 pm

Jugs wrote:
hampionships anyways. so shut ur fat pie-hole


wht i fink ur da most iliterat Miami fan in da world m8.


I feel dirty :lol:
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