2011 NBA Finals: Mavs V. Heat, part deux

[hova-]

The funny thing is how the game is tied at 90 and you can see the different mindset of both teams:

Tied at 90, Wade brings the ball up the court, a little size up dribble and then a rushed three point attempt with a hand in his face (just after LeBron had two of those in the fourth and could not hit any).
-> Rebound Dallas

Kidd brings the ball up the court. If he was D-Wade (and they are almost equal in three point shooting percentage wise), he'd do a quick dribble and shoot it.

He's J-Kidd - gives the ball to Terry - Terry is looking for that screen from Nowitzki who gets a screen from Chandler to keep Haslem away from him.

->Nowitzki is open, shoots it, three point lead Dallas.

Maybe it's because I'm a Nowe fan and a Euro guy, but this is team basketball. The Heat did not play team basketball when it counted most. Those rushed "I-want-to-be-the-hero" shots just killed them.

Another great discussion point:

Who'd you rather have on your team at the moment? Shawn Marion or Chris Bosh? Who is basically better throughout the Playoffs and who do you think is just the better overall player?

[The X]

Another great discussion point:

Who'd you rather have on your team at the moment? Shawn Marion or Chris Bosh? Who is basically better throughout the Playoffs and who do you think is just the better overall player?

I'd still want Chris Bosh, he can do more & is the better overall player. I just don't think he is right fit on Miami, that is all.

I think Marion has been more important to Mavs' success in playoffs than Bosh to Heat's success, but I'd still take Bosh.

[George7]

Shawn Marion! I just love the way he plays in the playoffs.He seems fresh,like a second youth period! He might not been that athletic as in the past(he would have never been rejected by Joel Anthony in that dunk attempt), but his energy on both ends and his mature game is a big plus for him. Bosh seems too inconsistent this year..

[Moz]

I'd go with Bosh, he's still somewhat a go-to-guy type of player whereas Marion is that of a 6th/7th man type. Matrix is a far better defense enforcer though...

Lebron and D-Wade's limelight tug o' war cost this "should've won" game for the Heat... those late rushed threes are infantile...

Heil Nowitzki!

[Oznogrd]

really mad at myself for going to bed when the heat got up big. Ah well, great comeback obviously.

Glad to see this wont be a sweep

[Cartar]

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[hova-]

I want y'all to show some love to Deshawn Stevenson by the way.

[buzzy]

Just watched the game. Godfuckingdammit. Great game if you're a basketball fan, only great 43 minutes if you're a Heat fan.

Offense in the fourth was hot garbage, completely erasing Wade's incredible game.

Damn I know how the Bulls fans must've felt after game 5 (not that the series is over, but still).

Gotta take at least two in Dallas.

Shit.

[Axel The Great]

Who'd you rather have on your team at the moment? Shawn Marion or Chris Bosh? Who is basically better throughout the Playoffs and who do you think is just the better overall player?

I'll take Marion any day over Bosh. Marion doesn't need the ball in his hands as much as Bosh to be effective on offense; he makes great backdoor cuts, has three-point range, can knock down some tough floaters, and is just as good at spotting up as Bosh. Marion's also an excellent perimeter defender, and can clean up the boards just as good if not better than Bosh.

[jenroe962002]

After The Game
Wade:No Whistle?
Referees:You're not in the paint.

[Cartar]

[rise]

Who'd you rather have on your team at the moment? Shawn Marion or Chris Bosh? Who is basically better throughout the Playoffs and who do you think is just the better overall player?

Shawn Marion is better for the Mavs team, and Bosh for Miami. Shawn Marion adds more defense, which Dallas needs more of than they need size (they have three legit 7-footers). Bosh adds size and scoring, which Miami needed more than defense (Bron, Wade, Greatness all great defenders).

If we were talking about Marion vs. Bosh a couple years ago when Marion was more athletic, than I'd obviously say go for Marion for both teams, but now it's about even.

[Jhiane]

I'm just confused. They say the Heat had a foul to give but they didn't use it

[Andrew]

I'm just confused. They say the Heat had a foul to give but they didn't use it

Are you confused by the term itself or why they didn't do it?

If it's the term you're talking about, it means they were able to commit one more foul before they'd be in the penalty and put the Mavericks at the free throw line with any subsequent fouls. Miami could have interrupted the play by intentionally fouling before a shot went up, allowing them to reset their defense while giving Dallas less time to set up their offense again after inbounding the ball.

If you're asking why they didn't use it, then that's the million dollar question right now. They screwed up.

[Jhiane]

yah.. and its commonly strategy for a basketball.. if you have a foul to give, then you should use it.. I'm just shocked..

[jenroe962002]

I'm just confused. They say the Heat had a foul to give but they didn't use it

Are you confused by the term itself or why they didn't do it?

If it's the term you're talking about, it means they were able to commit one more foul before they'd be in the penalty and put the Mavericks at the free throw line with any subsequent fouls. Miami could have interrupted the play by intentionally fouling before a shot went up, allowing them to reset their defense while giving Dallas less time to set up their offense again after inbounding the ball.

If you're asking why they didn't use it, then that's the million dollar question right now. They screwed up.

Another Question is why they didn't double nowitzki or put haslem on nowitzki?

[shadowgrin]

Nowitzki can shoot over Haslem? All the players for Dallas on the floor are decent shooters, except for Chandler who's far from the ball but still near the basket. If they double Dirk, 3 players who can shoot will be left open. If Chandler's defender leaves him, he can still receive a lob since he's near the basket.

You can see that Haslem knows that Bosh was toast and was planning to help in the double but he hesitated since he knew Chandler was in position to score. Heck, even if Dirk missed that layup Chandler would have probably grabbed the rebound.

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As for that foul to give, doesn't a foul in the last two minutes of a game automatically sends a team to the FT line even though they are not in the penalty yet? Can't remember it exactly.

[buzzy]

As for that foul to give, doesn't a foul in the last two minutes of a game automatically sends a team to the FT line even though they are not in the penalty yet? Can't remember it exactly.

If a team isn't in the penalty until the two minute mark, the next foul would get them there, regardless of the team fouls. But that one foul is still sideline out of bounds for the other team.

Not the first time they screwed it up, they had a fould to give on that Rudy Gay buzzer beater in the regular season as well, which they didn't commit.

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[Justine.]

[The X]

As for that foul to give, doesn't a foul in the last two minutes of a game automatically sends a team to the FT line even though they are not in the penalty yet? Can't remember it exactly.

It's the second foul in the last two minutes of the game that sends the other team to the FT line & puts them into the penalty.

[rise]

That pic is hilarious.

[Andrew]

As for that foul to give, doesn't a foul in the last two minutes of a game automatically sends a team to the FT line even though they are not in the penalty yet? Can't remember it exactly.

It's the second foul in the last two minutes of the game that sends the other team to the FT line & puts them into the penalty.

Assuming of course they're not already at four team fouls by that point.

[The X]

As for that foul to give, doesn't a foul in the last two minutes of a game automatically sends a team to the FT line even though they are not in the penalty yet? Can't remember it exactly.

It's the second foul in the last two minutes of the game that sends the other team to the FT line & puts them into the penalty.

Assuming of course they're not already at four team fouls by that point.

Touche, forgot to mention that

[NovU]

Mavericks are a scary team. What happened in Game 2 was no fluke. They've done that twice against OKC, coming back from behind in 4th furiously. Hoping the Heat will be able to steal 2 from next 3.