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Who will prevail as the East champ?

Poll ended at Thu May 26, 2005 7:57 pm

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Miami
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Total votes : 41

Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:25 pm

Amphatoast wrote:is it just me or does it look like mourning is on some drugs?
he comes out full of energy swatting shots like a beast and is just all over the place like he got injected with something


Well, he does have to take a lot of drugs on account of his kidneys but I doubt any of them are performance enhancing. ;) I think it's simply a matter of he hasn't played as much this year, he's probably not as fatigued or banged up as he was earlier in his career.

The same thing happened with Tim Hardaway a couple of years ago when he signed with Indiana towards the end of the regular season. His legs were fresh during the playoffs as he hadn't endured the grind of an 82 game season.

And of course, Alonzo is a warrior. He may not play much longer and he's determined to make the most of the remainder of his NBA career. Since he's no longer the focal point of the team he has the luxury of going all out as well.
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Postby Matt on Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:23 pm

If wade doesn't play then im 99% sure Detroit will win Game 6. I don't see how Miami could win without Wade who

a) is a very good defender
b) drives at the rim relentlesy
c) shoots a high %
d) sets up other guys
e) commands A LOT of attention.

w/o him they wont have anyone to create for 40+mins.

from espn.com

Suppose Dwyane Wade's rib injury prevents him from playing in Game 6 on Saturday. Here's the question: Should Stan Van Gundy sit Shaquille O'Neal, too?

Think about it. Playing in a road game in a hostile Palace against a team on the brink of elimination, Miami's odds would be considerably south of 50-50 minus Wade.

So why not let Shaq get two extra days of rest and come back to South Beach ready to rumble in Game 7?

It's clear that he's still not at full strength, as he's worn down in the second half of every game. Thus, having him expend 30 minutes in a losing effort in Game 6 would only wear him down further.

I don't expect the Heat to really do this – the media scrutiny of this strategy would become such a huge distraction that it wouldn't be worth it. But if I'm Stan Van Gundy, it's a very tempting thought.


what does everyone think of that?

Like i said, Pistons in 7...it's gonna take a lot to win this though.
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Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:32 pm

I don't agree with it. You don't want to gamble on Game 7, even if it is at home. The Heat have bought themselves that luxury but it should remain an insurance policy. I don't think laying down your arms in this situation is a good idea at all.
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Postby Jeffx on Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:35 pm

Exactly. Nothing is guaranteed in the playoffs. If you have a chance to put your opponent away, don't hold back. The Spurs had the luxury of playing game 6 at home, but they didn't risk it. They took care of business.

The only time I would lay down is if my team's getting blown out midway in the fourth quarter. Then I'd say, let's put the reserves in, and reload for game 7.
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Postby Matt on Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:25 am

i figure that's what Miami will do too.
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Postby Andrew on Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:00 am

Jeffx wrote:The only time I would lay down is if my team's getting blown out midway in the fourth quarter. Then I'd say, let's put the reserves in, and reload for game 7.


Absolutely, no point risking your key players with little chance of coming back in a Game 6 blowout. Laying down before the game is even played is just wasting an opportunity, I'd be really surprised if the Heat do that.
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Postby patrixxx73 on Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:43 am

Andrew wrote:
Jeffx wrote:The only time I would lay down is if my team's getting blown out midway in the fourth quarter. Then I'd say, let's put the reserves in, and reload for game 7.


Absolutely, no point risking your key players with little chance of coming back in a Game 6 blowout. Laying down before the game is even played is just wasting an opportunity, I'd be really surprised if the Heat do that.


... and if the Miami Heat doesn't wrap it up in game 6, (if Dwyane Wade cannot play 100%, the Miami Heat will become Miami Cold :lol: ) The Detroit Pistons may win it in game 7 (momentum & psychological advantage, afterall... they are still the defending champions, whether you guys like it or not! :wink: :twisted:
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Postby Andrew on Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:48 am

Of course. In fact the Pistons did come back from 3-2 last year. Just another reason for the Heat not to sit back and rely on home court advantage in Game 7.
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Postby Jackal_ on Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:56 pm

Miami's got it in game 6 hopefully. My post is a little biased tho... lol. Game 6 is tomorrow and Miami leads 3-2. :)) Time for Eddie Jones to step up this game and bury some 3's.
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Postby Arcane on Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:44 pm

Legend wrote:Miami's got it in game 6 hopefully. My post is a little biased tho... lol. Game 6 is tomorrow and Miami leads 3-2. :)) Time for Eddie Jones to step up this game and bury some 3's.


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Postby furious1 on Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:08 am

Wow Wade isn't playing in this game. There goes the Wade is better than Kobe stuff. No way in hell Kobe doesn't play a close out game in the conference finals
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Postby Matt on Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:56 am

DARKO DARKO DARKO!!!!!!! Hamilton has had a great game.

Game 7 is on.
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Postby Ruff Ryder on Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:14 pm

It's uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugly. :x :x :x
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Postby furious1 on Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:28 pm

Okay am I the only one that thinks Sheed should come off the bench for game seven? I would start Campbell or Dice just because it seems Sheed is so out of control that he doesn't care if his team wins or loses.
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Postby Matt on Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:36 pm

Pistons win by 25 and yet Brown manages to play Hamilton and Prince for 40mins, and Darko and Dupree only get 2 & 4 mins.....nice coaching job there. Darko should have played the netire 4th.
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Postby Jackal_ on Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:42 pm

man it IS ugly...Miami gettin killed. Mark this day, the Legend was wrong. :lol:

Bringin it back to Miami, hopefully wade gets a hip replacement or something so he can rock out.
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Postby Jackal on Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:05 pm

Well, looking forward to Game 7. Hell, if Miami is going to go to the finals this banged up & injured, I'd rather watch Detroit play San Antonio because if Miami's going to play this injured, SA will have a field day after the amount of rest they've had.

I hope the Miami players, especially Wade feels a lot better to make Game 7 memorable. :)
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Postby -BHZMAFIA- on Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:08 pm

AAAHAHAHAHHAHAHA, that game was great. Looks like Wade will definitely how to play Game 7 if they plan on winning anything.
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Postby SkipToMy_Lou on Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:41 pm

SMASHED!!!

Hopefully Wade isn't at full fitness for game 7!
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Postby Jackal_ on Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:43 pm

Bill Casby wrote:AAAHAHAHAHHAHAHA, that game was great. Looks like Wade will definitely how to play Game 7 if they plan on winning anything.


Um...right. Didn't make sense, but I guess thats how people sound when they got pudding in their mouth. :D j.k Miami Game 7 baby!
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Postby Strike Freedom on Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:56 pm

Miami without Wade had a serious negative effect. Hence, they need Wade.
Shaq + other 2 guards were the only ones with double figures...... bleh!
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Postby Arcane on Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:56 pm

fucking retarded pistons fans calling in another bomb threat before the game, fucking crazy ass thug motherfuckers. Most of you are all worried about bin ladin and shit when detroit fans are more the concern.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylc=X ... &type=lgns
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Postby Jackal on Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:58 pm

Matt, you gotta stop calling shit in man. :lol:
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Postby Arcane on Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:06 pm

i think i vented my anger out enough.

Either way thats 5 bomb threats in 2 games this year(2nd game back to detroit for the pacers receiving 4 bomb threats before the game at auburn palace) is a bit fucking much. In all honesty Stern should take stronger action against this behaviour even though there were no bombs in the end they are still guilty of posing terror threats. I could picture it now if Bush was in sterns position he'd declare war on detroit and bomb their ass.
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Postby -BHZMAFIA- on Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:12 pm

][]]RAGON wrote:i think i vented my anger out enough.

Either way thats 5 bomb threats in 2 games this year(2nd game back to detroit for the pacers receiving 4 bomb threats before the game at auburn palace) is a bit fucking much. In all honesty Stern should take stronger action against this behaviour even though there were no bombs in the end they are still guilty of posing terror threats. I could picture it now if Bush was in sterns position he'd declare war on detroit and bomb their ass.


I think he needs to bomb Eddie Jones for that 1-9 performance when his team really needed him to step up. :P
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