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Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:16 am

Just let him bury himself in NY if he wants to...
lakerskobe247 wrote:
Nash + Kobe + Stoudemire = greatest offensive force in nba history

maybe on paper, right now, but in reality i dont think so. i dont think nash and kobe would even work that well together to be honest. unless kobe is willing to stand there and let nash do what nash does and be over shadowed alot of the time,

Yeah, I'm not completely convinced that would actually work out, even though it looks amazing on paper. Even if he says he wanna win more than anything, I don't know to what extent Kobe would be willing to alter his game to achieve that...

Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:27 am

Kobe doesn't need to alter his game. Nash is good at passing. Kobe is good at shooting and dunking. Amare is good at rebounding if Kobe misses. What is there to change?

Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:33 am

Kobe doesn't need to alter his game. Nash is good at passing. Kobe is good at shooting and dunking. Amare is good at rebounding if Kobe misses. What is there to change?

...yeah, it's not NBA Live.
Things are usually not that simple and acquiring a player of that status would most certainly require any team to modify quite a few offensive strategies...

Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:45 am

I think if Kobe went to Phoenix, it would actually make it easier for him to score, and Phoenix a better team. You cant just lock on kobe anymore, you still have Nash and Amare to worry about along with other role players. Kobe doesnt have to hold the ball all the time to be effective. Nash will run the offence, Kobe will get open looks, and when the game is near the end, Kobe can take over and win games. If you havent noticed, the Suns havent really done much in the playoffs because they run out of gas, and cant finish games unless they are already in the lead by good margin. Kobe would make the suns better when games are close.

Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:40 pm

kobe will get open looks, but kobe is not a shooter, well a spot up shooter. kobe creates, he does not need a nash, he needs a steve kerr.

Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:48 pm

JT_55 wrote:Kobe doesn't need to alter his game. Nash is good at passing. Kobe is good at shooting and dunking. Amare is good at rebounding if Kobe misses. What is there to change?


Well there is that entire defense thing...you know the thing that's determined the NBA champion for the last 20 years.

Kobe going to Phoenix doesn't change that Phoenix has no team defense, despite having some decent individual defenders.

Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:57 pm

Sauru wrote:kobe will get open looks, but kobe is not a shooter, well a spot up shooter. kobe creates, he does not need a nash, he needs a steve kerr.


Nash could get Kobe the ball the same way he gets marion or amare the ball. Kobe gets the pass and can shoot or drive. Plus im sure Nash can hit a 3 pointer better then Kerr can. Also the ball doesnt always have to run through nash, which would give defences even more trouble if Kobe was creating.

Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:52 pm

Sauru wrote:kobe creates, he does not need a nash, he needs a steve kerr.


He can have both if he goes to the Suns (Kerr is the Suns' GM) ;)

-Youg Buck- wrote:Plus im sure Nash can hit a 3 pointer better then Kerr can.


I wouldn't bet on it. They're both good, but Kerr's known for his 3-ball.

Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:58 pm

Sauru wrote:kobe will get open looks, but kobe is not a shooter, well a spot up shooter. kobe creates, he does not need a nash, he needs a steve kerr.

Call me crazy, but if Kobe gets open three point shots every time, he would shoot over 50% beyond the arc. The only reason he shoots about 34-35 is because he takes a lot of bad threes. You rarely see him open and whenever he is open, I can't recall a Kobe miss from this season.
-Young Buck- wrote:Plus im sure Nash can hit a 3 pointer better then Kerr can.

Nash is more of a guy that creates shots for others and himself, Kerr is a spot up shooter which is what Kobe needs if he is doubled.

Oh and Kerr is a career 45% 3 point shooter, Nash is a 42% 3 point shooter.

Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:04 pm

lakerskobe247 wrote:Oh and Kerr is a career 45% 3 point shooter, Nash is a 42% 3 point shooter.


Damn you got me there, Nash would be no good.

Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:09 pm

Grusom, that post was on his site when he first demanded a trade, quite a while back.

Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:38 pm

-Young Buck- wrote:
lakerskobe247 wrote:Oh and Kerr is a career 45% 3 point shooter, Nash is a 42% 3 point shooter.


Damn you got me there, Nash would be no good.

lmao :lol:

I would LOVE to see Nash used as a spot-up shooter... His % would go through the roof

Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:41 pm

Shannon wrote:Grusom, that post was on his site when he first demanded a trade, quite a while back.


but it's dated June 17th.

Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:47 pm

Shannon wrote:Grusom, that post was on his site when he first demanded a trade, quite a while back.


Actually if you go to his site it says Posted June 17.

I hope Kobe is traded, the Lakers need to re-build around Bynum now before its too late.

Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:51 pm

Qballer wrote:
Shannon wrote:Grusom, that post was on his site when he first demanded a trade, quite a while back.


but it's dated June 17th.


But it does indeed look like something we've heard before :D

Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:33 pm

CMJ wrote:
Shannon wrote:Grusom, that post was on his site when he first demanded a trade, quite a while back.


Actually if you go to his site it says Posted June 17.

I hope Kobe is traded, the Lakers need to re-build around Bynum now before its too late.

Rebuild around Bynum? Since when did we see a team rebuild around a 20 year old center who averages 8/6 during the season and 4/5 for you in playoffs?

Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:36 am

CMJ wrote:
Shannon wrote:
Grusom, that post was on his site when he first demanded a trade, quite a while back.


Actually if you go to his site it says Posted June 17.

I hope Kobe is traded, the Lakers need to re-build around Bynum now before its too late.

Rebuild around Bynum? Since when did we see a team rebuild around a 20 year old center who averages 8/6 during the season and 4/5 for you in playoffs?

:lol:
Yeah, I think some peeps are already expecting wonders from Bynum because he showed some good things last year, but re-building around him, that's a bit excessive...

Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:36 am

seems alot of people either missed my point or just dont agree at all, i was saying both kobe and nash need the ball in thier hands to do what they do. neither of them is the kind of player to watch someone else then jump in when that player is ready to dish the ball.

Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:19 am

true, but Nash as an initiatior and Bryant as a finisher should work well, theoretically. You could switch it up of course and have Nash a little bit off the ball.

Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:26 am

Cloudy wrote:Rebuild around Bynum? Since when did we see a team rebuild around a 20 year old center who averages 8/6 during the season and 4/5 for you in playoffs?


Kevin Garnett. Who averaged 10/6 in 30min, Bynum averaged 8/6 in 20min.

Not saying Bynum's game resembles KG's in any way, the point is only that big men take a long time to develop (unless they spent 4 years in college like Robinson or Duncan) because the post scoring game is physical & difficult to learn.

Even if Bynum only ends up "good" vs "superstar", even "good" Centers rare and very difficult to get. Just go to realgm and ask what kind of offer would it take to pry Jefferson out of Boston, Dwight out of Orlando, or Yao from Houston. Sauru won't even trade Jefferson for Kevin Garnett.

Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:08 pm

Kevin Garnett is a power forward. :roll:

Just kidding... :wink: Yeah good point though, but with Kobe Bryant on the team right now I still think it's better to build around the current roster with Kobe as the core guy. It's not like we're in the lottery right now, just a little roster tweak I believe we can make it further into the playoffs.

FYI, the "trade me" post on Bryant's website is taken down.

Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:16 pm

If he now says that he wants to stay a Laker for life, then he'll be a such an attention-whore IMO :|

Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:34 pm

Cloudy wrote:

FYI, the "trade me" post on Bryant's website is taken down.


...and it seems Shannon was right, it was an old post that had been bumped.

Strange mistake by Kobe or the mods, or a "hidden" message that he still wants out?

I think I'll stop reading Kobe-rumors untill the start of the next season, and then just get one hell of a shock when I see a picture of him in a NY uniform or whatever.

Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:40 pm

I highly doubt Bryant is going to be traded, next week he'll say he wants to be a Laker...again. Bynum doesn't look to be anything special, but some people think he's gonna be next Kareem. Just rebuild around Kobe, cuz he'll stay as a Laker.

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:27 am

Who do you know that's trying to pass off Bynum as the next Kareem? You know strange people.

Whatever the kid becomes, he'll be better than some of the stiffs walking around the NBA passing themselves off as C's.
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