Kobe 4 straight 50 point games: 65, 50, 60, and 50

I dont think he will get it tonight bar some huge offensive explosion in the 4th. Actually, seeing as the game is tight he does have a chance but I hope he doesnt go overboard and end up shooting like 12 of 42 or something.

id he goes 12/42 all the kobe haters will unite and bash kobe and say he is a ball hog and kobe sucks, especially if they lose

Well, let's see how many 40+ games he goes for.

Not a bad night. Surprised he only played 34 minutes with no foul trouble according to nba.com and Lamar was up in the 40s. Good game by Lamar btw, 24 pts and 19 rbs was excellent. Lakers with the win so thats a positive. Kudos on keeping the 5 game win streak going.

One thing though, LA turned the ball over way too much as a team. They need to get some sticky glue and get that issue resolved.

Who would you then rank above him (SG)?

The only SG I would rank above Kobe is MJ. I simply can't think of any others that should go ahead of him.

At least he still has 5 straight 40 point games, but I see that ending next game. At least Lakers won.

i was shocked that he didnt score 50 against the warriors tonight. that is all.

you think he'll tie his 9-game 40 point streak?

I don't think he'll score 40+ against the Rockets.

I think he'll have the highlight of the night though. A nice facial on a very tall player.

He's got 9 points in 6 minutes against Memphis.

And Odom has 9 rebounds with 4 to go in the first

Unfortunately I think the Lakers will run away with this game and Kobe will sit for most of the 4th, so he won't have too much time to rack up a massive total. Maybe 40 tonight.

7 of 26 against Memphis .. lol

ouch, and they lost

yep, 7 of 26, and only 6 of 9 from the field.

23 points yes, but not a good shooting night at all. I can't believe Phil Jackson would be in favor of Kobe taking so many shots again really. The Lakers are a far better team when he is a facilitator. Sure they may have been losing, but they were just finally getting their players back. Kwame, Luke, and Lamar all had been injured, and were just getting back into the flow when Phil let Kobe go all out on the offensive end. Granted the team won, but were the dominant? No, obviously, as they barely won all of those games. Earlier in the year though, when Kobe was a more balanced player, they had one of the best league records. I've done a lot of Kobe hating here, but imo, it's best for Kobe to suck it up, take a few losses while the guys are getting back in the flow than to try to be the hero. They proved they can and will win a lot when everyone is healthy, and this recent outbreak could only have retarded their re-acclimation process.

yep, 7 of 26, and only 6 of 9 from the field.

23 points yes, but not a good shooting night at all. I can't believe Phil Jackson would be in favor of Kobe taking so many shots again really. The Lakers are a far better team when he is a facilitator. Sure they may have been losing, but they were just finally getting their players back. Kwame, Luke, and Lamar all had been injured, and were just getting back into the flow when Phil let Kobe go all out on the offensive end. Granted the team won, but were the dominant? No, obviously, as they barely won all of those games. Earlier in the year though, when Kobe was a more balanced player, they had one of the best league records. I've done a lot of Kobe hating here, but imo, it's best for Kobe to suck it up, take a few losses while the guys are getting back in the flow than to try to be the hero. They proved they can and will win a lot when everyone is healthy, and this recent outbreak could only have retarded their re-acclimation process.

.. personally .. I don't understand how giving a guy who shoots 45% from the field (and 34% from the arc) the green light to jack up 30 a game is beneficial to the team .. but that's just me.

AI had the green light his entire career in Philly and has little to show for it, although he took a team to the Championship by himself (which is what Bryant is aiming to do, I'm left to assume .. but judging from last year's post season performance and this year's regular season performance, that's not happening anytime soon)

Wel the Lakers don't really have anyone else to go to, and Kobe had played extremely well over the last games - all wins, that I guess Phil let him try it again. Only this time he was cold = Lakers lose.

If I had a player who'd scored 65, 50, 60, 50 and 43 in his last 5 games I'm not quite sure I'd be telling him to take less shots so it looks good on a stat sheet.

If I had a player who'd scored 65, 50, 60, 50 and 43 in his last 5 games I'm not quite sure I'd be telling him to take less shots so it looks good on a stat sheet.

It's not about taking fewer shots. It's about realizing that your shot is off, and it's time to try something else.

Not: "Kobe you are the god of the NBA at the moment .. shoot until your arms fall off .."

This is an example of why Steve Nash is a 2 time MVP.

It's not about taking fewer shots. It's about realizing that your shot is off, and it's time to try something else.

Right so Kobe Bryant is the only player in the NBA not allowed to shoot himself out of a slump?

Not: "Kobe you are the god of the NBA at the moment .. shoot until your arms fall off .."

This is an example of why Steve Nash is a 2 time MVP.

Steve Nash is a 2 time MVP because people are mindless drones who can't think for themselves and latch onto catchphrases like "he makes his teammates better" without any form of thought or understanding as to what they are actually saying. You think Steve Nash hasn't had bad shooting games?

Steve Nash is a 2 time MVP because people are mindless drones who can't think for themselves and latch onto catchphrases like "he makes his teammates better" without any form of thought or understanding as to what they are actually saying. You think Steve Nash hasn't had bad shooting games?

lol @ the drones part. I was under the impression that people with far more knowledge of the NBA than you and I did the voting.

I'm sure Nash has bad shooting nights .. that was my point. He can still hurt a team with 10 dimes that translate into 20+ points usually.

Hence, why he's MVP. He's a threat even when shooting poorly. One of the few in the NBA.

Not even losing Amare stopped him from taking Marion and a bunch of shooters to the Playoffs in the Western Conference.

Just remember, the only other Lakers that shot 50% in that game were Luke Walton and Ronny Turiaf (6-12, 3-6). Everyone had bad shooting nights that game for the Lakers, look at Smush (6-15), Lamar (1-7), Bynum (2-7), Cook (2-9), etc.

Luke Walton and Ronny Turiaf aren't gonna get you a win. The Lakers had to go to Kobe.

lol @ the drones part. I was under the impression that people with far more knowledge of the NBA than you and I did the voting.

You mean the media?

I'm sure Nash has bad shooting nights .. that was my point. He can still hurt a team with 10 dimes that translate into 20+ points usually.

Yeah, well the guy is averaging 4 turnovers per game aswell which could translate into 8+ points for the other team

Not even losing Amare stopped him from taking Marion and a bunch of shooters to the Playoffs in the Western Conference.

A bunch of shooters? Joe Johnson is an all-star calibre player, Quentin Richardson had a great start to this season with New York. Boris Diaw had his breakout season (please don't attribute this to Nash alone, I can't be stuffed making the points about his age/minutes etc) Tim Thomas stepped it up massively in the play-offs...

This is going way off topic. The point remains Kobe is the #1 offensive option in LA, Steve Nash isn't the #1 offensive option in Phoenix so the situations about when to shoot and when not to shoot aren't the same as Kobe is required to carry the offensive load whereas Nash's job is to create. As Shannon put it, if Kobe is off and his teammates are too who can he go to? If Nash is off it doesn't matter as much because Amare is the #1 csorer on that team, Marion and Barbosa are only a tiny bit behind Nash so he isn't the be-all and end-all of that team offensively.

You mean the media?

Yes sir .. as I said before. Much, much more knowledge of the sport than you and I.

Yeah, well the guy is averaging 4 turnovers per game aswell which could translate into 8+ points for the other team

It doesn't appear to harm his team's record very often. At least not to the degree of Bryant's comical 45% from the field on 30 shots per night.

A bunch of shooters? Joe Johnson is an all-star calibre player, Quentin Richardson had a great start to this season with New York. Boris Diaw had his breakout season (please don't attribute this to Nash alone, I can't be stuffed making the points about his age/minutes etc) Tim Thomas stepped it up massively in the play-offs...

I see .. so in other words Phoenix just had a good enough team to pull off 54 wins a year ago without their #1 scorer .. A line-up of 6th men and Shawn Marion made it happen. lol

This is going way off topic. The point remains Kobe is the #1 offensive option in LA, Steve Nash isn't the #1 offensive option in Phoenix so the situations about when to shoot and when not to shoot aren't the same as Kobe is required to carry the offensive load whereas Nash's job is to create. As Shannon put it, if Kobe is off and his teammates are too who can he go to? If Nash is off it doesn't matter as much because Amare is the #1 csorer on that team, Marion and Barbosa are only a tiny bit behind Nash so he isn't the be-all and end-all of that team offensively.

If this is the case than why with Stephon Marbury running the show pre-Nash were Marion, Stoudemire and Barbosa the laughing stock of the West?

Also, in terms of the whole team being off the mark for the evening, such things as ball movement and getting passes in position for easy scores (lay-ups, dunks) are what players like Nash excell at, and why they make everybody around them better, and much more efficient at putting the ball in the hole as a team.

This is Basketball 101.

Yes sir .. as I said before. Much, much more knowledge of the sport than you and I.

Why though? Because they write columns? Their basketball knowledge isn't what gets them jobs as journalists, and there are plenty of NBA players/officials/backroom people who DO know more about the game than any of us ever will that don't vote.

It doesn't appear to harm his team's record very often. At least not to the degree of Bryant's comical 45% from the field on 30 shots per night.

It doesn't harm his team's record because he isn't as valuable to his team. If Nash has a bad game teams still have to rely on Amare, Marion and Barbosa also falling apart.

I don't understand what's so comical about 46% shooting on 22 shots per night, Ray Allen (who I would bet my life you see as a "sharp shooter") shoots 44% on 20 spg, Steve Nash makes Raja Bell better to the extent where he's shooting 43%, Gilbert Arenas shoots 42%, Chauncey Billups does too, Chris Paul shoots 44%...

A line-up of 6th men and Shawn Marion made it happen. lol

Shawn Marion is an all-star, Steve Nash is an all-star. So essentially, your team of 6th men was two all-stars, Boris Diaw having a breakout season, Raja Bell having the best season of his entire career along with Barbosa and then Tim Thomas coming in later and playing like someone who deserves an NBA contract for a change, not to mention the damage he did in the play-offs. Sure it was impressive for them to get as far as they did without Amare but this wasn't exactly a team of scrubs.

If this is the case than why with Stephon Marbury running the show pre-Nash were Marion, Stoudemire and Barbosa the laughing stock of the West?

... Stoudemire was just a rookie, Barbosa was a foreigner who was also a rookie. Marion wasn't at the level he is now... you do realise basketball players improve over time? Especially rookies.

Also, in terms of the whole team being off the mark for the evening, such things as ball movement and getting passes in position for easy scores (lay-ups, dunks) are what players like Nash excell at, and why they make everybody around them better, and much more efficient at putting the ball in the hole as a team.

Steve Nash is a point guard ffs, it is his job to control the tempo, ball movement, pass the ball to the player in the best position to score etc... Kobe Bryant is a point scoring shooting guard, it's retarded trying to compare them like that. Nash does his job and he does it better than any other PG in the NBA apart from perhaps Jason Kidd, Kobe Bryant does his job and does it better than any other SG in NBA history apart from Michael Jordan.

Criticising Kobe for having an off shooting night is essentially the same as bagging Steve Nash for having one of those 5+ turnover games he oh so often has, only one criticism seems to happen 100% more often than the other. You can guess which one, since you are educated in Basketball 101 and such.

It doesn't harm his team's record because he isn't as valuable to his team. If Nash has a bad game teams still have to rely on Amare, Marion and Barbosa also falling apart.

lol .. here we are discussing value and bringing up Amare, who the team won 54 games without last year. And Marion, who was absolutely lost without a real PG to get him the rock once upon a time. And guys like Q-Rich, Tim Thomas and Boris Diaw who 'wow' folk with a pedestrian 13 ppg .. interesting.

Criticising Kobe for having an off shooting night is essentially the same as bagging Steve Nash for having one of those 5+ turnover games he oh so often has, only one criticism seems to happen 100% more often than the other. You can guess which one, since you are educated in Basketball 101 and such.

I'm guessing it's the team with the worse record, due to the SG that shoots too much .. because well .. that's what happens when you don't score 50-60 every night on 30 shots. You score 20 on 30 shots, and lose to teams like Memphis. Then eventually in the playoffs to talented teams.