Huge Brawl at the Garden

no melo, jr or nene but Nuggetsare winning 25-8 right now

miami-knicks fight stil the best

Can suspended players participate the All-Star weekend?

15 games = one month...Melo will be back before Feb so no problem there.

Missing key players and the Nuggets are still winning. Good to see they have put this all behind them and carried on, also this gives some PT to Kleiza, Diawara and a few others who dont see much time. Camby is dominating atm.

@ Indy: You want to know how a fan is less dangerous?! Um, because the normal fan more than likely cannot hurt a professional athlete the size of Jermaine O'Neal. Come on, that's like saying Chuck Lidell would be in danger if Brian Boitano approached him and called him out. Also, the fan who came on the court that day was a 5 foot 10 inch fatass - and he didn't even try to throw a punch at JON. He did not do anything to even signal that he was planning on hitting any of the players - he simply came onto the court, fell down, and while getting up, O'Neal blasted him one right in the face. Yeah he was definitely wrong to be on the court, but dude... Jermaine's actions were WAY worse than Carmelo's. I guarantee that 99% of the world would agree with that as well - the other 1% being biased Pacer fans. Sorry.

The fact of the matter is, 'Melo punched a fellow player in the face, JON punched a fan in the face. 15 games is pretty adequate punishment in this situation.

The old Knicks are back?
Little Nate got alot of heart to go out and try to beat on everyone
for his team. That Melo punch wasn't a "G" move cuz he ran like
a little b%#$@, why would u through a punch and run? If JJefferies
wouldve got him, Melo wouldve been on the Injured list for a month lol.

I like Melo but after that i fell like changin my Melo Jersey for a Nate Robinson one.

that's pretty pathetic by the Wizards losing 117 -108 to us Nuggz without Nene, Melo and JR.
Boykins 29 points 7 boards (2 Offensive) and 6 assists. Camby and Miller also stepped up, Camby with 25 points and 17 boards and 7 blocks and 5 assits, Miller with 27 points 5 assists and 9 boards. Diawara, Najera and Kleiza with 8, 8 and 10 points respectively.
WOW

The old Knicks are back?
Little Nate got alot of heart to go out and try to beat on everyone
for his team. That Melo punch wasn't a "G" move cuz he ran like
a little b%#$@, why would u through a punch and run? If JJefferies
wouldve got him, Melo wouldve been on the Injured list for a month lol.

I like Melo but after that i fell like changin my Melo Jersey for a Nate Robinson one.

Nate Robinson trying to beat on everyone isn't having heart, it's being mentally unstable and trying to act tough. I only wished Melo connected one more punch right in that little bugger's face to set him up straight.

a "G" move? Maybe it's because he had some common sense and didn't want to get mowed down by half the Knicks team and realized what he did was stupid at the last second. Not that I think what Melo did was any less retarded.

I'm also sure that a twig like Jefferies would have completely taken out Carmelo...

I like Melo but after that i fell like changin my Melo Jersey for a Nate Robinson one.

Nate Robinson trying to beat on everyone isn't having heart, it's being mentally unstable and trying to act tough.

I agree. After I saw Robinson go up to half court and scare Carmello away by putting up his "G" moves, first thing I thought of was this. Not cool.

ermaine O'Neal delivering a knockout punch, which is widely regarded as the greatest single punch in the history of the NBA, not on a player, but on a fan.

By who? And, do you mean "greatest punch on a fan"? Because there's been pretty much close to zero of those during a game.

If you mean any punch during an NBA game ever, then I think Rudy T would have a bone (or a couple...) to pick with you...and these other people who are widely regarding it such.

the Knicks can't play basketball, so they started the whole thing. Now I would get very pissed if a midget would start picking a fight..Come on you only won the fucking dunk contest because you are so small bitch. You ain't no Spud Webb

Benji I think you missed this part of Cy's statement that you quoted

not on a player, but on a fan.

By who? And, do you mean "greatest punch on a fan"? Because there's been pretty much close to zero of those during a game.

I was actually exaggerating, but that was still one hell of a punch

@ Indy: You want to know how a fan is less dangerous?! Um, because the normal fan more than likely cannot hurt a professional athlete the size of Jermaine O'Neal. Come on, that's like saying Chuck Lidell would be in danger if Brian Boitano approached him and called him out. Also, the fan who came on the court that day was a 5 foot 10 inch fatass - and he didn't even try to throw a punch at JON. He did not do anything to even signal that he was planning on hitting any of the players - he simply came onto the court, fell down, and while getting up, O'Neal blasted him one right in the face. Yeah he was definitely wrong to be on the court, but dude... Jermaine's actions were WAY worse than Carmelo's. I guarantee that 99% of the world would agree with that as well - the other 1% being biased Pacer fans. Sorry.

No, you are so incredibly wrong, its unbelievable. I can't even believe someone would think that way. First of all, security before games is not tight. They have you spread your jacket, and maybe they feel one pocket. Usually they don't even touch you, or even use the metal detectors that are in their hands. A fan could very easily be carrying a weapon, and after all that had happened already, you have to take that fan out. You can't let him continue to roam around the floor, are you fucking stupid? True, it would be better to let the security handle it, but they were nowhere to be found. That guy had to get taken down, and Jermaine noticed him. I guarantee that 99% of the world would act the same way in that situation. How could you see a fan jump on to the court during a very ugly brawl where fans proved to be out to hurt the players and not do anything to him.

Amazing that people actually argue that a player can be more dangerous then a fan. That's unbelievable to me.

i cant believe people are saying there is a double standard going on here. this problem was contained to the court and involved only players, i see nothing wrong with the punishment handed out to all the players.

well, I thought the penalties would be more harsh considering that the fight spilled into the laps of the rich people in the front row.

Yeah it wasnt a sucker punch, it just looked worse because Collins didnt protect himself which i dont understand why.

Collins wasn't exactly given a lot of time to react , Melo, had just turned the corner on the crowd of players that was to Collins' right. Right when Melo turned appeared, he immediately swung. By the time Mardy saw him, he was already in the start of the action of punching Collins.

Amazing that people actually argue that a player can be more dangerous then a fan. That's unbelievable to me.

You're making it sound like every single fan carries a weapon. Assuming a fan doesn't have a weapon, then who's more dangerous: a 5'8" overweight accountant vs. a 6'11" muscular athlete?

You're making it sound like every single fan carries a weapon. Assuming a fan doesn't have a weapon, then who's more dangerous: a 5'8" overweight accountant vs. a 6'11" muscular athlete?

Here's a better way of putting it. The 5'8 accountant who you don't know, who just went on to the floor in a situation where the fans where attacking the players (and vice versa) who could easily have something concealed, or the 6'11" athlete who you know, who's hand you shook before the game, who plays in this league for a lot of money and definitley isn't carrying a weapon.

I'm much more afraid of the accountant and any person with any sort of brains would be too.

Yeah it wasnt a sucker punch, it just looked worse because Collins didnt protect himself which i dont understand why.

Collins wasn't exactly given a lot of time to react , Melo, had just turned the corner on the crowd of players that was to Collins' right. Right when Melo turned appeared, he immediately swung. By the time Mardy saw him, he was already in the start of the action of punching Collins.

Haha, trying to sugarcoat the punch. We see right through your bias.

Ok, stop talking about the punch. That's what sticks in our minds but I want you guys to watch the fight one more time and watch Carmelo Anthony the whole way through. This is what I picked up:

That picture was Jeffries first of all and that happened right after the foul was committed and Melo came over to try to back up Smith. Jeffries and Frye both came over to pull Carmelo away because contrary to popular (and biased) belief, not everybody on the court wanted to fight. Watch it again. Carmelo was being pulled away by both of em and then they let go as Najera pulled Jeffries away from Melo. Right at that time Nate reaches to swing at JR Smith. Then when Melo was free he shoves Nate as David Lee tries to restrain JR Smith. Right then with a little shove from Jeffries Melo dips outta the scene and that's when JR Smith comes after Nate and Nate tackles him into the front row. Both Frye and Jeffries go to try to pull Nate off of JR and break up the fight. Melo comes back in with David Lee and they both try to pull Frye away from Nate which is innocent in my book. Now pay attention again to Melo. He succeeds in pulling Frye away and Frye goes flying to the floor on his butt. Then Melo steps over top of him and says something to him (kinda like when in football the DB makes a big hit and stands over top of the receiver to talk trash) which makes me question his motive. It looks like he's trying to start something. George Karl half-heartedly tries to pull Melo away who turns around and goes right back to the action and shoves Jared Jeffries. He's separated by some coaches because I dunno what's gotten into him and he's in a corner with 3 Knicks players. As he's pulled away he breaks off and goes and smashes Mardy in the face.

The main part of the fight was over between JR Smith and Nate when Melo came flying in with a right hook on Mardy Collins who had only committed the foul and nothing less unless words were exchanged. Melo then takes off as Jeffries plows over Marcus Camby to get to Melo. Nate then steps up and flexes at Melo and then I don't see Melo for the rest of the video. He eventually comes back and talks with Isiah...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6340183342668645660

WATCH IT AGAIN AND WATCH CARMELO ANTHONY from beginning to end. He's just as guilty as Nate Robinson is if not more.

Nate Rob the hardcore gangster wannabe and slam dunk champ robber. What a resume!

Steve Francis is a idiot for making the ridiculous comment about race (he said more black people being in the NBA compared to other professional sports league like MLB and NHL where fights occur) being a factor in the length of suspensions handed down by the NBA. The point is Steve why should the NBA hand out lengthier suspensions for fighting compared to the MLB and more so the NHL where lighter punishments are handed out for fighting which is far worse.

You and Nate have been smoking rocks...

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Steve Francis is a idiot for making the ridiculous comment about race (more black people being in the NBA compared to other professional sports league like MLB and NHL where fights occur) being a factor in the length of suspensions handed down by the NBA.

He's an idiot. The NBA is an entirely different league, and everybody knows how Stern is strict when it comes to looking professional and maintaining a strong reputation. It has nothing to do with race.