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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:12 am

OMFG. My height, but almost twice my weight. What kind of supplements do these people eat ? Babies?


You should visit an NFL training camp once... It's like life in hell could be...

Check this guy out:

http://www.nflplayers.com/players_netwo ... s&ID=30096

and click on 'digital card'to see his size... :lol:
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Postby Fenix on Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:16 am

:shock:. Now imagine a Shaq (6'11 1/2'') with this kind of bulk and fat. He could easily be pushing 500 pounds.

… earned the nickname “Big” after sprouting to 6–0, 205 pounds as a fifth-grader and 6–4, 300 pounds as a seventh-grader … has weighed at least 370 pounds (!!!) since high school … brothers Donald (1976–77) and Lynn (1975–77) also played football at Texas Christian … born Sept. 5, 1978 in Wortham.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:40 am

hehe, that's why I love the NFL... these men are way past the term 'normal'... just imagine 9 guys of that size banging against each other at the line of scrimmage... That's why football has become America's new National Passtime... :lol:



EDIT: Back on topic, another article on Andrew, this time by SI:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/b ... index.html
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Postby The X on Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:51 pm

D-Weaver 99027 wrote:
I remember that Greek lard arse scoring on him at will at Athens....


Greek with a large butt? In the National Team? Who? :?:

he wasn't actually a lardarse, he was quite good....he was the greek team's starting center....larzaridius or something, I can't remember....he used his wide body to score on Bogut at will....he was only like 6'9" or 6'10" or something
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Postby J@3 on Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:35 pm

Here's an article from Yahoo...

Top pick Bogut adjusting to NBA life

By JON KRAWCZYNSKI, AP Sports Writer
July 19, 2005
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- Andrew Bogut felt like he had just been run over by a truck.

David Harrison, the 280-pound Indiana Pacers center, lowered his shoulder and buried the NBA's No. 1 draft pick, then softly laid in a bucket.

Welcome to the NBA, Mr. Bogut.

``He was grinding me out down there,'' Bogut said. ``Definitely a guy I can learn off. He definitely took me to school.''

The Milwaukee Bucks center was ejected from that game Monday at the Minnesota summer league for tussling with center John Edwards. But he bounced back on Tuesday, capping the five-day event with 16 points, 14 rebounds and two blocks in a 98-91 loss to New York.

It was an interesting few days for the Australian in his NBA debut. One day, he scores 21 points and grabs 13 rebounds in a game against the Rockets. The next, he is thoroughly dominated by Harrison before being thrown out by the officials.

It's all part of the process, Bogut says.

``It was more of a learning experience than anything,'' he said. ``I didn't come in and say I want to average 20 and 10. I wasn't worried about numbers.''

In five games, Bogut averaged 13.2 points and 10 rebounds, numbers that were slightly skewed thanks to a surprisingly quick trigger by the officials in the Indiana game. He finished with just 6 points on 1-of-7 shooting in 26 minutes in that game.

He still managed to lead the summer league in rebounds and learned what life in the NBA is like as a 7-foot-1, 255-pound target.

``Definitely,'' Bogut said. ``That's how it is. A big white guy, the No. 1 pick, nobody likes that.''

Many of the rookies and unproven veteran centers at the league saw Bogut as a way to get noticed, perhaps none more than Harrison.

The second-year player went right at Bogut early and often in their matchup, hitting turnaround jumpers and dunking over the exasperated rookie.

``He's not a (traditional center),'' the bruising Harrison said. ``He's a typical triangle-type center. I just knew that if I got him on my back, I was stronger than him.''

Harrison proved that on numerous occasions in the first half of their game, scoring 14 points to Bogut's 5 and getting him to commit four fouls.

His frustration growing, Bogut was ejected in the third quarter after getting tangled with Edwards, who appeared to shove him to the ground under the basket. Bogut bounced off the court and went after Edwards and the two players had to be separated.

It was a questionable decision by the officials to eject both players, but Bogut took everything in stride.

``I needed the rest anyway,'' he said, cracking a grin.

Milwaukee assistant Bob Ociepka saw the skirmish as a good sign.

``He gets knocked down, gets right back up and is not going to take anything from anybody,'' Ociepka said. ``In this league, as a rookie, you're going to be tested and he showed his toughness to come right back at somebody. That was encouraging.''

Harrison acknowledged that he was looking forward to facing Bogut, the one big-name center in Minneapolis, and he couldn't hide the grin on his face when asked about his performance against the top pick.

``I just wanted to dunk it as hard as I possibly could,'' Harrison said.

That said, he has no doubt that Bogut will be just fine in the NBA.

``He just doesn't know any better. He'll get better with time. Everybody does,'' Harrison said. ``He's a good passer and he has really good body movement.''

Ociepka said he can't wait to see what Bogut can do with the likes of Michael Redd, Bobby Simmons and Jiri Welsch on the perimeter to draw attention away from the big man.

``He has a good understanding of the game and that, combined with his talent, is real encouraging,'' Ociepka said. ``This is a heckuva start for him. We're really excited about it.''

For now, it's back to Australia for Bogut, who said he plans to concentrate on improving his jumper and adding some weight so he can bang with the likes of Shaquille O'Neal and Yao Ming under the basket.

And with the Bucks sinking serious money into Redd, Simmons and Welsch this offseason, Bogut sees good things happening in Milwaukee, and soon.

``They want to win,'' Bogut said. ``It's a good situation to be in. I like the direction we're going.''


Good to see him say he wants to add some weight, and gives props to Harrison too (Y)

16 points 5-10 FGs 6-9 FTs
14 rebounds (5 offensive, 9 defensive)
2 blocked shots
0 steals
3 assists
0 Turnovers
34 minutes

Those are Bogut's numbers from his last game. Before anyone brings up Channing Frye's 20 point/5 rebound effort, Frye was playing power forward. Bogut was guarding Sundov (6 points) and Butler (4 points) so he finally had a decent game on D aswell.
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Postby matmat8 on Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:05 pm

It's not like you have to be a good defender to face Sundov or Butler...
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Postby J@3 on Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:17 pm

matmat8 wrote:It's not like you have to be a good defender to face Sundov or Butler...


It's not about being a good defender :roll: it's about not having them score all over you. Which is what's been happening to Bogut with guys like Baldiane.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:42 pm

Here's an article from Yahoo...


hehe :lol: , that's the same article I posted... :lol:


he wasn't actually a lardarse, he was quite good....he was the greek team's starting center....larzaridius or something,



lazaros Papadopoulos, most likely. Now that I think of it, he IS a bit of a lardarse... :lol:
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Postby J@3 on Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:52 pm

Well Bogut Watch is back on... he had his first game today for Milwaukee in the pre-season against a KG-less Minnesota.

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9 points, 9 boards... 5 offensive. Seems a little bit tentative only taking 8 shots, but I'm sure that will change. The real acid test is the next game against Detroit, that'll give him an idea of what to expect. Assuming Wallacex2 and co play.
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Postby Jugs on Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:20 pm

garh, what happened to 50/20/5/10/1 :|
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Postby Fenix on Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:42 am

Jugs wrote:garh, what happened to 50/20/5/10/1 :|

That's Darko's numbers :lol:.
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Postby Riot on Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:07 am

Bogut got outplayed by Michael Olowokandi
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Postby Fenix on Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:13 am

Riot wrote:Bogut got outplayed by Michael Olowokandi

But then again, Kandi is an athletic freak. And of course, in his contract year :lol:.
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Postby Rip32 on Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:34 am

Tonight hes gonna get eaten alive by Ben, Sheed an Darko. :mrgreen: :shhh:
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Postby J@3 on Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:50 pm

I think he did. 3 points, 6 rebounds 0-4 shooting. Awell, it's only pre-season. Tim Duncan shot 2-8 :mrgreen:
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Postby Laxation on Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:35 pm

i think he did ok, considering his opponents... (go pistons)

for a second game in the nba, playing against one of the best front-courts, and the best defence, its not too bad
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Postby j.23 on Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:27 pm

buttfucked by big ben, gotta love it. wooo
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Postby Laxation on Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:34 pm

j.23 wrote:buttfucked by big ben, gotta love it. wooo


lmfao - not quite the wording i was thinking of - but yeh...
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Postby Matt on Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:53 pm

lol, it was Darko i swear....Darko pwns

(watches as Darko bandwagon soon will grow)
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Postby j.23 on Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:15 pm

darko has been doing pretty good defensively. i knew he was a good offensive player but i didn't know he was a good shotblocker. kinda eager to see how he does this season, i'm sure he'll be fine though. the dude doesn't look skinny anymore
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Postby Laxation on Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:01 am

Matt wrote:lol, it was Darko i swear....Darko pwns

(watches as Darko bandwagon soon will grow)


ive been on the darko bandwagon since his rating went to 90 in my 2005 dynasty :P GO DARKO!!!
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Postby Rip32 on Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:19 am

Matt wrote:lol, it was Darko i swear....Darko pwns

(watches as Darko bandwagon soon will grow)


Shit ive been driving that bus for 2 and a half years... :lol:
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Postby The Other Kevin on Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:30 am

VanK wrote:
Jugs wrote:garh, what happened to 50/20/5/10/1 :|

That's Darko's numbers :lol:.




No, those were Yinka's.
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Postby Matt on Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:15 am

Shit ive been driving that bus for 2 and a half years...


me too. i have faith in joe dumars selection
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Postby J@3 on Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:42 am

Is this a Darko thread or a Bogut thread :evil: before anyone points out that Darko's playing better than Bogut... Darko's had 3 years of mass busting to prepare for this, Bogut's had 2 games.
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