Yi's Chinese Team To Block Yi From Bucks

[The X]

Youre missing the point, junior. The spurs slept through the entire regular season. The bucks arent even considered a blip on their radar. And even in that state, the bucks wouldve had to play pretty well to win. The spurs at 100 percent are outsight scary. Youd be best to recognize that and respect it. we can go player for player if you wish. It wouldnt be very pretty.

Spurs at 100% are behind two teams in the league....Suns when they're 100% (which they weren't for in series against Spurs) & possibly the Mavs when they're at 100% (which they weren't in playoffs)....

[Sauru]

i think the spurs are clearly above the mavs. the mavs have major weaknesses while the spurs pretty much have all bases covered. i would also rate the spurs above the suns as the suns are just run run run and when the tank runs low they dont have what it takes to get through.

[Anthony15]

Youre missing the point, junior. The spurs slept through the entire regular season. The bucks arent even considered a blip on their radar. And even in that state, the bucks wouldve had to play pretty well to win. The spurs at 100 percent are outsight scary. Youd be best to recognize that and respect it. we can go player for player if you wish. It wouldnt be very pretty.

Spurs at 100% are behind two teams in the league....Suns when they're 100% (which they weren't for in series against Spurs) & possibly the Mavs when they're at 100% (which they weren't in playoffs)....

Nah, Spurs are 2nd, they beat Suns fair and square, how weren't the Suns 100%, Amare and Diaw missed one game, but that wouldn't have changed the outcome. Dallas is probably the team they wouldn't have beaten, if the Warriors didn't take them out.

[maceo24]

Id still give best overall to the Spurs, strictly on poise and experience. Bottom line is they get it done, while we debate about why the "better" teams keep getting knocked out, lol.

[Andrew]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/47248/20070720/yi_confirms_trade_request/

Yi Confirmed that he wants to be traded, because he feels that he's gonna be a back up(well no shit, you're a roookie, whos gonna let you start if there is a proven guy starting), and there are too few chinese people living in Milwaukee.

Whether or not Yi wants to be traded or whether Chinese officials are pulling the strings is starting to matter less and less, in my opinion. This is about the last thing you want to see from a rookie no matter whose words are coming out of his mouth and frankly, it's a big hassle for a player who is as yet unproven in the NBA and turned in a so-so performance during the summer league.

[-Young Buck-]

bobby simmons was overrated in LA. Boykins and Villanueva are duly noted. They beat the champs, twice. Amazing, I'll send them a cake just as soon as I can get to it. But this is also a team that went...

0-4 against Chicago,
0-4 against Cleveland
1-3 against Detroit
0-2 against Phoenix
0-2 against Dallas
0-2 against Utah
0-2 against Denver

And yes these are better teams in the league, but even more disturbing about this "Contender" of yours are these...

10-31 on the road. Yipes. But you didnt even have a winning Home Record either, 18-23.

0-4 against Indiana
1-3 against Toronto
1-3 against New York
1-3 against Orlando

Now all of those teams on the upper half, have wining road records, which is the sign of a good team. The bottom ones, Toronto is decent but the rest.... Come on, man. But I supposed simmons, boykins, and Charlie V were absent for those games too?

Maybe my standards of what should be on nationally televised are different then yours, but 28-54 just aint cutting it for me. Dont hype up two anomalies like they are supposed to mean something when taking what I've just shown you into account.

First of all..."junior"...this isnt about if the bucks are better then the spurs, anyone would be stupid to make claim that the bucks are better. But you made a comment that you wouldnt want to watch the bucks on national tv because the spurs would slaughter them, when in fact the bucks beat them twice last season..not a good game to watch? I think it was, both times. Doesnt matter if the spurs showed up or not, they still lost. no excuses. Im not asking the league to put the bucks on national tv because they are a good team, you are right, they didnt do well last year. However i did say stern could put them on more if it would make the chinese people happy about Yi's exposure. This has nothing to do with the bucks, but all about Yi. So you really got off track with my comments. But i do appreciate the excuses you gave for the spurs losing....quite amusing.

[maceo24]

My point about the spurs was supposed to be taken as a joke. It was a random team i selected of of the teams that are regularly televised. I could have made the same point about the mavs, or the bulls, or any other team that now recieves regulary national tv time. However my original point about the bucks not being good enough, even with Yi, to earn the time to be shown as much as the "better" teams in the NBA still stands and was validated by what I presented. Especially based on the recent events surrounding his drafting. I wouldnt be surprised if we never heard from Yi again. You were the person who got defensive about my statement. You went out of your way to tell me that the spurs lost to the bucks twice last year, as if that one fact alone would justify them getting 5 spots on tnt next year. the reasons I "gave" for the spurs losing was purely conjecture. I dont know, or particularly care what happened during those games. You couldve left the comment as what it was, a simple jab at Yi being a little undersized for the position he'll be playing when/if he ever gets here, and another jab at the bucks being, well, the bucks. But instead, the desire to defend the honor of the team you apparently love so much inspired to you say something as irrelevant as

You make a good point, wait whats this.???? Milwaukee was 2-0 vs san antonio last year. Oh ...turns out it wasnt such a good point.

Given the records against the other teams I posted, who cares if they beat the spurs 5 times this year? It wasnt to be taken as seriously as you have taken it. But I'll be damned if I'll put up with someone named young buck pointing his e-cock at me and getting sarcastic without knowledge of the grounds on which i was standing.

[-Young Buck-]

my username young buck has nothing to do with the rapper, i didnt even know there was a rapper of that name till after i picked that name. I picked it based on the fact that bogut is a young buck. which is pretty funny story.

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I'm amazed how almost everyone missed Anthony15's post with a link to the Yi story.

As Q said, the Chinese could be making him say this, but I don't know. If it was straight from Yi, with no pressure to say anything false, it's time for people to stop making Yi out as a victim. The kid, his countries goverment, Fegan have done enough damage. I say if it's true, send Yi's ass back to the CBA to collect his playing time and keep him from ever returning to the NBA.

[-Young Buck-]

But then again i read this on ESPN.

The owner of Yi Jianlian's Chinese basketball team now says he was misquoted by the Beijing News when he was reported as saying Yi would "definitely not" play for the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks, according to PA Sportswire.

According to a transcript of his conference call with Chinese media earlier this week, Chen, the owner of the Guangdong Tigers, "specifically ruled out the possibility of Yi playing in the Chinese league next year," PA Sportswire reported.

However, Chen did say that the team "was trying to help [Yi] obtain a trade" from the Bucks, who drafted him in the first round.

In earlier reports, Chen was quoted as saying a lack of playing time was the primary reason Yi would not play for the Bucks. He said the Tigers were hoping to find a team that would be suiutable for Yi's growth as a player, with an eye toward developing him for the 2008 Olympics in Beijing.

But later reports quoted Guangdong vice chairman Liu Hong Xinjiang as saying Yi eventually could play for the Bucks.

They could be covering their tracks, but who knows. I dont know what to think, one minute i can see him eventually playing, and then another minute i just want to trade him away.

[maceo24]

my username young buck has nothing to do with the rapper, i didnt even know there was a rapper of that name till after i picked that name. I picked it based on the fact that bogut is a young buck. which is pretty funny story.

To be honest, I think that's the main reason it irritated me. I HATE G-Unit. Meh, no harm, no foul. Truce?
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In response to the that report, I think theyre just sprinkling carpet freshener on dog sh*t. It still stinks, IMO. If i were the bucks, I'd refuse to work out a deal, and make him sit a year, just to be vindictive. Theres a heartbroken kid out there that was good enough to make the league who is doing nothing and this douche and/or his douche handlers are complaining about playing time.

[Andrew]

I'm amazed how almost everyone missed Anthony15's post with a link to the Yi story.

As Q said, the Chinese could be making him say this, but I don't know. If it was straight from Yi, with no pressure to say anything false, it's time for people to stop making Yi out as a victim. The kid, his countries goverment, Fegan have done enough damage. I say if it's true, send Yi's ass back to the CBA to collect his playing time and keep him from ever returning to the NBA.

I think it's at that point now. If Yi's words aren't his own then one can sympathise with him but the whole situation, which has been so poorly and disgracefully handled by Yi's camp, is a bigger headache than any team should have to put up with from a rookie especially one whose summer league performance received such mixed reviews. Fingers can be pointed at everyone from Chinese officials to his handlers to Dan Fegan to Yi himself but I think the most important thing right now is getting the whole ugly business sorted out one way or another.

In response to the that report, I think theyre just sprinkling carpet freshener on dog sh*t. It still stinks, IMO. If i were the bucks, I'd refuse to work out a deal, and make him sit a year, just to be vindictive. Theres a heartbroken kid out there that was good enough to make the league who is doing nothing and this douche and/or his douche handlers are complaining about playing time.

Hear, hear. Whenever situations like this arise - and I'd include incidents like Francis' trade demands and Glenn Robinson holding out for huge deal from the Bucks after being drafted in 1994 - you can't help but think of players like John Starks and Mario Elie, players who were never stars but had to work so hard to make in the league, going undrafted (or in Elie's case being a seventh round selection), playing on 10 day contracts and in minor leagues or overseas before finding a place in the NBA.

Much better stories than a player whose first impact in the league is a dispute over playing for the team that selected him with a lottery pick.

[-Young Buck-]

Here is a good article on the Yi situation.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=636138

Seems likes its the guy who owns the tigers that is the real key, according to this writer. He just wants money. But the bucks seem to be sitting in a good position. The longer Yi holds out the more chinese people are going to be mad at those people involved in keeping Yi from joining the bucks. But i think Harris should go to china and do the things the writer said, it would make it that much better. Im glad Harris isnt going back at anyone, he is just sitting back and waiting for Yi to come and play. He is going to have to, unless Yi doesnt want to play in the NBA. Seems like China is backed into a corner, and will have to let him play for the Bucks or not play in the nba at all.

[Andrew]

I guess if the Bucks want Yi then that's the kind of thing they'll have to do but that's an awful lot of red tape and jumping through hoops. One would hope if they go through all that trouble Yi will turn out to be worth it.

[Jing]

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=85557

BEIJING (AFP) - Basketball star Yi Jianlin will likely play for the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks, Chinese state media reported Monday, contradicting reports last week that the move had been ruled out.

Officials with the Guangdong Tigers, Yi's Chinese team, said the earlier reports were wrong, the Beijing Daily Messenger said.

"Yi will play for the Bucks after all," it quoted the team's vice general manager Liu Hongjiang as saying, giving no reason for the apparent turnaround.

Yi's camp made it clear before the June 28 NBA draft that they did not want the seven-foot (2.12-metre) power forward to play for Milwaukee, one of the NBA's smallest markets and a city with a tiny Asian population.

Worried that his development might be stifled there, Yi's handlers would not even allow him team officials see him train before the draft, but the Bucks selected him with the No 6 pick anyway.

Last week, Guangdong Tigers owner Chen Haitao was quoted by state media as saying the team would block Yi's move to Milwaukee and that he "definitely" would not play there.

But Chen said that report was wrong and that Yi would not return to play in the Chinese Basketball Association, according to the Daily Messenger. It said Guangdong Tigers officials offered no further details.

The Bucks have offered assurances that Yi's development would not be stifled and various media reports have said team officials plan to visit China soon to woo the 19-year-old.

Yi is considered a key part of the national team that China hopes will perform well at next year's Beijing Olympics, and Chinese officials are said to be keen to maximise his development beforehand.

[-Young Buck-]

Thats good news to hear. Adding him to Bogut and Villa will give us 3 good big men. Add those three to Mason, Simmons, Redd, and Mo, wow, we do look good on paper. Hopefully Larry Ks system works well with our players.

[Andrew]

Best news so far. Hopefully the saga is coming to an end.

[Ty-Land]

I'm waiting for an official announcement before I get my hopes up. But hopefully this is a positive turning point in the whole situation.

[Anthony15]

Finally some good news from this whole incident. Glad Bucks hanged on to him and didn't throw him away to any team like Warriors, he's a player and should help them out in any way he can.

[maceo24]

*grammar nazi* Its HUNG!!!* *grammar nazi*:twisted:

I guess if the Bucks want Yi then that's the kind of thing they'll have to do but that's an awful lot of red tape and jumping through hoops. One would hope if they go through all that trouble Yi will turn out to be worth it.

My sentiments EXACTLY. God help him if he isnt on the short list for ROY. If i was a bucks fan I'd be expecting nothing less the the second coming of christ for all the drama theyve caused.