Wolves vs Spurs?

[Riot]

SO wait, Duncan is better than KG because he had to play all summer long? Duncan's stats stayed almost the same (22.3ppg,12.4rpg compared to the year before 22.3ppg,12.8rpg)

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I dont think the offeason is such a big issue, because both KG and Duncan would be busy with basketball anyway, but Duncan got a slight atvantage by playing and learning to play against international team and the better zone defense.

Anyway, to me Duncan is better. More smooth, more dominant.

[Jackal]

SO wait, Duncan is better than KG because he had to play all summer long? Duncan's stats stayed almost the same (22.3ppg,12.4rpg compared to the year before 22.3ppg,12.8rpg)

Are you a moron? Inept? Can you not read?

If you can understand/comprehend english, you would see I said:

A reason his effeciency rating is below KG's this season is because KG was more rested than Duncan was. Did you totally ignore my last post? You said KG was more effecient, I said that could be because he didn't have to play qualifying games against other teams. KG was resting. This could be a reason as to why he was more effecient this season, correct? Don't mangle my words into your weird mumblings.

I dont think the offeason is such a big issue, because both KG and Duncan would be busy with basketball anyway, but Duncan got a slight atvantage by playing and learning to play against international team and the better zone defense.

Excuse me? Tiring competition against other countries teams vs practice basketball is very draining. I'd think so. One is official & a real competition where as the other is more of...a practice. You can take a break blah blah. I'm sure a real game is more tiring than practice. What in heavens name do you mean you don't think it's such a big issue? You can practice basketball and not be as tired for the next season or you can work your ass off for your country to qualify. Hmm, I wonder which of the two is more tiring. Practice or a real game? Tough one.

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Garnett will probably be more ready for trainingscamp then Duncan will be. but you are making it sound that his condition will drop trough the entire season. A busy summer doesnt have a effect on a players entire upcoming season. Maybe a short time, but definetly not a full season if that is what you are saying.

[twolvezfanfoever]

It dont make a difference,KG is the best player

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Actually he is not.

[Jackal]

Garnett will probably be more ready for trainingscamp then Duncan will be. but you are making it sound that his condition will drop trough the entire season. A busy summer doesnt have a effect on a players entire upcoming season. Maybe a short time, but definetly not a full season if that is what you are saying.

Let's not forget Duncan started off the season slowly...(KG had the whole summer off because he turned down Team USA stating he needed rest, whereas Duncan kept playing, in 2003 he only got only one month's rest. Plus he started off being injured.) TD could've been just as good as KG or maybe even better than KG were it not for these factors.

If you start off the season slowly, don't they effect your averages over the entire season? I never implied TD was tired the whole season.

[twolvezfanfoever]

Please don't get me started with this.

[Jackal]

Please, start.

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Its a very small amount that eventually wont really matter that drops, *IF* you produce less in the early face of the season because of busy summer activities. Even if Duncan and Garnett would share the same offcourt activity, Garnett would still have a higher Efficiency Rating rating because he is a better all around player then Duncan is.

[Jackal]

I'll give you that much, KG has better all around skills.

TD still > KG though. I've stated reasons NOT based on one (a single) season. I've done it for their entire career.

If Riot is allowed to use "KG came into the league so young blah blah", I think I'm warrented to use TD's off-season activities.

I'm yet to see a good argument from Riot as to how KG > TD not based on the previous season.

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And I agree with ou that Duncan is better then Garnett.....based on that I dont like Garnett, and that Duncan is a better player

[Hannibal]

... I agree that Duncan has had the better career than KG, what I don't agree with is that you people claim he is WAY BETTER. I've said it a couple of times already. Or maybe it's you people who don't know how to read. Please read my previous posts. I DO NOT claim that KG is the better player. I said they're almost equal. Duncan has more accolades, but he is NOT WAAAAYYY BETTER than Garnett. Comprende?

[twolvezfanfoever]

everybody shouyld know that TD has had a better career cuz he got his rings already.Its coo thouhg

[Jackal]

... I agree that Duncan has had the better career than KG, what I don't agree with is that you people claim he is WAY BETTER. I've said it a couple of times already. Or maybe it's you people who don't know how to read. Please read my previous posts. I DO NOT claim that KG is the better player. I said they're almost equal. Duncan has more accolades, but he is NOT WAAAAYYY BETTER than Garnett. Comprende?

I don't think I ever say TD was much better than KG. That was Frank just bugging you. They are equal, KG has a bigger arsenal but TD is more dominant. No one (seriously) said TD was MUCH better than KG.

Atleast you I can discuss with.

[Riot]

Duncan has the better career. KG is the better all-around player.

I've heard Bill Walton, GREG ANTHONY!!!, Steven A Smith and others say KG is one of the best defensive rebounders of all time. But the reason why KG doesn't get alot of offensive rebounds is because he plays away from the paint (he got more off rebounds this year because he started to move in some more). But that isn't a knock on KG. when KG came in he couldn't shot for a lick. He had one of the worse strokes I've seen in awhile.

But Flip's system is a ball rotation, shooting offense. KG enolved into that like Duncan has evolved into Popovich type player. I think it's obvious who the better rebounder is.

If you want to talk about being tired, how about KG who does friggin everything on the court for longer minutes? You think KG would get tired playing 40+ minutes for 82 games? Duncan didn't even play the whole season. So if you are going to use that then I can use that KG plays longer and harder. Don't tell me that duncan plays as hard as KG because KG does way more on the court than Duncan does. Duncan plays hard, but KG does more under more minutes too.

Duncan<KG. Spurs>Wolves.

It's obvious to me who I'd take. He may not be a material winner (Playoff MVP, TITLE) but he works his ass off like one.

[twolvezfanfoever]

Riot is the only real friend I have in here.And if KG was on the Spurs, he would have a ring too.He just got the supportin cast that Duncan has got already this year.Thats why we can beat them

[Hannibal]

... I agree that Duncan has had the better career than KG, what I don't agree with is that you people claim he is WAY BETTER. I've said it a couple of times already. Or maybe it's you people who don't know how to read. Please read my previous posts. I DO NOT claim that KG is the better player. I said they're almost equal. Duncan has more accolades, but he is NOT WAAAAYYY BETTER than Garnett. Comprende?

I don't think I ever say TD was much better than KG. That was Frank just bugging you. They are equal, KG has a bigger arsenal but TD is more dominant. No one (seriously) said TD was MUCH better than KG.

Atleast you I can discuss with.

I know man. You're one of the more reasonable people posting on these boards. It's those other people that claim TD is way better than KG that bug me.

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Riot is the only real friend I have in here.And if KG was on the Spurs, he would have a ring too.He just got the supportin cast that Duncan has got already this year.Thats why we can beat them

Well aint you populair,

Anyway, ofcourse he will win a ring if he would play on the Spurs, no one can beat him on the same team as Tim Duncan, but that doesnt make any sense at all. But I think you meant to say that if you switch Duncan with Garnett that KG will win a ring in SAN right? Wrong, Duncan/Sprewell/Cassell is alot better then KG and Tony Parker

[Hannibal]

Riot is the only real friend I have in here.And if KG was on the Spurs, he would have a ring too.He just got the supportin cast that Duncan has got already this year.Thats why we can beat them

Well aint you populair,

Anyway, ofcourse he will win a ring if he would play on the Spurs, no one can beat him on the same team as Tim Duncan, but that doesnt make any sense at all. But I think you meant to say that if you switch Duncan with Garnett that KG will win a ring in SAN right? Wrong, Duncan/Sprewell/Cassell is alot better then KG and Tony Parker

Are you implying that Duncan/Parker > KG/Spree/Cassell? Seriously?

[Riot]

I think we're talking about in past years. When Spurs won the title. KG/Sprewell/Cassell went farther than duncan/parker/ginobili

Robinson-Garnett-Bowen-Ginobili-Parker

Rasho-Duncan-Wally-Gill-Hudson

Who wins the title?

[Hannibal]

I think we're talking about in past years. When Spurs won the title. KG/Sprewell/Cassell went farther than duncan/parker/ginobili

Robinson-Garnett-Bowen-Ginobili-Parker

Rasho-Duncan-Wally-Gill-Hudson

Who wins the title?

I agree. A no-brainer.

[twolvezfanfoever]

Like I said,we just got a real contendin team last year and injuries hurt us when it counted the most.TD has really always had a decent supporting cast.

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Are you implying that Duncan/Parker > KG/Spree/Cassell? Seriously?

Thats not what I said.

He said that if Garnett would play in San Antonio, he would have win a ring. So I assume he meant that IF Duncan and KG would change teams that the Spurs with KG would be better then Duncan in Minnesota. Which I have to disagree with. The Wolves have a better team, but if you replace Duncan with KG, then Minnesota would be even better.

[Riot]

I really, really, highly doubt that. You don't quite understand how much the Wolves rely on KG.

In the playoffs, we get swept with duncan over KG.

KG ran out on the open shooter, point guard, best rebounder, leader, playing 46 min, help defense, ect, ect.

KG was doing shit I didn't know he could do when Sam and Hudson went down. Duncan no way would he have been able to do the stuff KG did.

Lakers 4-2 win against wolves with KG
Lakers 4-0 win against wolves with Duncan.