Most overlooked undrafted PLayer?

by **bballer22** on Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:57 am

did any1 see the NBA.com pooll on NBA undrfted overlooked player, 78% voted for Big Ben?! What the hell!?
If u get voted as a started in ur very first All-Star game and win D player for the second time, and get all the articles written about u and ur D how the hell r u over looked?!!

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:14 pm

I think the poll refers to how they were overlooked the year they entered the draft (and subsequently went undrafted).

by **Fresh8** on Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:28 pm

I reakon most overlooked player would be Earl Boykins because he was overlooked because of his size and it took 4-5 years until he got onto a Team's frequent rotaion!

by **Jowe** on Sun Oct 19, 2003 2:31 pm

thats about the same for ben wallace i think,
the wizards tried to use him as a sg when he played for them :roll:

by **VCFAN** on Sun Oct 19, 2003 2:52 pm

wow I could never picture ben wallace as a shooting guard.
That would be very poor coaching and managerial decisions made if ben was a shooting guard.

by **Old School Fool** on Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:03 pm

Ben was 6'9'' at the time and he never had a fro...he had Twist Cornrows which were seperated =\

and the best Undrafted player is....Chris Childs because i SAID SO

by **bballer22** on Sun Oct 19, 2003 8:16 pm

many pple dont belive his 6'9, they asy hes closer to 6'7 6'8, thats y they put him as SG, who has a 6'7 C or PF? and he had a pro body.

by **ThisizaJackMove** on Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:30 pm

Yeah Big Ben is actually about 6'7. Him at Sg is a funny thought however. I remember Slam had an article on him and they talks about it

by **MaD_hAND1e** on Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:29 pm

Most overlooked undrafted PLayer?

So that player doesn't have to be in the NBA?
Me :cool:

I agree, Big Ben is the best undrafted player, all those defense guys like Bruce Bowen and Ben Wallace are making teams that didn't draft them kick themselves now.

by **Nick** on Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:51 pm

bballer22 wrote:who has a 6'7 C or PF?

The Spurs, :cool:

Malik Rose.

by **Filip** on Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:04 pm

Ben Wallace = The best center in the NBA after Shaquille O'neal

by **Shep** on Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:13 pm

B.Wallace=power forward

even if he was a center, Z.Ilgauskas is still second behind shaq

by **Filip** on Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:22 pm

Shep Ramsey wrote:B.Wallace=power forward

even if he was a center, Z.Ilgauskas is still second behind shaq

Maybe, he is more a PF in size mathers, but he is strong enought to defend Centers.
Iglauskas ain't got shit on Big Ben! Iglauskas does more points than Big Ben, but thats all

by **Shep** on Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:02 pm

Maybe, he is more a PF in size mathers, but he is strong enought to defend Centers

so is karl malone...would u call him a center?

numbers ilgauskas would be getting if he got wallace's minutes: 22.6p, 9.9r, 2.1a, .91s, 2.47b.

by **Filip** on Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:07 am

so is karl malone...would u call him a center?

numbers ilgauskas would be getting if he got wallace's minutes: 22.6p, 9.9r, 2.1a, .91s, 2.47b.

Karl Malone doesn't block 3.15 a game + Ben Wallace is more smooth.
And Iglauskas don't grab 15 ½ rebounds a game.
Iglauskas dosen't defense can't even be compared to Big Ben.

by **Filip** on Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:09 am

so is karl malone...would u call him a center?

numbers ilgauskas would be getting if he got wallace's minutes: 22.6p, 9.9r, 2.1a, .91s, 2.47b.

Karl Malone doesn't block 3.15 a game + Ben Wallace is more smooth.
And Iglauskas don't grab 15 ½ rebounds a game.
Iglauskas defense can't even be compared to Big Ben.

by **Shep** on Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:56 pm

ilgauskas beats wallace more in offence more than wallace beats ilgauskas in defence

by **Filip** on Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:27 am

Big Ben got the Defensive player of the year second time in a row, what have Ilgauskas got?

+

Wallace is more important to his team than Ilgauskas.
If Pistons didn't have Ben Wallace they would not make the playoffs.

by **The Big Racist** on Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:33 am

Slam harder wrote:what have Ilgauskas got?

Creaky legs and a lot of surgerys!

by **Swoosh** on Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:19 am

if the cavs didnt have ilgauskas, their record last year would have been more like 5-77 or something, u guys start comparing teams when its about players, thats not the question here :roll:

, though i agree wallace is better then ilgauskas imho, ilgauskas is definately as important to the cavs, any good big man is, wallace just happens to have better players around him then wallace does. But in a way Big Ben might be more important cuz defense wins games and he is pretty much the whole defense in detroit so i agree on the fact they would have trouble reaching the playoffs without him, but Ilgauskas offence shouldnt be underestimated cuz a legitimate scoring threat in the post could be a crucial factor in winning or losing a championship(i know i can contradict myself at times but u just gonna have to live with that)

by **Shep** on Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:48 pm

what have Ilgauskas got?

- the ability to play on both ends of the floor
- height

by **Filip** on Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:17 pm

Well Ben Wallace got -->

- The ability to defend any player in the league
- Strenght

by **Shep** on Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:36 pm

he can't guard ilgauskas: ilgauskas averaged 20.3 points against the pistons last year in only 32 minutes

by **Filip** on Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:31 pm

Yeah, I know he is a great scorer (though someone said that he only scored in the last minuts of the game when it didn't matter anyway) but
his scoring abilitys dosen't match Bens defensive abilitys

by **Shep** on Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:07 pm

if wallace is as good as you say he is defensively, then why couldn't he hold ilgauskas to less then his average?

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