Garnett A Net?

[Jackal]

Kevin Garnett a Net?

That would be sweet, but would you give up your whole Nets team for one guy? I wouldnt, seeing that K-Mart is only going to get better as well as Jefferson...the PG position is a Lock...The only two weak spots I see are the Center and the Shooting Guard position... I would rather make some small time trades and bring in capable guys to those positions, instead of losing a WHOLE team, for one guy...
Do you guys think it would be fair enough/ good enough trade?

[Andrew]

As good as KG is, giving up Kenyon Martin and Richard Jefferson (as opposed to say one of them plus two or three of their better bench players) probably doesn't sound too appealing to New Jersey. Compare this to the proposed KG to Chicago trade. The Bulls can afford to give up the three or four guys it would take to land KG.

I'm with Jackal, I think the Nets should build on what they already have. And as discussed elsewhere, a coaching change might also be in order.

[Jackal]

But the feeling I'm getting from the whole thing is that NJ wants a title RITE now, they dont really wanna wait for their young stars to develop. With Garnett they see the title.

[Andrew]

Getting rid of K-Mart and Jefferson and bringing in KG wouldn't guarantee a title though. It would almost definitely mean a return trip to the Eastern Finals and likely a third straight appearance in the NBA Finals, but I still don't think the Nets would be significantly better.

The quick fix for a title right now won't necessarily work out as hoped. Consider that New Jersey would be getting rid of two starters for one starter - that leaves a hole to fill. KG is going to start as one of the forwards, but the Nets don't really have anyone to adequately fill the other vacant forward spot. KG is an upgrade over both K-Mart and Jefferson individually, but as a team the Nets really wouldn't be any better off, IMHO.

[Poollit]

I think an upgrade but in exactly what and how much?
K-mart is capable of grabbing the boards.
he can't pass as KG can, but Kidd can do that so no need for passing.
What else can KG do that K-mart can't do except lead the team, which isn't neccessary with Kidd around?
Losing K-mart who is getting very good, and same with Jefferson who can play good D, and is like K-mart can board (not AS well) and score.
yeah, Nets should wait

[benji]

The Bulls can afford to give up the three or four guys it would take to land KG.

The Bulls can afford to give up Curry, Chandler, Marshall and Crawford?

[Jackal]

The nets' point of view: Trade K-Mart/Jefferson for Garnett who can give consistency...Thats what I think their thinking..but i sure as hell wouldnt make the trade

You're rite Ben, I dont think the Bulls can afford to give up those guys...wait a couple of years for Curry and Chandler to develop and you'll have quiete a front line there

[air gordon]

The Bulls can afford to give up Curry, Chandler, Marshall and Crawford?

i don't know where you got that one from but that was not the rumored trade, mr. credibility

[Jackal]

It was a rumour.....I do remember reading Curry & Chandler for Garnett...I dont know bout the other two though .

[Steve04]

You're rite Ben, I dont think the Bulls can afford to give up those guys...wait a couple of years for Curry and Chandler to develop and you'll have quiete a front line there

Why would the Nets trade Jefferson/Martin who are emmerging stars and much farther along in their development than the Baby Bulls for Garnett?

It was a rumour.....I do remember reading Curry & Chandler for Garnett...I dont know bout the other two though

Actually, the rumor was not Curry,Chandler but Chandler,Jwill/Crawford,Rose and a 1rst round pick

[Jackal]

My bad mate . Why are you asking me that G-Wiz Ask the nets why they would think of trading those guys. I didnt write the column did I .

[Andrew]

The Bulls can afford to give up Curry, Chandler, Marshall and Crawford?

No, but the rumoured trade I was referring to was Rose, Chandler, Jay Will, Robinson and Chicago's first round pick this year for KG.

[putodelagoa]

Bold moves make champions. After the Finals you could see Kidd losing is faith in his team.
What would be worse: Losing kidd while keeping Martin ( that will never be a Garnett type ) and slasher like Jefferson( a kind of player that falls from the trees), or trading them alltoghether for a player that would -alone-draw people to NJ, and then add the pieces around two fitting superstars...
Doesn't sound that bad to me.

[LeBron James]

garnett is wacko with big head.i hate him i dont know why!by the way he talks with himself in the court.it is told by the minnesota players!
is he wacko-yes

[Jackal]

That had nothing to do with the topic J-Kidd, I'm sorry but could you plz post about sumthing worthwhile, like what you think about the trade? It's nice you hate KG. But you dont have to share that with us .

[Steve04]

Or atleast if you share it, share it after you post something useful.

[Andrew]

Bold moves make champions.

Granted, but there's a thin line between bravery and stupidity. Remember, the 1996 Seattle Supersonics had a great year, and might have made a return trip to the NBA Finals had they not decided to re-tool. Instead they replaced Ervin Johnson with Jim McIlvaine - a bold move but ultimately a stupid one. Ervin Johnson is no All-Star, but McIlvaine is no Ervin Johnson.

I guess it comes down to this: if a trade solves a problem but creates another, leaving you in the same position as before, was it really worth making the trade?

[Swoosh]

Correct as always

[putodelagoa]

Well Andrew, likewise I don't think Martin is quite the same player Garnett is. I do think losing jefferson in the process would be a blow. For all the others involved, I see no problem. Should New Jersey be able to keep Aaron Williams and kerry kittles while doing the trade I really believe it would't make them worse. RJ and Martin could be emerging stars, but they combined wouldn't make for KG...He can play three positions excelling at all of those, specially in the East.
Put together two dominating MVP's in one team, surround them with hungry role players, improve through the draft and you should be set to go... Hey, San Antonio did it, with one mvp type of player.
Besides I do think Jefferson and Martin's game is largely influenced by Jason Kidd's playmaking. He makes them better and shinier... It's a golden pill.
Just imagine KG and Kidd sharing the ball, making a whole bunch of nobodies look like players again...
Imagine KG beeing fed by the best point guard in the game... This is a tandem I would like to see.
Besides, as reckless as this move might be, I believe that the alternative will be an orfan New Jersey team, without Kidd running the show. How good will martin and RJ look then?

[putodelagoa]

And if I recall it correctly, the McIlvaine / Johnson swap destroyed the Sonics team in the sense that the team's chemistry went AMOK... with that ridiculous contract they gave Mc Ilvaine. Talent wise it wasn't a really meaningfull change. Besides They had lost Frank Brickowsky

[benji]

No, but the rumoured trade I was referring to was Rose, Chandler, Jay Will, Robinson and Chicago's first round pick this year for KG.

Actually, the rumor was not Curry,Chandler but Chandler,Jwill/Crawford,Rose and a 1rst round pick

i don't know where you got that one from but that was not the rumored trade, mr. credibility

I'm well aware it wasn't. But I was trying to think of the "three or four guys it would take to land KG." Rose, Chandler, Broken, Robinson and #7 would not land you KG.

And if I recall it correctly, the McIlvaine / Johnson swap destroyed the Sonics team in the sense that the team's chemistry went AMOK... with that ridiculous contract they gave Mc Ilvaine.

You do recall it correctly. Jim McIlvaine was basically the same as Ervin Johnson, a little worse on the glass, but better shot blocker, but his large contract irked Kemp and that brought a should-be dynasty down.

[Andrew]

Well Andrew, likewise I don't think Martin is quite the same player Garnett is. I do think losing jefferson in the process would be a blow. For all the others involved, I see no problem. Should New Jersey be able to keep Aaron Williams and kerry kittles while doing the trade I really believe it would't make them worse

It wouldn't make them worse, but I think they'd be about the same.

RJ and Martin could be emerging stars, but they combined wouldn't make for KG...He can play three positions excelling at all of those, specially in the East.

But he can't play three positions all at once, that's my point. I know that sometimes you have to do what you have to do to get a superstar like KG, but if you don't have to give up so much, then you should avoid doing so. As an extreme example, if Chicago was able to trade Rick Brunson for KG ie no salary cap restrictions and temporary insanity on the part of Kevin McHale, it would be foolish for Chicago to reject that trade and offer Eddy Curry instead.

And if I recall it correctly, the McIlvaine / Johnson swap destroyed the Sonics team in the sense that the team's chemistry went AMOK... with that ridiculous contract they gave Mc Ilvaine. Talent wise it wasn't a really meaningfull change.

True, it wasn't as bad as Orlando's situation in 1996 (Shaq out, Koncak to fill the void), but Johnson did post better numbers than McIlvaine. Tinkering heavily with a team that was just coming off a season in which they won a franchise record 64 games and made the NBA Finals may not have been such a good idea.

I guess I'd make a greedy GM - I'd be looking to get the best deal for as little as possible.

[putodelagoa]

My point is simply this: With garnett, kidd stays, New Jersey becomes a fan favourite, there are no more empty seats in the finals, you have a dominating, flashier version of Stockton -Malone in the EAST, nice, cheap, complementary pieces are brought around and they do reach the Finals again, because those two bring gold out of mud.

Without Garnett, Kidd is good as gone, and New Jersey keeps the two seemingly bright forwards that will have all their weaknesses exposed by the lack of a playmaker that brings out the best in them, and they'll be again a loosing team, specially if they keep their bonehead coach. Besides you'll have the same attendance as in Atlanta...

[paul_pierce_the_truth]

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but Kevin McHale said he would not trade Kevin Garnett to Chicago or to anyone else.

I read it on hoopshype.com

[putodelagoa]

He's wise...