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Should the Rockets tank the season?

Postby Fenix on Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:33 am

If you think about it, it's completely logical decision. Mcgrady will be just 27 years old at the start of next season and Yao 26. If they decide to go that way, they would have the luxury of letting the duo to relax and wait for their injuries to heal. And they could start playing Stromile Swift as a starter to see if he'll become more consistent this way. And what is even more important, they would get one of the top pick in the upcoming draft with which they could fill their needs. They urgently need another guy who can create scoring opportunities for himself as for the others. Rajon Rondo would provide playmaking and D from the PG position, but he wouldn't give them the much needed size at SG/SF, so they would have to decide between Gay and Morrison or simply pick whoever it falls into their lap. Morrison would fit well into Houston's structured offense with him being the SF. His shooting would punish the double teams on Mcgrady&Yao and he would prevent many of them with him moving off the ball a la Hamilton. He wouldn't give you a lot on D, but he's probably going to turn into a decent team defender. Gay on the other hand is all about potential. He isn't as raw as people thing he is and he could be a regular contributor as a starter in his rookie season because of his size/length and athleticism. He could also learn greatly from Mcgrady as his mentor and could very well become that second superstar T-Mac needs to win. Imagine - in his third year Mcgrady would still be only 29 years old. He's my pick if available and if Houston really decides that this season is lost.

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Rudy Gay/Ryan Bowen
Tracy Mcgrady/Derek Anderson
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Postby BIG GREEN on Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:37 am

Tank the season?..you say that like its some sort of option. The entire organization would be severly punished if they tried that.
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Postby H Rock on Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:47 am

No. The Rockets were about .500 when most their players were healthy. It's just the injuries that have gotten them down. So, no. Plus, Jeff Van Gundy would never comply to it.
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Postby Laxation on Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:24 am

thats such a dumb idea

it isnt even guarenteed that they WOULD get the #1 pick, they will probly be around the top 5-10 anyway, and thats WITHOUT losing respect, fans, and interest of players. who wants to play on a team trying to lose? :roll: or for it, for that matter. good luck resigning players, good luck signing FA's.
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Postby Fenix on Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:26 am

San Antonio did it.
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Postby Laxation on Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:35 am

oh ok, houston can do it then
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in fact, why doesnt every team do it, because rudy gay (or whoever they would decide to pick) is really worth it isnt he!
lets face it, the #1 pick isnt quite tim duncan...
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Postby Jugs on Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:55 am

But they all aren't quite the Olowokandi :idea:
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Postby Fenix on Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:12 am

The point is, they're probably not going to make the playoffs. And even if they do, they're matchup will be SA. So why not keep losing and get another piece for the future? Sure, there are no Duncans in this draft, but this team already has its own in Mcgrady. They need Ginobilis and Parkers. You know, top notch role players. I've seen enough of Morrison and Gay to say that they're certainly going to be just that (if not more) and based on my reading of scouting reports, there's probably going to be a player for every position they need to fill.
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Postby Laxation on Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:15 am

to call theyre season fucked is an understatement. they will do bad, and probly wont make the playoffs. that doesnt mean they play to lose.
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Postby dada on Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:18 am

People have pride you know, there is only so much losing one can take.
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Postby Mikki on Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:24 am

Yohance Bailey wrote:Tank the season?..you say that like its some sort of option. The entire organization would be severly punished if they tried that.


Is there a rule that doesn't allow you to 'lose games intentionally'?
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Postby cyanide on Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:26 am

I don't think any team in history have tried to lose a season intentionally. There's too much pride.
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Postby Laxation on Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:34 am

Little Bill wrote:
Yohance Bailey wrote:Tank the season?..you say that like its some sort of option. The entire organization would be severly punished if they tried that.


Is there a rule that doesn't allow you to 'lose games intentionally'?


you wouldnt make it public
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Postby Matt on Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:04 am

don't worry, T-Mac is a pro @tanking, and with the rest of the team = ass, they won't win.
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Postby Fenix on Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:16 am

Yeah. The last time he didn't really object. He simply won the scoring crown and took it like a woman (->demanded a trade).
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Postby Its_asdf on Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:18 am

VanK wrote:San Antonio did it.


I don't recall any time that San Antonio has tanked the season, at least not that my memory knows. They had one season where David Robinson was hurt for almost the whole season so they completely blew ass.
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Postby xman on Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:56 am

Why is this? When T-Mac is on the team then this team sucks and i don´t think that it´s T-Mac´s fault.
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Postby Axel on Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:15 am

The Rockets don't have to try to tank the season intentionally, they do a great job of it even when they're not trying.

If the Rockets did intentionally tank the season, T-Mac would have to time have surgery and recover for whatever is causing his back problems (i think i recall it being operable... not sure though)
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Postby Andrew on Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:55 am

Its_asdf wrote:
VanK wrote:San Antonio did it.


I don't recall any time that San Antonio has tanked the season, at least not that my memory knows. They had one season where David Robinson was hurt for almost the whole season so they completely blew ass.


Exactly. Sean Elliott also missed a significant amount of time and key reserve Chuck Person was also out the entire year. Their top scorer that year was a returning Dominique Wilkins and he only played around 60 games and averaged just under 18 or so. They didn't tank, they simply couldn't win.

If any team tanked that year to cash in on the Duncan Sweepstakes it was Boston, though that's still only cynical speculation and in case, they lost out. ;)
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:22 am

Andrew wrote:
Its_asdf wrote:
VanK wrote:San Antonio did it.


I don't recall any time that San Antonio has tanked the season, at least not that my memory knows. They had one season where David Robinson was hurt for almost the whole season so they completely blew ass.


Exactly. Sean Elliott also missed a significant amount of time and key reserve Chuck Person was also out the entire year. Their top scorer that year was a returning Dominique Wilkins and he only played around 60 games and averaged just under 18 or so. They didn't tank, they simply couldn't win.

If any team tanked that year to cash in on the Duncan Sweepstakes it was Boston, though that's still only cynical speculation and in case, they lost out. ;)




Good to see people still remember and respect the actual history of teh game... and San Antonio's. :wink:
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Postby J@3 on Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:02 am

History? It was like 10 years ago :lol:
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:28 am

I thought you were the one complaining about all the 12 year olds infesting the forums...

maybe some of them do need their share of enlightenment. :lol:
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Postby cklitsie on Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:38 pm

As soon as I saw this title and author: VanK, I just knew there was going to be a starting lineup of the Rockets for next year with an added Rudy Gay/Ronnie Brewer/LaMarcus Aldridge and possible some added FA's as well.. I'm so sick of that..
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Postby Fenix on Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:01 pm

cklitsie wrote:As soon as I saw this title and author: VanK, I just knew there was going to be a starting lineup of the Rockets for next year with an added Rudy Gay/Ronnie Brewer/LaMarcus Aldridge and possible some added FA's as well.. I'm so sick of that..

Maybe you should take a pill or a hundred. What exactly is wrong with speculating how a team could improve via FA and draft? And guys I'm constantly mentioning (Gay, Brewer, Aldridge, Morrison...) are the ones I have seen play and I believe that they'll be something special in the League. When I see and like others, I will mention them too.

I still say that the pre-Duncan Spurs tanked that season. Robinson and other could come much sooner than they did, but when they saw that the season is lost and that they can actually win the lottery, they decided to tank it.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:27 pm

Robinson and other could come much sooner than they did, but when they saw that the season is lost and that they can actually win the lottery, they decided to tank it.


That's called 'not risking aggravation of previous injury by playing in meaningless games'. I consider it a logilal option, not tanking.
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