Lebron

by **Carmo** on Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:14 am

Lebron is absolutely cutting sick!!! He has 24 point with 3 mins to go in the first half! I think he might be making a statement.........

by **dada** on Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:26 am

a statement that he is good? i think we already know that.

by **Carmo** on Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:55 am

i was refering to a statement more along the lines of this "i am the best player in the league no matter what anyone else says"

by **cyanide** on Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:52 pm

He ended up with 31. He didn't live up to his standards in the rebounds and assists department, though, but that 4 three pointers in 2 minutes was pretty cool (y)

by **Matthew** on Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:06 pm

Kobe is the best player in the NBA, followed by Garnett and Tmac. Lebron is right there though

by **Malfa** on Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:20 pm

7 points in second half wtf..

by **BOSS** on Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:24 pm

Whatever, he still got 31 points and was jus about perfect in the 3 point range. As long as they win.

by **Riot** on Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:27 pm

Carmo wrote:i was refering to a statement more along the lines of this "i am the best player in the league no matter what anyone else says"

Maybe he should have gotten a college education if he thinks that. :lol:

Top 5 players in the league-
#1-Kevin Garnett
#2-Kobe Bryant
#3-Tim Duncan
-----------BIG GAP------------------
#4-Tracy McGrady
#5-Shaquille O'Neal

by **cklitsie** on Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:54 pm

Riot wrote:
Carmo wrote:Maybe he should have gotten a college education if he thinks that.

Top 5 players in the league-
#1-Kevin Garnett
#2-Kobe Bryant
#3-Tim Duncan
-----------BIG GAP------------------
#4-Tracy McGrady
#5-Shaquille O'Neal

Yeah, good one Riot. I agree, he should've attended the same college as KG, Kobe and T-Mac.

by **Fenix** on Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:15 pm

People claim that he worked on his outside shooting. A lot. And judging by the stats, that's kinda true. Imagine if he becomes a Tracy McGrady-like shooter. A guy with his psychical ability, inside game and triple threat skills would become unstoppable if that hapened.

by **Matthew** on Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:08 pm

Vank, its just one game though. Michael Redd has been the best player so far, does that mean he's the mvp? Lebron James has one good shooting night all of a sudden he's a consistant outside shooter? The potential is there for him to be there this season, but he could also fall in love with the outside shot and that could effect his scoring and %. Theres still alot of questions to be answered about Lebron this season.

by **zmac** on Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:43 pm

I dont think we will see much more of that outside shooting like LeBron did today, and it turned out to be a pretty average game from him....

Thing that shocked me, is the 49 points off the Cavs bench!
49!!!
We struggled to get 10-15 last season.....I couldnt be any happier with the game today.

by **Matt** on Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:03 pm

that was crazy the way he just totally owned Nachbar...there was nothing the D could do, he just let em fly.

by **Carmo** on Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:14 pm

Matthew wrote:Kobe is the best player in the NBA, followed by Garnett and Tmac. Lebron is right there though

I believe Kobe is the best player too. I was just predicting LeBron's thoughts.

by **Riot** on Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:01 am

cklitsie wrote:
Riot wrote:
Carmo wrote:Maybe he should have gotten a college education if he thinks that.

Top 5 players in the league-
#1-Kevin Garnett
#2-Kobe Bryant
#3-Tim Duncan
-----------BIG GAP------------------
#4-Tracy McGrady
#5-Shaquille O'Neal
Yeah, good one Riot. I agree, he should've attended the same college as KG, Kobe and T-Mac.

Do you even know who I was taking a shot at? I said if Lebron thinks he's the best player in the league then he should have gone to college. He isn't even top 5.

by **volsey** on Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:28 am

k you cant really judge anyone after one game, but i definately think lebron is top 5...... he was second last year in efficiency..... and was first overall in the nba fantasy draft thing this year, even ahead of garnett.... the only thing people said he had to work on last year was his 3 pt shooting and so far it looks like he has improved

YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
Lebrons
04-05 CLE 80 80 42.4 .472 .351 .750 1.4 6.0 7.4 7.2 2.21 .65 3.28 1.80 27.2
Kobes
04-05 LAL 66 66 40.7 .433 .339 .816 1.4 4.5 5.9 6.0 1.30 .80 4.09 2.60 27.6
T macs
04-05 HOU 78 78 40.8 .431 .326 .774 .9 5.3 6.2 5.7 1.73 .67 2.58 2.10 25.7

http://www.nba.com/players/

by **Eugene** on Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:44 am

I did enjoy the "on-fire" gesture, when he held his right hand over his left as if holidng it over a lighter, then blowing it out, and shaking it off. As far as cocky celebrations go, it's pretty creative. The whole dusting off the shoulders and jersey pulling's getting old. Now I'm just waiting for a chance for me to use that in a game.

by **EGarrett** on Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:06 am

If you want to play one-on-one...I'd go with Kobe...

If you want to win basketball games...I'd pick Lebron every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

by **volsey** on Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:06 am

If you want to play one-on-one...I'd go with Kobe...

If you want to win basketball games...I'd pick Lebron every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

totaly agree

by **Riot** on Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:14 am

EGarrett wrote:If you want to play one-on-one...I'd go with Kobe...

If you want to win basketball games...I'd pick Lebron every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Kobe Bryant-3 NBA titles
Lebron James-0 playoff apperances

Funny how you want to win basketball games yet he has never even been to the post season (IN THE EASTERN CONFERENCE!)

I hope you were just comparing Lebron and Kobe Bryant. Because if you want to win you'd take Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Allen Iverson and maybe even Jason Kidd over Lebron James.

Lebron is a great player but the hype around him is too much, IMHO. I think he's probably the 7th best player in the league right now.

by **volsey** on Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:37 am

hes just saying lebron is more of a team player or all around player.... lebrons only in his 3rd year and for the first time he has an actualy good team to compliment him... kobe had shaq for all of his titles....

by **Laxation** on Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:38 am

Riot wrote:
EGarrett wrote:If you want to play one-on-one...I'd go with Kobe...

If you want to win basketball games...I'd pick Lebron every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Kobe Bryant-3 NBA titles
Lebron James-0 playoff apperances

Funny how you want to win basketball games yet he has never even been to the post season (IN THE EASTERN CONFERENCE!)

I hope you were just comparing Lebron and Kobe Bryant. Because if you want to win you'd take Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Allen Iverson and maybe even Jason Kidd over Lebron James.

Lebron is a great player but the hype around him is too much, IMHO. I think he's probably the 7th best player in the league right now.

yeh and lakers did REALLY well without shaq in the team didnt they... :roll:

hes only played 2 years, and without shaq on his team, so comparing his wins to kobes just isnt right

by **Riot** on Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:41 am

But why do people get the impression that Lebron is such a great winner? He hasn't made the post season and he's in the weakest conference.

How many titles has Shaq won without Kobe?

by **beau_boy04** on Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:18 pm

Matthew wrote:Vank, its just one game though. Michael Redd has been the best player so far, does that mean he's the mvp? Lebron James has one good shooting night all of a sudden he's a consistant outside shooter? The potential is there for him to be there this season, but he could also fall in love with the outside shot and that could effect his scoring and %. Theres still alot of questions to be answered about Lebron this season.

I think he has answered each and possible questions. He is definitely the most talented player on the court, no doubts about it. He isn't the best overall player at this moment but just give it time and you'll see. I know he couldn't take his team back to the playoff, but I will tell you what... how many players have been able to carry all the load on their shoulders and take them to the promised land? not too many! so as of last year, Lebron's been a looser and not a winner.

by **beau_boy04** on Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:19 pm

volsey wrote:k you cant really judge anyone after one game, but i definately think lebron is top 5...... he was second last year in efficiency..... and was first overall in the nba fantasy draft thing this year, even ahead of garnett.... the only thing people said he had to work on last year was his 3 pt shooting and so far it looks like he has improved

YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
Lebrons
04-05 CLE 80 80 42.4 .472 .351 .750 1.4 6.0 7.4 7.2 2.21 .65 3.28 1.80 27.2
Kobes
04-05 LAL 66 66 40.7 .433 .339 .816 1.4 4.5 5.9 6.0 1.30 .80 4.09 2.60 27.6
T macs
04-05 HOU 78 78 40.8 .431 .326 .774 .9 5.3 6.2 5.7 1.73 .67 2.58 2.10 25.7

http://www.nba.com/players/

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