Lakers vs Spurs

Like real basketball, as well as basketball video games? Talk about the NBA, NCAA, and other professional and amateur basketball leagues here.

Lakers vs Spurs

Postby beau_boy04 on Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:18 am

Two hungry teams for success... In my personal opinion if the Lakers dont pull it off good tonight against the Rocket and win the game convincingly.... I doubt they'd have any chances of beating the Spurs. I think whoever wins that serious would go all the way and win the championship this year. Let's admit it the Spurs gameplay suckass and thats because they dont have a show off team like the Lakers are... The spurs game consists of lots of fundamentals ( I guess Tim D is teaching them well) and their defense is just outrageous. That is why they win games because of their consistency, teamwork and defense. In the other hand when the Lakers play great they are unbeatable but when they don't even the Rockets could beat him. Come on now 4 future hall of famers!? even without Kobe Bryant they should be able to beat the Rockets tonight... come on now you still got 3 future hall of famers and what the Rockets got? bunch of people with 0 to nothing playoff experiences. I think there's too much arrogancy around the Lakers team... I agree you have gotta be confident to play the game but there is always a limit (check out Latrell Sprewell last night game when he started talking trash to some Denver dude after winning the game... by the way I didnt forget you missing one free throw Sprewell! lol

Lakers status:

Shaq: Knee problems lately. He thinks he's superman but your 30 something percent free throw is so lame buddy.

Payton: too arrogant, i mean just look at his face. Complain about his playing time and also the saying he doesnt fit in the triangle offense.

Malone: The man is a a warrior. I have to admit that... i love it when he refused to change his torn up uniform hahaha that was funny playing with that on... what a great warrior. If it wouldnt been for Michael Jordan, Karl would've have at least one tittle already lol

Kobe: he's been dealing his legal trouble very well. He has a lot going on his mind. I mean he could get 20 years of prison (scary thought) but kobe whats up with your FG %? I mean lots of people see the next Michael Jordan in you but MJ always shot close or over 50% FG in the playoff, something Kobe has not accomplish yet.

Fisher: 0 point going 0-7 last night... what the.... come on now you used to be the starting PG show me some guts.

Rest of the bench: their bench is nothing compared to the Spurs level of play and production.

Spurs status:

Duncan: Timmy being Duncan, i mean what else can i say? the man is mr. fundamentals. Almost 60% FG - good job.

Parker: next Jason Kidd but more offense and less rebound? the man is shooting over 50% FG - not bad for a 21 y/o kiddo

Ginobili: sometimes I hate this guy... he can do so much SO MUCH coming off the bench - amazing

Horry: over 60% in FG and 3 pt and perfect on the FT --- what? I wish he could of play this way his tenure with the lakers. The shot he missed last year was a big plus on getting kicked out from the lakers roster.

Rest of the team: Above Average - Good. Sometimes Great.

Conclusion: whichever team shows more courage, desire, braveness and the will to win will definitely win the series.

Good luck to both teams.

Peace out,
R
User avatar
beau_boy04
 
Posts: 1310
Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2002 9:56 am

Postby Andrew on Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:03 pm

I still think Minnesota and Sacramento are in with a chance, but I feel more confident in saying the winner of the Spurs/Lakers series (with all due respect to the Rockets, I don't see them coming all the way back from 3-1) will go on to win the championship. But I wouldn't rule out the Timberwolves or Kings just yet.

I agree that overconfidence could derail the Lakers. I felt the same way last year. I don't think the infamous "switch" is a good idea. At this point of the year, the Lakers should have already flicked that switch, not simply be ready to turn it on if need be.
User avatar
Andrew
Retro Basketball Gamer
Administrator
 
Posts: 115082
Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:51 pm
Location: Australia

Postby Andrew on Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:00 pm

Just a little while ago, I wrote:(with all due respect to the Rockets, I don't see them coming all the way back from 3-1)


And indeed, the Lakers did advance, winning Game 5 97-78. Gary Payton wasn't the hero in this one as Sit predicted, but it didn't really matter. Kobe had 31, 10 and 6 and the Mailman had 18, 9 and 5. (Boxscore)

So I guess we can make this the official Lakers/Spurs series thread now. :) Predictions?
User avatar
Andrew
Retro Basketball Gamer
Administrator
 
Posts: 115082
Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:51 pm
Location: Australia

Postby The Game on Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:19 pm

19 point win by LA :beer:... beware San Antonio :twisted:
User avatar
The Game
 
Posts: 736
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:16 pm
Location: Philippines

Postby idiot on Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:33 pm

Go Spurs :P ~!
User avatar
idiot
 
Posts: 1742
Joined: Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:53 pm

Postby Fresh8 on Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:55 pm

lol- hey Andrew... maybe I'm the one who jinxed Payton...or he just doesnt play much anymore (23 minutes) or Kobe was just playing TOO GOOD....

Payton reakons he this will be his series (vs. Spurs...) but I don't really think so...even though he does have to play better
User avatar
Fresh8
The poster formerly known as Sit
 
Posts: 14872
Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:19 pm

Postby Micchy_boy on Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:45 pm

this will be the rematch of last year western semifinal last year were san antonio win in six to route for winning ther second championship in 5 years.

now will be the outcome be the same or lakers will make a revenge.

first of all there will be no sweep in this series like some stupid said.

i also think that who ever will win this series will be the next champion!!!

so which team will be it.


me i like lakers to win it but it will be hard coz san antonio is a great team.

lakers in 6!!!
Image
Micchy's Lakers Dynasty l 2nd Season w/ NLSC BALLERS l
User avatar
Micchy_boy
 
Posts: 1975
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:47 am

Postby idiot on Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:08 pm

Micchy_boy wrote:first of all there will be no sweep in this series like some stupid said.


who said that?? :?
User avatar
idiot
 
Posts: 1742
Joined: Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:53 pm

Postby hmm on Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:53 pm

Go Spurs go beat those FLASHY Lakers
hmm
 
Posts: 2058
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2003 2:06 am

Postby Micchy_boy on Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:44 am

iDiot wrote:
Micchy_boy wrote:first of all there will be no sweep in this series like some stupid said.


who said that?? :?


someone in this NLSC forum said that lakers will be swept by spurs which will never happen even my membership on line NO SWEEP. even if spurs will win the seies it wont be a sweep.
but i want LAKERS TO WIN
Image
Micchy's Lakers Dynasty l 2nd Season w/ NLSC BALLERS l
User avatar
Micchy_boy
 
Posts: 1975
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:47 am

Postby Ben-le-ouf on Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:12 am

Payton is going to be lost against... TP !!
----------------------------------------------
Ben-le-ouf
 
Posts: 190
Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:27 am

Postby Stonecold on Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:24 am

How in the hell for the spurs to have home court advantage over lakers.
Lakers #2 vs. Spurs #3. Shitt. :evil: Eventhough spurs have better record, buttt.....
User avatar
Stonecold
 
Posts: 272
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:13 pm
Location: HELL YEAH

Postby Andrew on Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:10 pm

The same thing happened last year with the Kings and Mavericks. The Kings were the #2 seed by virtue of winning the Pacific, but the Mavericks had a superior regular season record, thus they had home court advantage. It might sound a little strange, but it makes sense.
User avatar
Andrew
Retro Basketball Gamer
Administrator
 
Posts: 115082
Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:51 pm
Location: Australia

Postby magius on Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:59 pm

Micchy_boy wrote:
iDiot wrote:
Micchy_boy wrote:first of all there will be no sweep in this series like some stupid said.


who said that?? :?


someone in this NLSC forum said that lakers will be swept by spurs which will never happen even my membership on line NO SWEEP. even if spurs will win the seies it wont be a sweep.
but i want LAKERS TO WIN


they said they 'might IF the lakers continued playing badly'. no need to get so touchy over it. :wink:

SPURS IN 7 ON A HORRY CLUTCH THREE WITH 0.1 SECONDS LEFT!!! WHOOHOOO! :D

spurs in 6
User avatar
magius
 
Posts: 1406
Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2002 3:37 pm

Postby . on Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:27 pm

I think the main problems for the Lakers will be Tony Parker, Bruce Bowen and Manu Ginobili.

GP should really give his best efford to stop Parker from penetrating to the hole, and making passes to open teammates. the last time the Lakers got killed by this in their deffense, also....they should defend the 3-point line alot better then they did this whole season, because players like Bowen, Ginobili and Parker can make these open shots, and they will if you give them open looks.

Also, the Spurs have a Imo very underrated player in Manuel Ginobili. If you let this guy run the court, he will drive to the lane, its simpel as that. The Lakers should watch out for those double high post screens set for Manu so he can get the ball, Im pretty sure that stopping him, will effect the Spurs offense.

About Tim Duncan, he is simply unstopable when he gets the ball into the low and highpost, when he has the ball sll you can do is hope that he will miss. What I liked about last game, is that Karl Malone did a good job on keeping him out of the low post, but he still got the ball in the high post and made the 15 footers. The only way to stop this guy is to not let him get the ball, and dont start double teaming, because they have very good looks when they are left open and trust me, they will make those shots.

Last game, Kobe was forcing alot in the first half trying to make a shot over Bruce Bowen. I rather see him driving inside, and draw the foul/make the basket or pass it to a open teammate. He did this late in the second half, but it was already to late to get back.

Anyway, I think this series will decide who will go to the finals, I predict a 4-2 or 4-3 win in favour of the Lakers
.
 
Posts: 3706
Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:02 pm

Postby Matt on Fri Apr 30, 2004 5:17 pm

this a tough on to decide.
Spurs big guys are up against Shaq and Malone. They key is to play good D and not give up cheap fouls (especially Rasho cos he's Euro :P )If Duncan gets in foul trouble all hope is lost. Bowen will play Kobe, who's in a shooting slump atm, which will hopefully make his job a little bit easier. So many tangibles in this series....but i predict Spurs 4-3

Other series
Minnesota vs Sac (4-3 Minny)

Pacers vs......... (4-1 Pacers)
Detroit vs NJN (4-2 Detroit)
Image
User avatar
Matt
 
Posts: 7236
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:48 pm
Location: Australia

Postby Fresh8 on Fri Apr 30, 2004 5:24 pm

Minnesota vs Sac (4-3 Minny)


Hey! The T-wolves havent won yet! Let me say that the Nuggets have a chance... even if it's small to turn the series around...if only Melo shot the ball better in game 4....

And about the Lakers... Shaq will need to dominate on both ends of the floor....Malone needs to play lockdown D on Duncan- Kobe needs to play smart against Bowen while Payton needs to establish himself as a force but I'm surprised not many ppl have mentioned Horry as a threat- to me I see him as dangerous vs. the Lakers.. isnt he averaging 14 ppg this playoffs??
User avatar
Fresh8
The poster formerly known as Sit
 
Posts: 14872
Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:19 pm

Postby Andrew on Sun May 02, 2004 1:34 pm

Looking ahead to the Lakers/Spurs series, Hall of Famer and former Laker Gail Goodrich has given his opinion:

"Ultimately, while my heart is in Los Angeles, I think San Antonio right now has a better basketball team. I have to pick San Antonio. I think it'll be a hard-fought series. I'd be surprised if it didn't go six or seven games.

"Also, I think the winner of this series represents the West in the Finals. I don't think that Minnesota or Sacramento can beat either of these teams in a seven-game series."


The article features further analysis, stating the three keys to victory for both teams.
User avatar
Andrew
Retro Basketball Gamer
Administrator
 
Posts: 115082
Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:51 pm
Location: Australia

Postby The Game on Sun May 02, 2004 3:51 pm

magius wrote:SPURS IN 7 ON A HORRY CLUTCH THREE WITH 0.1 SECONDS LEFT!!! WHOOHOOO!

you gave me nightmares... :scold:
User avatar
The Game
 
Posts: 736
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:16 pm
Location: Philippines

Postby Jackal on Mon May 03, 2004 11:30 am

First off, what a great game.

Congratulations to the San Antonio Spurs for playing great for all four quarters. :applaud:

Now, my thoughts on the Lakers' play.

Shaquille O'Neal: Shaq, you're not playing "how low can you go" with free throw percentages, the higer the better it is, you know. I think it would be wiser for O'Neal to try and establish position earlier so that there is more time available on the shot clock. Oh, front your man.

Karl Malone: He tried his best against Duncan, what can I say...it's Duncan after all. His passing to Shaq should improve. Four turnovers came from him while making bad lob passes to O'Neal.

Deaven George: Less turn overs, more made shots. Cut to the basket, be agressive.

Kobe Bryant: This man kept the Lakers in the game. Bowen was shutting him down? When? Where? Thank you Bryant. Keep being aggressive, keep driving. Dont shoot too much. Drive.

Gary Payton: What is he a 12 year old rookie? What the hell was he doing out there? We understand he has a big ego, but this was huge. Come on. Get with it, it's the playoffs man.

Bench was strictly ok.

Spurs:

(Y)(Y) To Rasho on defending Shaq, fronting him was a good idea.

Duncan...*sigh* Duncan.

Bowen: Two quick fouls, yet he managed to keep up most of the time.

Turkoglu (Sp?): An ok game, good steal from Rush.

Parker...damn it, what got into this kid? He plays extremely well for his age. Amazing.

Ginobili, the argentinian Bryant. His defense is great and his 2 3-pointers were great shots.

Horry, tried to do what he could do.

Willis, still going strong at his age.

Devin Brown, nice game overall. Did his part, knocked down open shots, what else can you ask for.

All in all, it was great defense played by both teams, only SA managed to turn up their intensity level. Good Job.

I look forward to game 2 of this series. It's going to be a long one. :)
User avatar
Jackal
 
Posts: 14877
Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2003 2:59 am

Postby j.23 on Mon May 03, 2004 11:49 am

sometimes i wonder what it would be like guarding someone like tony parker.. you have to be amazingly quick to blow by kobe bryant
User avatar
j.23
 
Posts: 2894
Joined: Mon May 26, 2003 6:09 pm
Location: nuts in your face

Postby Jackal on Mon May 03, 2004 11:57 am

Oh he certainly was, plus that weird little shot of his, looks like a floater/tear drop...I dont know what it is, but it's pretty damn hard to defend. :?
User avatar
Jackal
 
Posts: 14877
Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2003 2:59 am

Postby Alcoholic on Mon May 03, 2004 11:59 am

I watched the game and I have to say Duncan was just unstoppable. I wanted the Lakers to win but Malone played great defense only for Duncan to turn around and swish... nothing you could do there.

Hopefully in game 7 Robert Horry will shoot a game winning 3 and miss, then he'll get kicked to the Kings and play bench for Webber, then he'll blow another series winning 3 and get moved to another high rated team, etc etc etc then he'll retire.

I don't know but my theory is Payton never won w/ the Sonics because he choked in playoff games like this... :( Cmon Gary. Did he get any points?

One big problem for the spurs is how Parker just drives all the way to the hoop and makes a sweet layup... once NBA Live 2005 comes out we'll be seeing that alot more often...

I was surprised he blew by Bryant, I thought maybe he'd accidentaly bounce on Kobe's foot or something, but Kobe was backpedaling so I guess he was slower.

It was a good game I guess (blasted no calls!!!! :evil: ) but it would have been entertaining to see Tim Duncan play the point.. "I'm playing point forget this low post stuff." (I heard that somewhere don't remember where.
User avatar
Alcoholic
 
Posts: 1543
Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:19 am
Location: California

Postby Fresh8 on Mon May 03, 2004 6:21 pm

I think the Lakers need to work on closing games- again another dissapointing 4th quarter performance... it happened during regular season...and is happening now!

Kobe Bryant did good.... Malone/Shaq were bad but not as bad as the 'Glove'... wat the helll - he has not appearred in any games this postseason! It's ridiculoucs- wats happened to Gary Payton????
User avatar
Fresh8
The poster formerly known as Sit
 
Posts: 14872
Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:19 pm

Postby Andrew on Mon May 03, 2004 7:29 pm

Hopefully I'll get to see this game on tape later in the week, but looking at the boxscores I've noted some nice performances by Kobe, Duncan and Parker, with solid efforts from Malone, Shaq and Ginobili. (Numbers are not as exciting as actually watching basketball :wink:) Anyway, great effort by the Spurs to draw first blood. Even though it's only Game 1, we can conclude that the Spurs will not be swept in the second round. :wink:

Sit wrote:wat the helll - he has not appearred in any games this postseason! It's ridiculoucs- wats happened to Gary Payton????


I've only seen a couple of Lakers games this season, and if Game 1 was anything like the games I've seen, he's just an odd man out in the Lakers' gameplan. He can't be as effective as he was in Seattle or Milwaukee because he's not getting the opportunity to play the game that has produced the fine numbers he's posted in his career.

Needless to say, that's not the way to utilise the Glove. Jax would be foolish not to take advantage of all the talent he has on the floor, and he's not known for being foolish.
User avatar
Andrew
Retro Basketball Gamer
Administrator
 
Posts: 115082
Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:51 pm
Location: Australia

Next

Return to NBA & Basketball

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests