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Postby Wall St. Peon on Sun Oct 26, 2003 1:35 am

Oop, my bad, I thought Long Island was a bit closer to New York than East Rutherford. *shrug*

As for the Devils, they're good...the Islanders suck hard, and have for a long time...and I don't even follow hockey.
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Postby ShowMeTheMoney on Sun Oct 26, 2003 2:58 am

paul_pierce_the_truth wrote:
I seem to remember Tim Duncan, saying that he wouldn't resign with the Spurs unless the team moved from the Alamodome? (I forgot which, is the Alamadome the former or the current Spurs home?)


Show me some proof of this, I remember something about the players complaining about the size of the backdrop at the Alamodome, but I seriously doubt Tim Duncan demanded a new arena or else, it's not his style, after all he's not Jason Kidd, he has two rings, unlike the world's greatest point guard.



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He didn't exactly say outright that the Spurs better get a new arena or else, he just hinted at it and said that it would have been a factor in his decision. But as it turned out he re-signed with the Spurs anyway and they got a new arena. So everybody goes home smiling.
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Postby scubilete on Sun Oct 26, 2003 10:27 am

Oop, my bad, I thought Long Island was a bit closer to New York than East Rutherford.


I know, :wink:

As for the Devils, they're good...the Islanders suck hard, and have for a long time...and I don't even follow hockey.


I supposed you don't, I don't follow that game either, just used that cause the Islanders is the only team representing Long Island (Y) in any major sport, and the reason that they suck is not a good one for people here in the city not to know they even exist, lol.
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Postby BIG GREEN on Sun Oct 26, 2003 11:25 am

paul_pierce_the_truth aka Mike Davis: You sure are sippin on that haterade my friend :D. What players or events concerning the nba DO you like?
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Postby paul_pierce_the_truth on Sun Oct 26, 2003 12:28 pm

I enjoyed Vin Baker's nasty dunk on Alonzo Mourning the other night.
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Postby Stevan on Sun Oct 26, 2003 2:43 pm

paul_pierce_the_truth aka Mike Davis: You sure are sippin on that haterade my friend . What players or events concerning the nba DO you like?

LMAO BUSTED! I've been waiting for that :lol: :P
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Postby Dirtdog1- David on Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:12 pm

Vin Baker dog :shock: C'mon you are just like my boy, he swears Vin Baker will be back to his early days.
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Postby streakshooter on Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:50 pm

no matter what he says, paul pierce the truth is a bitter Celtic fan coz New Jersey makes it a point to feed crap to his Boston players for several years now.

kidd, if you get down to it, is a legitimate player of the Nets so he has every right to voice his agreement or otherwise. it's just his opinion anyway. this is a lot better than keeping quiet now than raising hell later when the move is forthcoming.

anyway, don't worry sour-graping fan, your celtics will continue to eat crap from jersey this season. i guarantee this one. then you can post another kidd hating thread next year same time. :P
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Postby paul_pierce_the_truth on Sun Oct 26, 2003 7:43 pm

Busted?

The fact that New Jersey has eliminated Boston twice, is not why I dislike Jason Kidd, it's partly based on his behavior with Phoenix, throwing a towl in Danny Ainge's face, punching his wife and partly to do with his complete smug behavior, the fact is, he is a low-class person in a great ballplayer's body, a well payed low-class person and it shows.

When you compare past so-called top point guards such as Magic Johnson and John Stockton, well not only were they much better than Kidd on the court, but off the court there is a huge difference. Magic may have contracted HIV, but anything that was done in the public was First Class and First Class is all John Stockton ever was. I guess being the best point guard in the NBA isn't what it used to be.

I can't think of a team since Isiah Thomas that had a superstar point guard that led his team to a title. Everyone decides it's important and thus he's a non-shooting superstar, who by last count was blown away by teams led by Tony Parker and Derek Fisher on the point.

Call it hating, but the guy really can't complain recieving $104 million.
He can say whatever he wants, but his loyality stinks, his jumpshot reaks and I also have the right to say whatever I feel, so long as it's reasonable.
I find it reasonable to say, shut and playball, the Nets just gave you one of the best deals in the league, what do they get? A threat to leave the team behind.

I never tried to mask who I was in this forum, not 3 years ago, not now.

Yes I hate Jason Kidd, but there are sound reasons for it, yes eliminating Boston sucks, but I disliked the guy years before this.

This is what rivals do, I am a Boston Fan and I hate the Nets, what do except? Doesn't mean I am ignorant to the fact that bitching about your team moving is one thing, saying stay put or else... is another.

Playball Kidd, just shut your mouth and playball!

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Postby scubilete on Sun Oct 26, 2003 11:40 pm

So you guys think the Nets will still eliminate the Celts in the playoffs? If so, then the Celts should send Pierce somewhere else, maybe to Memphis, that way, they will get rid of the huge $$$ Pierce is earning & still they will get the same results, being eliminated by the Nets. (Y)
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Postby paul_pierce_the_truth on Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:11 am

The above post is obviously ment to insight me.

Things to do...

1. Put this person on the same list with Jason Kidd.
2. Wonder why flaming me is okay.
3. Check what I said here. Did I try to flame?
4. Say sorry to the guy who made reference to Tim Duncan.

Sorry dude if Duncan said that stuff about an arena, It just doesn't sound like him.

If you are a fan of Jason Kidd, I am sorry for using harsh words and being to critical of him. But it doesn't seem like a freedom of speach issue, to me seems like a loyality issue, it seems he's a bit off center.

Paul Pierce being traded to Memphis.....
Well if Memphis gives Boston
Paul Gasol, Mike Miller, Jason Williams and a couple first round picks.
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Postby Eugene on Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:03 am

As much as I'd like to have a hometown team that I can enjoy, I'd really rather not have the Nets move to Long Island. The Island's really getting crowded with more and more people moving in every year (all those LI's the greatest place to live ads on TV really came back to bite us in the ass), and the last thing we need is more people clogging up the Long Island Expressway trying to catch the Nets in the Finals.

It doesn't look like it's going to happen anyway.

As for Jason Kidd... yes, Paul_Pierce_the_Truth, it's a damn shame that the best point guard in the league is also the best teammate to have in the locker room, one of the most competitive players in the league, and that he also had the character and courage to own up to his mistake in abusing his wife, apologize to her and the public, and personally took steps to rectify the situation by taking therapy. It's just too bad that he hasn't been arrested for DUI's or was an alcoholic, or a coke-head.

In fact, we really don't need people like him in the NBA; people who aren't perfect by anybody's standards, but is a man of enough character to take responsibility for his actions. We just can't have him setting an example for the kids, and showing them that while everyone is prone to making a mistake, a man takes responsibility for his actions.

Why can't we have more players like Lamar Odom, Anthony Mason, the entire Trailblazers team, and Rod Strickland?

You're right, Paul_Pierce_The_Truth, we just don't need Jason Kidd in the league, because he's a terrible person who said he didn't want to move to Long Island. Damn him to hell.

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Postby paul_pierce_the_truth on Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:48 am

Did I say he should not be in the NBA?
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Postby Dirtdog1- David on Mon Oct 27, 2003 5:40 am

I am a Spurs fan, and Tim did say that. Ohh well it worked and now they are the Champion's. :)



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Postby paul_pierce_the_truth on Mon Oct 27, 2003 5:46 am

and that he also had the character and courage to own up to his mistake in abusing his wife, apologize to her and the public, and personally took steps to rectify the situation by taking therapy


a man takes responsibility for his actions.


So it's a couragous thing to stand up and admit you fucked up, okay good job, it would be a better man to not punch your wife to begin with, I guess you are proud he got help. I stand by my statement that he is a self-absorbed jerk.
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Postby streakshooter on Mon Oct 27, 2003 6:26 pm

paul_pierce_the_truth wrote:I never tried to mask who I was in this forum, not 3 years ago, not now.

Yes I hate Jason Kidd, but there are sound reasons for it, yes eliminating Boston sucks, but I disliked the guy years before this.

This is what rivals do, I am a Boston Fan and I hate the Nets, what do except? Doesn't mean I am ignorant to the fact that bitching about your team moving is one thing, saying stay put or else... is another.


no matter how i disagree with you, still i thought you said the above quote well.

paul_pierce_the_truth wrote:So it's a couragous thing to stand up and admit you fucked up, okay good job, it would be a better man to not punch your wife to begin with, I guess you are proud he got help. I stand by my statement that he is a self-absorbed jerk.


well, people make mistakes and what's great is that there's an option to be forgiven if you take the correct steps to rectify the situation. kidd was decent enough to do just that and he deserves some acknowledgement. not everyone can do that and stay consistent.

a lot of other NBA players deserves your hate for past misjudgements as Eugene pointed out. why don't you just direct your hatred towards the right direction? Or maybe your Celtic fanaticism has blinded you and you can only see kidd, who BTW hasn't figured in any incident since that wife-battery thing?
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Postby paul_pierce_the_truth on Mon Oct 27, 2003 6:46 pm

Look I don't dislike you or anyone else in this forum (with a few excepts, you know who you are :wink: )

This all started with Kidd being a dickface in Phoenix, then hitting his wife, then saying Paul Pierce choked, now this crapola about Long Island and his house, I am just saying, no one gives a shit if Kidd has to drive to Long Island, except for Jason Kidd, he can afford a Limo everyday, hell he could fly if he wants to, it's not even that so much as threating to leave his team behind for doing what they feel is best for them, it is their team and not Kidd's, no matter what he or anyone thinks. It's a very expensive investment and it requires whatever they see fit. If Jason Kidd thinks no one can hear him bitch about it, they can and they understand him, but at the same time, they must do what they feel is the right thing, also they have noted his "I should just go to San Antonio...".

Does Kidd really believe an organization would consider giving up say an extra 20 or 30 million dollars in revenue so that Jason Kidd's son can attend the same 1st grade class?

If Phoenix offered Stephon Marbury back with Amare Stoudemire for Kidd and Martin, I think I would do it.

Sorry no hard feelings. I can't help myself when it comes to a few athletes like Derrick Jeter and Jason Kidd, I am a Boston fan and these people are pigfaced three-toed slops to me. I can't see it any other way right now.

It's not about other players, it's about Joumana and Jason, as a Boston fan I'd rather get poked in the eye with a butcher knife than look at either one of them, I am not psycho, I just feel for my teams, maybe Paul Pierce himself thinks Kidd is a cool guy, but somehow I doubt it.
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Postby Swoosh on Tue Oct 28, 2003 2:26 am

Though i agree with you on this that no one cares that Kidd has to drive further or his son has to go to another class, no one should except him and his family, the things is he aint sayin this to all of you, he is letting the board know he doesnt want this and every man still has the right to have his own opinion and making it aknowledgable(just like you have that right here on the forum :) ). And i also agree if i was a gm and they gave me marbury and stoudemire for kidd and k-mart, i wouldnt doubt for a second :wink: (that would be my first reaction though, after lots of considering you dont know just how much kidd can make a team better, which can be of more value then delivering the necessary points and assists, though marbury really matured)
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