The Official NLSC GS WARRIORS fans' thread.

[k-d]

Hi men.. I am joining Warriors fans' thread just now..
What do you think about Belinelli? I want to know which is your opinion, then I'll show mine.

[Fresh8]

I think the Warriors got a steal with Bellinelli. It's good for both parties. He gets to join a team that gets to exploit his strengths. On the Warriors, they are deep enough for him to have a go and if he isn't having a good time, there's plenty of guards in the rotation to cover for him. All the while, he can come in and cover for anyone else on the team.

Great shooter and can attack the rim if needed to. He really fits on the team and the team fits for him.

[Goldenstatewarrior]

I definitely agree. For Belinelli, I'm worried about his attack to the basket and then his finishing ability. It doesn't seem strong at this point, but it will definitely improve as he gets stronger and comfortable in the NBA.

[Fresh8]

He's still pretty young... I would say he's like Manu Ginobili... But a better shooter. With a bit of experience, he should be able to refine that aspect of his game. Still... on the Warriors, he will get enough open looks and make his jumpers... and thats the most important part for him!

[k-d]

He is as all you said.. but take care, he can score many many points in a row, but when he is playing bad, he can look like a bad bad shooter..
Anyway, he's definitely the steal of the draft. I'm a big fan of "Beli".

[Fresh8]

I would imagine you would be.

So is Bargnani right. Saying Beli is better than he is?

[cyanide]

So is Bargnani right. Saying Beli is better than he is?

Not sure if you phrased that sentence right, but when did Bargnani say that Bellinelli is better than him?

[Fresh8]

I remember reading in an interview with Bargnani where he said there were good and young players who were better than him who hadn't made the transition to the NBA yet. And said, 'look out next year for Bellineli. I will need to search for it.

EDIT: I could be wrong but for some reason it's stuck in my head for a while...

EDIT 2: Maybe I was mistaken and misread something or just remembered it wrong... so my bad... all i could find was:

Andrea Bargnani: Yes. I was proud of the fact that I was the first one. There are a lot of good, young Italian players out there, so it is not surprising that there are Italian NBA prospects.

[Its_asdf]

Players like Belinelli are easier to find than a player like Bargnani. I wouldn't be suprised if Belinelli made a bigger immediate impact, but every time I watch Bargnani I can't help but giggle like a girl. He just oozes out potential with everything he does on the court.

[Fresh8]

I've read people write that Bargnani was more ready to jump to the NBA as a rookie... however, I feel that Belinelli being on a team like Golden State will help to hide a bit of that particular 'weakness'.

[Rocky Balboa]

I think Belineli might be best point guard in Warriors! he skill and he is really hope of many peoples!Marko can improve his skill more and more in NBA but it is have 1 problem-his habit in NBA! So he gifted player!

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I think Belineli might be best point guard in Warriors!

Marco isn't a point gaurd and if he was he couldn't touch Baron Davis.

[Rocky Balboa]

I think Belineli might be best point guard in Warriors!

Marco isn't a point gaurd and if he was he couldn't touch Baron Davis.

oh... so who is he then? Shooting guard? Rising Star? It's all the same i think he is concreter for Baron!

[Its_asdf]

He's probably a combo guard that could potentially play the 3. I don't see him getting that many minutes at the point and Monta Ellis is the team's future shooting guard though. What's a concreter?

[Rocky Balboa]

He's probably a combo guard that could potentially play the 3. I don't see him getting that many minutes at the point and Monta Ellis is the team's future shooting guard though. What's a concreter?

he could concrete compete with Baron! or if he couldn't then maby could compete with Ellis!

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Marco is not a point gaurd. He's less of a point gaurd than Ray Allen.

To think Marco can compete with Baron Davis, one of the best PG's in the NBA and arguable the most talented of any PG in the league is stupid. Especially when theres Monta Ellis playing some point as well.

[maceo24]

Marco is not a point gaurd. He's less of a point gaurd than Ray Allen.

To think Marco can compete with Baron Davis, one of the best PG's in the NBA and arguable the most talented of any PG in the league is stupid. Especially when theres Monta Ellis playing some point as well.

Word.

Baron Davis is better than people may ever realize, and thats crying shame. He carried that team with sheer heart last year.

Left to his own devices, I honestly cant think of single point guard, on earth, that could shut him down. He's what Stephon Marbury should have become.

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Yeah, people forget about players when they get injured. Everyone will realize that next year when Chris Paul tears shit up. It went from - "The Jazz made a mistake picking Deron", to "Deron Williams is the third best point gaurd in the league". Deron Williams is good, but I still think Chris Paul is a cut above.

About Baron, if he had a consistant jump shot and could stay healthy he would be a MVP candidate every year. I remember when he was killing the league back around 2003 or 2004, that's the last I really heard big news about him (barring the trade).

I mean he's 6-3, as strong as any point gaurd, or gaurd for that matter in the league. Quick as hell and we all know how athletic he is. Amazing ballhandling and passing skill, can get to the hole whenever he wants. Scores anywhere from the rim to deep threes, it's just his outside shot isn't very consistant.

He's actually like a super athletic Jason Kidd, which is damn scary.

It's funny how alot of people just realized how good he was after his playoff performance last season, when he was putting up around 20/4/8 for the two or three years before this season - and no one talked about him. He's been an NBA All Star just twice, and made the All-NBA 3rd Team once. Sucks what injuries do to some players.

[Fresh8]

B Diddy: One of the most underrated players for the past two seasons due to unjury. I must admit that guys like hi mand P Dub had fallen off my radar. It's sorta hard to follow if you are injured all the time. I guess a lot of guys get that.

If healthy, he's one of the top maybe... 15-20 players in the league. It's a pity his body keeps breaking down.

Deron Williams is good, but I still think Chris Paul is a cut above.

I don't think Chris Paul is a cut above but we shall see. Deron, to his own credit, played a lot better in his second season - after getting ujsed to Sloan's sytem and getting Sloan's trust. Paul was injured and it's not fair for people to knock him off either. I still think they are even. Until either proves me wrong this season.

Oh yeah... to the disillusioned fellow in this thread... Marco is as much of a PG as Stallone is not on roids.

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B Diddy: One of the most underrated players for the past two seasons due to unjury. I must admit that guys like hi mand P Dub had fallen off my radar. It's sorta hard to follow if you are injured all the time. I guess a lot of guys get that.

If healthy, he's one of the top maybe... 15-20 players in the league. It's a pity his body keeps breaking down.

Yeah, reminds me of the situation with guys like Terrell Brandon. Most people nowadays would be like "Who?". He was a fantastic talent (not to the extent of a guy like Baron though, but very reach are at Barons level in terms of individual talent), until his body broke down for the last time. Pretty good scorer, but once of the top passing PG's in a long time. At 5-11, he'd be a top 3 or 4 PG today, and probably right up there with Nash and Kidd in assist numbers. Averaging 10 APG in 34 minute a game is pretty damn impressive.

Yet, alot of people have already forgotten about him.

We shall see what happens with the CP/Deron situation soon enough.

[maceo24]

Terrel Brandon, Pooh Richardson, even Rod Strickland flew under the radar most of their careers because of injuries. Anybody remember Pooh Richardson?

Brandon was an assist machine. Granted he was feeding a hungry KG...

Baron Davis is one of maybe 6-7 players I can say honestly plays TOO hard. His style of play is so pedal to the metal that he hits "the wall" before he should. Then he tries to break through that wall by not resting and that's when he hurts himself. If Nelly is smart he'll keep Baron at 33-35 mpg, to make sure he's healthy come post season time.

As for the Kidd reference, its not all that hard to see the influence, Kidd is to Baron what Gary Payton was to Kidd back in the day. They all grew up playing in the same areas of Central CA.

[k-d]

News from Eurobasket 07 about: Marco Belinelli.
Italy defeats Turkey 84-75 after an OT.

Belinelli's stats: 5-8 2pt field goals, 1-6 3pt fg, 4-4 ft; and 3 rebounds + 4 assists.
He played 34 minutes. In the first half he played very bad: 0-2 from two and 0-2 from three. In the second half, he got up: 4 penetrations, 1 three pointer, and a huge one-handed slam over the entire turkey defense. I'd definitely say that it's the play of the game: it set the tie at 68, with 1'30'' remaining. That is the Beli I wanna see always. Unfortunately sometimes he can play very bad.
But if he goes on fire, he's almost unstoppable, especially in a contest like Golden State's one, with run and gun, run and gun, run and gun,..

Soon the video with the highlights of the game, dudes.

[Goldenstatewarrior]

I got some good news Warrior fans. Someone very important is coming back to lead us to the promise land again. Take a look and discuss please. Peace.


http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_6889155

Nelson, Warriors a match
Veteran NBA coach relents and accepts Golden State's offer
By Geoff Lepper
STAFF WRITER

Article Launched: 09/13/2007 10:45:06 PM PDT


OAKLAND -- Nellieball isn't slowing down just yet.

Don Nelson, the coach who last season helped vault the Warriors back into playoff prominence after a 12-year absence from the Golden State bench, has reached an agreement in principle with the team on a reworked deal that will bring him back for at least one more season.

Nelson, who originally signed a three-year deal in August 2006, relented and accepted the team's initial offer made several weeks ago. His base salary for each of the remaining two years will jump from $3.1 million to $5.1 million, but the final season is now a team option rather than guaranteed cash.

"I'm excited to come back and coach the team," Nelson said. "The Bay Area's perfect for us (Nelson and wife Joy), I love working with Mully (executive vice president Chris Mullin), I love the staff. There's so many positives here."

The deal, which could be signed as early as today, ensures that the second-winningest coach in NBA history -- and the only coach to lead the Warriors above the .500 mark in the last two decades -- will be on hand to guide a roster that has been specifically tailored to his up-tempo, small-ball preferences.

Team president Robert Rowell confirmed that a deal is close but said some particulars are yet to be locked in.

"We are definitely rounding third base," Rowell said. "We obviously have some details to work out, but we feel strongly that this is moving in the direction we all want this to move."

Nelson's lawyer, John O'Connor, countered the Warriors' offer last week with a deal that included a partial guarantee in 2008-09, but the team didn't bite.
"It went on long enough," Nelson said of the talks. "Negotiations could have gone on until training camp started, but I didn't want that."

In taking the deal, Nelson appears to be losing $1.1 million in guaranteed money, but he said there is a provision in place that will grant him a five-year consulting deal worth $1 million total if the team chooses not to exercise its option for 2008-09.

That offer could be on the table even if Nelson, 67, does coach beyond next season.

"It's a gesture on our part to keep Don a part of the franchise, because we appreciate and respect what he's done for us and what he means to the Warriors," Rowell said.

There are also $1.5 million worth of bonuses available to Nelson each season, but those begin to kick in only if the team reaches the Western Conference finals.

Nelson said he alerted team leaders Baron Davis and Stephen Jackson to his return. The news was celebrated by recently re-signed forward Matt Barnes, who produced career-best numbers under Nelson last season.

"He was the driving force behind our season and when I heard that he might not come back, I was disappointed," Barnes said. "Now all the pieces have fallen back into place and it's time to get back to work."

Contact Geoff Lepper at glepper@bayareanewsgroup.com