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Postby Christopherson on Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:23 pm

Woah now. The only reason I just got "shut down pretty hard" was because the content of my post was so misconstrued it led to that absurd rant.

First off, let me start off with the coommunism comment. It was meant to be humorous, perhaps my use of emoticons isn't up to par with internet forum ettiquete. So your little rant their was well, retarded.

Secondly, where in my post did I mention anything about convincing people to let you do something like kill people? Anywhere? Am I blind? I wrote about convicing someone to compensate you monetarily. That is a long ways away from slaughtering millions of people.

Let me state my point a little bit more clearly. Lets say Joe has a job. Lets say Joe is very good at his job. Joe thinks that he deserves to make more money than he currently does. Joe goes to his boss to negotiate. He tells his boss how good at his job he is and how much better he can do it than someone else in his place. Joe tells his boss that he believes his is worth X amount of dollars to the company while some average replacement would be worth Y amount of dollars to the company. Joe then tells his boss to choose which person to employ. If Joe's boss agrees to with Joe and pays him X amount of dollars, then no matter what X is, Joe is worth it to his boss.

Lets use a less abstract example now. Say Kevin Garnett goes to a host of NBA owners and tells them about all of his good qualities and what he can do for their organization. He can sell this many more tickets and that many more jerseys than an average replacement. He can help the organization get a bigger television contact, etc. He tells the owner that he is worth, say 20 million dollars to the organization. He can make the owner at least that much more money, probably more. He then points out that the owner could hire some other person who can't do the things he can do. That person can't make the owner nearly as much money as Kevin Garnett can. So how is Kevin Garnett not worth the 20 million dollars?

In a sense it is a matter of supply and demand. People like Joe and Kevin Garnett are in very short supply and very high demand. This means they are worth a lot of money.

The same principle occurs when immagrant workers undercut people at low skilled jobs. They talk the the boss and say, I can do just as good a job as the person you have hired, only I will do it for less money.
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Postby magius on Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:51 pm

Secondly, where in my post did I mention anything about convincing people to let you do something like kill people? Anywhere? Am I blind? I wrote about convicing someone to compensate you monetarily. That is a long ways away from slaughtering millions of people.

what you said and say (and continue to say throughout the rest of the post) implies the said logic, i understood it the first time, no need to reiterate. if you understood critical thinking you would know that it did and still results in the same reasoning - that if one can justify ones actions then ones actions are, in result, justified. You can't simple apply this logic to a specific occurence and say forget the rest, because its foundation is inherently flawed.

First off, let me start off with the coommunism comment. It was meant to be humorous, perhaps my use of emoticons isn't up to par with internet forum ettiquete. So your little rant their was well, retarded.

good for you.
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Postby Sauru on Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:16 pm

i do believe that magius lives to argue with everyone he can lol
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Postby magius on Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:07 am

Sauru wrote:i do believe that magius lives to argue with everyone he can lol

i disagree....

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Postby Matt on Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:24 pm

long live communism!!!!
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