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Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:51 am
Thank goodness that option wasn't given to Thomas then, he'd trade Kidd.
Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:53 am
RJ. I still don't trust his J and IMO the only thing he can do is dunk.
Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:55 am
I say VC just because his trade value is up, if he gets traded to a team without a decent PG, hes not gonna be as good as he is right now.
Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:01 am
well that goes for all players. PG's make the world go round
Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:08 am
I'd trade Carter. Jefferson is younger and they are almost as good as each other. Also Carter's trade value is way higher.
Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:14 am
Trade Carter.
Jefferson is younger, plays defense and when he isn't hitting his shots he takes the ball to the rim. He may never develop a "Vince Carter shot" but he has been getting better every year and will eventually be an All-Star.
Plus, they will get more in return for Carter and they won't have to worry about Jefferson ever not giving 110% on the court every game.
Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:21 am
I just don't like RJ.
Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:11 am
I admit I'd trade RJ. I'm starting to think that he has peaked. Good defensive player, but he just isn't a shooter and I don't think he ever will be.
Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:26 am
RJ's shot and all-around game is improving with every season passed and as 25 years old swingman of 6'8 (6'7.25 without his shoes on, 6'8.5 with shoes, 7 foot wingspan, so he is taller and as long as Josh Smith) he has a lot of potential left. The problem with the Nets is, that they have three All-Star caliber player, which cannot work. They need to trade one of them for a athletic big man. And - as I said - VC is the one who should be traded. He is the inferior defender, the softer one and more injury prone.
Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:34 am
VanK wrote:VC. He is more injury prone, more of a drama queen and doesn't play D. Jefferson is still improving (a lot) and could very well end up being of the better/best all-around players in the L. He'll never sell as many jerseys as Half Man Half Injury, but he'll certainly become a superstar in his own right. And for that to come, he needs more ball and that means someone needs to go and - by my opinion - that's Carter. They could get a decent big man in return.
VC's been relatively injury-free while with the Nets.
Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:33 pm
It has nothing to do with talent level. VC doesn't run as hard as RJ on the break, isn't as good of a defender, and is too much of the focal point in the offense. RJ and Kidd have that chemistry, so trading VC is the only reasonable option.
I think the real problem is their frontcourt problems. They have no defense in the paint, causing the Nets' perimeters defenders to collapse towards the inside, and opponents get open shots. They aren't getting any stops as well, leading to little-none fastbreak oppurtunities. The reason their starting lineup from 01 to 04 was effective was because of their great defense leading to fastbreak oppurtunities almost every possession. Kidd and RJ excel on the break more than the halfcourt set, and that's why this team is struggling so much.
The Nets should look to obtain a defensive minded 4 or 5 who could rebound well, block shots, and/or run the floor well. They should look for a trade scenario without Carter, and if necessary, with him.
Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:45 pm
John WB wrote:VC's been relatively injury-free while with the Nets.
He played a season without an injury (although I remember thathe hurt something at the beginning of the 2004/05 season). That could be just a fluke.
Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:11 pm
It all depnds what you want back. If you want someone great in return you have to trade vinsanty , but if you just need to trade one it got to be RJ.
Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:32 am
I wouldn't trade neither of them,rather try to package some of the other players for a defensive big,Carter and Jefferson can play together,I think that the reason why theyn't playing well at the moment is too many new players are in the team,they have to come together as a team,that is the real problem,breaking the trio would be a dumb move in my opinion.
They could never get the amount of talent that Carter and Jefferson have in return,because talented big men are like gold,nobody wants to trade them away.
Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:32 am
VanK wrote:RJ's shot and all-around game is improving with every season passed and as 25 years old swingman of 6'8 (6'7.25 without his shoes on, 6'8.5 with shoes, 7 foot wingspan, so he is taller and as long as Josh Smith)
This is the first I've heard of Jefferson being any taller than 6'7"...where'd you read this?
Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:56 am
By the looks of things those are official measurements, most likely from the draft combine.
Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:01 am
Yup, that is correct.
(If anyone has official predraft measurements dated before 2000, please let me know.)
Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:43 pm
I'd trade VC, cause his contract is bigger, and he is still popular... you can probably get 2 quality players in exchange for him...
Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:48 pm
Carter because he is a bigger name and would be worth more.
Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:53 pm
It has probably been said already but I would trade Vince because I just feel that RJ gives alot more on both sides of the court plus Vince Carter's name can get you something worthwhile if you traded him.
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