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Allan Houston had another big game!

Postby Chris Ma on Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:16 pm

Allan Houston just scored 50 points against the Bucks, who scank all 18 free throws, his career high! he also made 6 out of 14 from beyong the yard and register 0 turnover!!
what a game!
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Postby TheBob on Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:26 pm

Oh my...thats two games this year he's put up 50+ maybe he can be a top shooting guard like he said he was when he signed that HUGE contract. He needs to be more consistent though...
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Postby Chris Ma on Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:08 pm

he's amazing shooting ability! a pure pure shooter because he can't run well wtih the ball......if he's in form, it's very hard to stop him getting 40 or 50 points in my opinion.

so, if we talk about pure shooter, who is the purest shooter???

1.) Allan Houston
2.) Reggie Miller
3.) Ray Allen
4.) Glen Rice (well, i mean the one back in 1997)
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Postby Rens on Mon Mar 17, 2003 7:45 pm

Allen is better than all of them.. the best pure shooter? Chris Mullin?
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Postby Scary Hedo on Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:00 pm

glenn rice in his old days!!
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Postby hetoft on Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:28 pm

Yeah, very great game for Houston :) .
For the pure shooters;
What about the Person brothers? Or the Price's? Or the Barry's?
Or Peja?
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Postby Chris Ma on Tue Mar 18, 2003 1:25 am

Psychopaticola wrote:Yeah, very great game for Houston :) .
For the pure shooters;
What about the Person brothers? Or the Price's? Or the Barry's?
Or Peja?


maybe wesley person!

but about Price or Peja, they are not pure shooters as they got some good skills!
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Postby mp3 on Tue Mar 18, 2003 4:56 am

its about time :!:
he's had his moments in the past, but now he is really living up to his contract
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Postby scubilete on Tue Mar 18, 2003 9:48 am

Dan wrote:Allen is better than all of them.. the best pure shooter? Chris Mullin?


I agree Allen is better but notice that Allen is not getting better while Houston is, this is the best year Houston has had, his shooting performance is superb and not just that, but you better don't give him one foot of space cause it looks like he never misses.

Regarding pure shooter, if you are going to mention some old ones, I would say Alex English.
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Postby Boyk on Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:01 pm

what the hell
scub, how can you say Allen aint improving. ahem! his numbers are all improved after the trade, i think thats improvement.
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Postby scubilete on Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:35 pm

Laddas wrote:how can you say Allen aint improving. ahem! his numbers are all improved after the trade, i think thats improvement.


If after the trade he's playing better that's not improvement, that's being happy and comfortable. He's the same as he was in Milw but there he didn't want to play like that. Do you think he improved his game in 2 days of travel from one city to another? No. He's just playing better cause he feels better there than where he was before.
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Postby Rens on Wed Mar 19, 2003 12:46 am

scubilete wrote:Do you think he improved his game in 2 days of travel from one city to another? No. He's just playing better cause he feels better there than where he was before.

Which is improvement.

And to say Houston is improving... I'd say he's just about the same as he always was. Only his scoring has gone up a but, but he's also shooting more, against the same percentage as last season and a percentage point below his career average. He's already taken, and made, more three pointers than the entire last season, that's more than likely has something to do with his scoring going up.
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Postby Chris Ma on Wed Mar 19, 2003 1:51 am

scubilete wrote:
Dan wrote:Allen is better than all of them.. the best pure shooter? Chris Mullin?

Regarding pure shooter, if you are going to mention some old ones, I would say Alex English.


i might say Larry Bird is better!
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Postby scubilete on Wed Mar 19, 2003 9:54 am

Dan wrote:I'd say he's just about the same as he always was. Only his scoring has gone up a but, but he's also shooting more


Well Dan, I don't know if he ever scored 50 before this season, did he?, Twice?, to determine if the player is in his best season you don't see if a player has shot more or less than before cause that's how they get their points, at the end of the season you are not going to look at Kobe's or T-Mac shooting attempts to know that this has been the best season they have had, so why should you make the exception with Allan?

This has been the best season Allan has had even if you don't believe it that way, that's a fact. And that also means improvement cause like stated with others they have improved their game in scoring, Allan did the same.
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Postby Chris Ma on Wed Mar 19, 2003 3:41 pm

even if this is not his best season, i would say this is by far the best in his NY career....today he scored 36 against the spurs to clinch the game!
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Postby Boyk on Thu Mar 20, 2003 1:21 am

scubilete wrote:
Dan wrote:I'd say he's just about the same as he always was. Only his scoring has gone up a but, but he's also shooting more


Well Dan, I don't know if he ever scored 50 before this season, did he?, Twice?, to determine if the player is in his best season you don't see if a player has shot more or less than before cause that's how they get their points, at the end of the season you are not going to look at Kobe's or T-Mac shooting attempts to know that this has been the best season they have had, so why should you make the exception with Allan?

This has been the best season Allan has had even if you don't believe it that way, that's a fact. And that also means improvement cause like stated with others they have improved their game in scoring, Allan did the same.


no we are not gonna look at kobes or t-macs shot attmepts, coz to get 30ppg we already know they would put up shots.
but Houston is only getting 22ppg compared to the 30. and he is ranked 12th in attempts and shooting .439%, that is why the shot attempts was brought up.
but other than that, then yes i agree that this is houstons best year in his career, i mean hes even given them a chance for the playoffs, and spree of course.
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Postby scubilete on Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:41 am

Laddas wrote:but Houston is only getting 22ppg compared to the 30. and he is ranked 12th in attempts and shooting .439%


Well, let me see if you would understand what I'm going to explain here. Those 2 players that are getting 30+ shooting attempts & %=(Kobe=1,574, FG%=0.45, FT%=0.83, 3FG%=0.37), (T-mac=1,500, FG%=0.45, FT%=0.80, 3FG%=0.38). wouldn't you consider that Houston shooting percentage is a little lower cause in difference of those two he's a 3pt shooter?, Houston=1,240, FG%=0.44, FT%=0.92, 3FG%=0.40.

Even like that Houston has shot less than those 2, that's why he's just scoring 22 like you said. So if you take the percentage of Houston like Dan has done it before and compare the shooting attempts & hit, I bet Houston would be scoring 35+ ppg, so those 2 guys are not that good after all, right? Yes, they are good but you can't compare the guys cause Houston mission is not score 40 every nite, he's doing his job very well.

You know those 2 guys for spectacular dunks and plays, what should be easier to dunk the ball or hit a 3?, let's see?, how many attempts do you think they need to dunk the ball & how many attempts do they need to hit a 3?

The case is Houston feels confident of his shooting, something that was not happening few years before. Again, that's the improvement, that's why clutch shooters are so valuable, cause they are not affraid of shooting the ball, something everyone would love to have in their team. I'm not saying Houston is a clutch shooter cause yet hasn't done it consistently but knowing that he's shooting with confidence makes me happy cause that's what everyone should be expecting from him.
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Postby Boyk on Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:00 pm

he should take it to the hoop more still.
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Postby mp3 on Sun Mar 23, 2003 9:51 pm

on another note, has anyone noticed how inconsistent spree is, he has one big game then disappears. on the 9th march he had 20 points, on the 11th he had 14 points, on the 14th he had 11 points, on the 16th he had 10 points, on the 18th he had 17 points, on the 19th he had 8 points, on the 21th he had 22 points and then last night he had 7 points on 3-12 shooting, while playing 40.8mpg over the 8 game above. if the knicks are going to make the playoffs than they are going to need better from spree.

also, what's the deal with lee Nailon? when spree was out early this year lee had some big games but now the only time he gets off the bench is to go take a piss.
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Postby Chris Ma on Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:08 am

mp3 wrote:also, what's the deal with lee Nailon? when spree was out early this year lee had some big games but now the only time he gets off the bench is to go take a piss.


the knicks would never leave spree on the bench
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Postby TheBob on Mon Mar 24, 2003 1:27 am

Chris Ma wrote:
mp3 wrote:also, what's the deal with lee Nailon? when spree was out early this year lee had some big games but now the only time he gets off the bench is to go take a piss.


the knicks would never leave spree on the bench


I don't think that's what he meant. I think he just wants Nailon to get more court time.
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