Jordan or Chamberlin

Chamberlain or Jordan??? Again?

Center versus guard... 7' 1" versus 6' 6"

Why not Chamberlain or Olajuwon? or Chamberlain or Shaq?

Actually, it depends on the fan's point of view or preferences...

Both of them are great players, both are record holders, both are champions... but personally, I prefer Michael Jordan because he has a bigger heart, a more determined competitor, and has a bigger paycheck and endorsements!

Had Michael Jordan played in the 60's he would have averaged 50 ppg as well.

How so?

Their'd be more posessions, that's the only reason to tell the truth....

Their'd be more posessions, that's the only reason to tell the truth....

... and shot attempts, I agree... But somehow I don't see a guard ever veing able to score 50ppg.

it was a different era. if jordan had played then he would have grown up playing different people and learning from different people. who knows what his game would have been like.

but lets assume he was exactly the same, no change what so ever. i dont think it would be his ppg that would sky rocket, i think it would be his defense and assists. those bastards could shoot. jordan dribble drives then kicks and he just bagged a easy assist. his defensive preasure would most certainly intimidate most players. then again think of the time, and even though it was wrong, back in the 60's he never would have gotten the treatment he got during his time.

The defense was totally different back then. There were no great perimeter defenders. If you put Steve Kerr in that Era he might have been one of their all time greats. Thats just how weak 90% of the defenders were on the perimeter then.

its true, but you have to go beyond that to the rules changes and stuff. the game was overall played and coached differently. wilt would never average 50 a game now simple cause no coach would let him shoot enough to do it, no matter how good he was. hard to compare players from different era.

Its like hard to compair the 2 because they played at different times but I think Jordan was better because he played against better guys.

Anyways this thread became big it was good to read some of ur posts

... and shot attempts, I agree... But somehow I don't see a guard ever veing able to score 50ppg.

Well if you look at Jordan's highest PPG season, and roughly compare the pace, and also looking at the fact that Jordan was a more efficient scorer than Wilt when he scored 50 PPG, it's definately possible. Remember Wilt was playing about 48 MPG, and Jordan was a guy who had the stamina to do that, he was no Tractor Traylor, but no coach is going to leave a star on the floor when not needed, and they wouldn't do for Wilt either if he was playing now.

When he averaged 37.1 PPG, he only played 40 MPG. Per 48 minutes, that's 44.5 PPG. Now consider he was also playing in a slower pace game in comparison to Wilt, if he was out there 48 MPG, and still trying to score even when games were over, it's definately possible. The only thing is that scoring 50 PPG just seems like a stat padding thing...

it was a different era. if jordan had played then he would have grown up playing different people and learning from different people. who knows what his game would have been like.

but lets assume he was exactly the same, no change what so ever. i dont think it would be his ppg that would sky rocket, i think it would be his defense and assists. those bastards could shoot. jordan dribble drives then kicks and he just bagged a easy assist. his defensive preasure would most certainly intimidate most players. then again think of the time, and even though it was wrong, back in the 60's he never would have gotten the treatment he got during his time.

In the 60's? I don't know, the FG% in the 60's was very low outside of big men. In the 70's, the shooting improved a whole lot, but in the 60's, people still had some weird releases. Look at a guy like Wilt as a rookie, he took the most shots on the team [a lot of shots], shot 46% from the field, yet the team as a whole shot 40.9%, and their were only 2 other players on his team that shot over 40%. It wasn't till about 67-68 when it picked up, and their weren't so many perimeter players shooting under 40%.

FG, that's a great point about Jordan's 37 being roughly equal to Wilt's in terms of pace of points-per-minute.

You have to remember also that double-teaming was against the rules when Wilt played. Imagine late 80's shot-happy Jordan with no Jordan Rules to keep him in check. It would've been ugly.

Wilt would've been like David Robinson or Olajuwon in today's game. 26 or 27 points per, 11 boards, 2 or 3 assists and 1 or 2 blocks.