For Lakers fans esp Bryant fans

[Micchy_boy]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/s ... id=1915843

for a change, a pro-kobe article.

[Matt]

that article is based on 2,3 games. We'll see what it's like after the team experiences a 5+ game losing streak. Surely Kobe will at times get frustrated by his teammates if they keep missing their shots.

[j.23]

ric made some good points there.. it's really not a good idea to be skeptical about kobe.. having said that, i think he'll figure out something within the next couple months.. unlike lakers past, he has only played with these guys around 10 times (?) compared to 4-5 years. i don't see the lakers missing the playoffs, they'll make it probably as the 6th or 7th seed

[Sauru]

that article is based on 2,3 games. We'll see what it's like after the team experiences a 5+ game losing streak. Surely Kobe will at times get frustrated by his teammates if they keep missing their shots.

it would also be nice if kobe would start hitting his shots also. only good thing he got going for him right now is his ability to get to the line, and that is helping his ppg. his shooting % is crap right now.

[Matthew]

Or by taking only four first-half shots -- and 14 overall -- when it became clear Denver couldn't defend either Chris Mihm diving to the rim or Brian Cook picking and popping his sweet J.

Just think about this: If shaq was still there, and the lakers were 1-2, everyone would would be saying what a horrible start to the season it is for the lakers. I'm starting to really doubt if they can make the playoffs. Other guys have to step up.

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Actually, Brian Cook DID make some sweet midrange Js during that game. Something he was very good at during the preseason. Still a horrible defender tho.

I expected a start like this, you have what...8/9 new players on the team, you run a new offense and you get a new coaching staff. It will take some time to get to know this current gameplay and get used to play with eachother as a new team. About 2 months ago I made a thread about how your favorite team will play troughout the season, and I said it then that it will take some time and they will probably start the season with a couple of losing streaks and maybe a losing record after a handfull of games.

his shooting % is crap right now.

Im not saying that he takes the best shots possible, but his below avarage FG% is also caused because he draws the foul alot and tries to make a hard "And One" move. Which counts for a FGA aswell.

I still want to see how the Lakers will play once everyone is healthy. For now, Im not worried at all.

[Fresh8]

Wasnt the article written when we were 1-1?
Would the article's message be different?

Anyways- I've read a lot of articles that i agree with and as Spurs Coach Pop said, "The Lakers are new and they will need time to get going..." He also said, now its someone else's team to win... i guess thats true

As for Kobe I read that him, Lamar and Caron all tried to beat guys off the dribble... how can they do that to win? Wheres the teamwork...

EDIT: Karl Malone is reportedly planning a return next month.. but he will also decide, Play OR Retire! hooray

[Jackal]

All I can say is I'm glad they're doing as well as they are.

Brian Cook has always had a nice jumper, always had horrible defense too. Still does.

Anyways, props to Kobe's way of playing & to the rest of the Lakers new squad.

[Fresh8]

Also, the team is extremely new... 9 new guys so basically the team needs time to learn. But Kobe and lamar need to find ways to compliment each other... i dont know how though

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As for Kobe I read that him, Lamar and Caron all tried to beat guys off the dribble... how can they do that to win? Wheres the teamwork...

When you beat defenders off the dribble, the helper goes the the player with the ball most of the times which creates open teammates on the weakside who can take open shots. It would be nice if those shots are actually falling.

[Steve04]

In their present form the Lakers are going nowhere. However, if they get Malone and Divac they can compete with the beasts of the west.

[VCFAN]

Im not saying that he takes the best shots possible, but his below avarage FG% is also caused because he draws the foul alot and tries to make a hard "And One" move. Which counts for a FGA aswell.

I always thought when you get fouled ona field goal attempt miss it doesn't count as a field goal attempt. If I'm correct how would this lower your field goal % then? Please correct me if Im wrong.

[Alcoholic]

Yes, I also believed that being fouled in the act of shooting wasn't counted as an attempt (if you miss).

And by that and one move, are you talking about where he swings the ball when the defender doesn't back off? He usually get's that call, but one time he didn't, and he airballed.

[Sauru]

if you are fouled and miss the attempt does not count. if you make the shot it counts.

[Colin]

if you are fouled and miss the attempt does not count. if you make the shot it counts.

that's what I thought.

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Really? Because when I follow the Live game casts on espn.com, everytime a player who takes a shot and gets fouled it counts as a missed shot

[Sauru]

yeah it only counts as a FG if the basket is good.

[j.23]

^^^ learned that myself from years of playing nba live

[VCFAN]

So when kobe shoots like 25 shots a game but you see that he has something like 16 frethrow atempts as well he really attempted like 33 field goals that game unless you count technical foul free throws and shit like that into it.

[Sauru]

yeah. so basicly he is shooting alot and doing so with a shitty percentage.

[Jackal]

Nice number of posts.

Allen Iverson shoots alot of shots at a bad percentage.

I'm not implying anything though, so don't get the wrong idea's. I just wanted to mention Iverson since I've not mentioned him in awhile.

[Fresh8]

Shite... i always thought, for example when Kobe shot 5/15 and attempted a lot of FT... he was fouled on 6-8 of his attempts.. lol

boy was i wrong!

[Sauru]

iverson has been someone who has bugged me for years jackal. he would put up any and everything and miss a ton of the time yet people called him top 3 in nba. scoring alot of points does not help the team if you did it while shooting only 30%. dont get me wrong, kobe is still helping the lakers by getting to the line, something iverson is also good at.

[Matt]

although given AI's options i don't think anyone cared. when AI heats up though you can't stop him