Who has the better supporting cast, Kobe or T-Mac?

by **Sauru** on Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:50 am

][]]RAGON wrote:tmac simply coz he will actually use his supporting cast kobe wont do jack shit with them except get the ball off them and shoot

good point.

by **EGarrett** on Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:10 am

Rens wrote:Butler is never going to be a star. He's shown his ceiling and why he dropped so far in his draft.

From what I understand Butler's problem is that he isn't the brightest bulb in the box, so to speak.

And if Stromile Swift is any indication, that means he's not going to get much better.

by **Sauru** on Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:09 am

whats worse though. having all sorts of talent and not enough smarts to use it the right way, or having loads of talent and being to damn lazy to do anything with it.

by **Matt** on Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:14 pm

Rens wrote:Butler is never going to be a star. He's shown his ceiling and why he dropped so far in his draft.

I have to disagree. It's hard for me to digest that a player gets worse after his rookie season. An injury free Butler is good news for the Lakers

by **50first** on Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:34 pm

EGarrett wrote:
Rens wrote:Butler is never going to be a star. He's shown his ceiling and why he dropped so far in his draft.

From what I understand Butler's problem is that he isn't the brightest bulb in the box, so to speak.

can't speak for the man but from people that know him. you can't knock a man who's willing to give up his individuality to play a role suited for the team.

by **Steve04** on Sat Oct 02, 2004 6:27 am

They may have the same abilities but I don't see the killer instinct in Tracy to take his team all the way. He's one of those players that is great until the going gets tough. But I hope the Lakers and Rockets are powerhouses for years to come so we can watch them in the same conference. Yao and T-Mac..two sissys with unbelievable ability.

by **Sauru** on Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:42 am

this is exactly what sets these 2 apart imo. the killer instinct as you said. the drive and will to win. kobe has this and tmac dont. well i wont say he dont, its just no way near the level of kobe's.

by **50first** on Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:50 am

Steve04 wrote:Yao and T-Mac..two sissys with unbelievable ability.

agreeable... hopefully this season won't be so sissy. :cry:

lol

by **EGarrett** on Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:22 am

Sauru wrote:whats worse though. having all sorts of talent and not enough smarts to use it the right way, or having loads of talent and being to damn lazy to do anything with it.

Having not enough smarts. The lazy players can sometimes get tired of not having all the accolades and blossom after that. Example: Gary Payton. He admittedly didn't work on his game the first two years he was in the league, assuming that he could get by with instinct alone, being the #2 pick and all. Then he saw that it wasn't going to work for him that way, and he turned into the Glove.

They may have the same abilities but I don't see the killer instinct in Tracy to take his team all the way. He's one of those players that is great until the going gets tough. But I hope the Lakers and Rockets are powerhouses for years to come so we can watch them in the same conference. Yao and T-Mac..two sissys with unbelievable ability.

We don't really know that. He hasn't had the team to compete for a championship yet. It's easy to have the "will to win" when you have other great players on your team who can let you rest up for the fourth quarter. We'll find out this year.

by **Spinners** on Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:43 am

Rockets vs Lakers

Center: Yao Ming > Vlade Divac
Power Forward: Juwan Howard > Brian Grant
Small Forward: Jim Jackson < Lamar Odom
Shooting Guard: Tracy McGrady = Kobe Bryant
Point Guard: Tyronn Lue < Chucky Atkins

by . on Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:53 am

Cool...the good ol ...>... game...My turn:

Chinese dude > Divac
Howard < Grant
Jackson < Odom
McGrady < Bryant
Lue < Atkins

Lakers win

by **Repole** on Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:26 am

chucky atkins isnt better than anyone, he plays like he has a paper bag over his head....

Yao (17,9,2,2)>>Divac(10,6,5,1)
Howard (17,7,2,.3)<Odom (17,10,4,1)
Jackson (13,6,3,1) > Butler (12.5,5,2,1)
Lue (10,2,4,1)>>>>>>>Atkins (8,2,4,1 and i rounded up on everything with him)

Points, Rebounds, Assists, and Blocks (C and PF) or Steals (SF and PG), these are rounded numbers of course..
Houston 57 pts, 24 rebounds, 11 assists, 2 blocks, and 2 steals
Los Angeles 47 pts, 23 rebounds, 18 assists, 2 blocks, 2 steals

LA has way more assists, but is way down in points. the rest is pretty much even.

So i've come to my conclusion that the LAL and Rockers starting lineup supporting cast is pretty much equal, but i give the edge to houston, due to the fact that they score more points. If you score and no one gets an assist, is it really any worse than scoring and having your center get an assist? The bench of course, is a different story, i havent even looked at the teams benches, because i dont feel like it, so um, someone else can do that if they want.

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