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Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Wolfy03 on Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:53 am

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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby [Q] on Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:49 am

Lmao fuck that guy. He's a Jeremy Lin hater.

Sounds like they will waive him and he will sign with Houston.

So looks like the Hawks basically used the trade to cut ties with Schroeder. It was curious that they loaded up at PG with Lin and Young
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Jeffx on Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:19 am

[Q] wrote:Sounds like they will waive him and he will sign with Houston.



LOL @ Houston for wanting to add Carmelo Anthony. Durant will drop 50 on him.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Sauru on Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:27 am

fucking fleeced them
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Jeffx on Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:07 am

So someone explain to me why Sam Presti is considered a genius? He didn't want to pay Harden, but look at the money he's wasted since - am I missing something?
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:12 am

Presti hasn't been the same since he fucked up the Harden situation.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:12 am

Perhaps he's learned he needs to spend the money (and/or has been given free reign to), and he does have a bigger cap to work with now. The problem is who he's choosing to spend money on, now that he's willing and able.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Sauru on Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:24 pm

carmelo doing it right. fuck chasing rings. make all the fucking money while doing as little as possible. melo the real goat
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby [Q] on Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:09 pm

Andrew wrote:Perhaps he's learned he needs to spend the money (and/or has been given free reign to), and he does have a bigger cap to work with now. The problem is who he's choosing to spend money on, now that he's willing and able.

Some guys luck into great situations but eventually make the wrong moves and overpay the wrong players.

Some guys who once were thought highly of have fallen on hard times
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:04 pm

That's true. Also, while I won't really defend trading Harden - even at the time, it was questionable - he hadn't yet established himself as the player he is now, and was coming off a fairly subpar performance in the 2012 NBA Finals. As I mentioned before, the cap was also lower back then, and most teams weren't laughing in the face of the luxury tax as they do now. The Thunder also still had Durant and Westbrook, and couldn't come to terms with Harden on a new deal. Questionable at the time, even worse in hindsight, but I think people do oversimplify the situation when they look back at it.

The other funny thing about Harden is that he's often criticised and deemed to be an overrated pseudo superstar; a player who can have dazzling performances and put up great regular season numbers, but isn't reliable in the Playoffs or a true franchise player that a team can build around. Yet at the same time, Presti is criticised for letting him go. It's strange how he's simultaneously seen as a team cancer, or at the very least a star who can't win anything, but at the same time a valuable player that you'd be foolish to lose.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Sauru on Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:26 pm

the harden move like many others has hindsight bias all over it.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby benji on Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:45 pm

Schroder trade has expanded into three way:
The Thunder will then send Muscala to the 76ers for forward Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot, and Philadelphia will send guard Justin Anderson to Atlanta, league sources said.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby air gordon on Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:05 pm

i think this move bumps OKC to #2 in the West. instead of force feeding the rich guy minutes, they can put in someone who will contribute. If Grant ever became a threat from 3pt land.
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Postby [Q] on Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:08 am

I wouldn't say #2, but I agree it is addition by subtraction. The fact that someone productive like Roberson will be playing those minutes will help for sure
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Wolfy03 on Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:25 am

OKC not going anywhere till they get rid of Russ. And I am not kidding. They had a really solid team this year, but Triple-Double machine needs ball on every possesion just to collect his numbers. That's the reason why they lost to Utah. He needs to play more team ball.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Jeffx on Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:55 am

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I can't wait for Anthony to go to Houston and wreck their season. If he would accept a 6th man role and be a scorer off the bench, it might work. But he still thinks he should start. That's his problem - he's never been a "team" player, he's not a leader, and he's a human turnstile on defense.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Andrew on Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:16 am

In fairness to him, it's probably a hard pill to swallow, and everyone has their pride and ego. It would be for the best though, an opportunity to reinvent himself and perhaps find more success.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby NovU on Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:26 pm

What is left of 2003 draft are turning into shit rather fast these days. Wade done, Melo done. Addition by subtraction indeed. But still the Rockets have better best players. I am thinking the Thunder are still 2nd tier Western powerhouse perhaps rivaling Utha. Will be interesting Donovan/Gobert vs Adams/Westy once again.

As for Melo, why not go LA.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Phil89 on Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:45 pm

I feel like OKC will be much better with Steven Adams as the third option, instead of Melo. Him and Westbrook have great chemistry on offense.

They should also be one of the best defensive teams in the league again once Roberson comes back.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby jwin on Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:44 am

Jeffx wrote:
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I can't wait for Anthony to go to Houston and wreck their season. If he would accept a 6th man role and be a scorer off the bench, it might work. But he still thinks he should start. That's his problem - he's never been a "team" player, he's not a leader, and he's a human turnstile on defense.

Andrew wrote:In fairness to him, it's probably a hard pill to swallow, and everyone has their pride and ego. It would be for the best though, an opportunity to reinvent himself and perhaps find more success.


looks like he already made it known he won't settle for a bench role

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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Jeffx on Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:03 pm

Carmelo Anthony is set to sign with Houston....which team will have more drama, Rockets or Lakers?

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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Andrew on Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:18 pm

The Lakers still have more "characters" on their roster, so probably them. Meanwhile, I'm interested to see if the person who promised to buy everyone who Re-Tweeted him a copy of NBA 2K19 will follow through on that.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby [Q] on Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:49 am

LeBron will keep the guys in check. I mean he had Delonte West as a teammate.

I think Melo has a shot at being a starter, especially with Ariza gone. Had Ariza not left for Phoenix, I would have said it was questionable
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Andrew on Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:58 am

LeBron did take his eye off Delonte, though.

I'd say Melo will start. As you said, the spot is wide open with Ariza gone. I imagine he would've forced his way to start even if Ariza was still there, though. He seems to be vehemently against coming off the bench, even if it meant significant sixth man minutes.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Andrew on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:59 am

Some fair points being made there. This line raises a few pertinent questions, however:

They only need Melo to come in and do his job as the fourth or fifth piece for this team to get better, not be the superstar from 10 years ago.


We know that Melo doesn't want to come off the bench, but even if he starts, is he going to be content with the role of being the fourth or fifth player in the pecking order? Can he be at all effective in that role? Can he, or is he even willing, to tailor his game as necessary? Does he expect his 15 field goal attempts per game from last season to be there in Houston (effectively replacing Ariza and Mbah a Moute's attempts combined)? Even if he doesn't set them back, does he move the Rockets forward at all?

Again, I think there are some fair points being made there. If Melo is willing to accept that lesser role and can find a way of being more effective and efficient in it, it could possibly work out. On a one year deal, there's not as much risk, either. At the same time, I believe it's fair that people are sceptical.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Jeffx on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:01 pm

Andrew wrote:Can he, or is he even willing, to tailor his game as necessary?


We both know the answer to that question, Andrew. Carmelo has always been a one-trick pony, and doesn't give effort on defense.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Andrew on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:13 pm

I suspect our gut feeling will be correct. He is a versatile scorer, but he's also a guy who's had the ball in his hands a lot throughout his career. He's not going to get the same touches with Harden and CP3 handling the ball and running the offense. Even if he's happy with that arrangement, can he be an effective scorer in that scenario with his skillset? He can post up, and spot up from the midrange out to three-point territory, but it's not necessarily his preference to be playing off the ball as much as he likely will be, and he's not an outstanding shooter.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Jeffx on Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:09 pm

Andrew wrote:I suspect our gut feeling will be correct. He is a versatile scorer, but he's also a guy who's had the ball in his hands a lot throughout his career. He's not going to get the same touches with Harden and CP3 handling the ball and running the offense. Even if he's happy with that arrangement, can he be an effective scorer in that scenario with his skillset? He can post up, and spot up from the midrange out to three-point territory, but it's not necessarily his preference to be playing off the ball as much as he likely will be, and he's not an outstanding shooter.


It amazes me how many folks think the Rockets are a better team with Anthony in the starting lineup.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Andrew on Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:14 pm

Wishful thinking. If it's about wishing someone could step up and knock off the Warriors, I understand.
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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Kevin on Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:14 am

This is the only acceptable Melo copy-pasta related to the Warriors.

clock winds down to 5 seconds left in game

ball is inbounded to Carmelo who turns face to face against KD

"You took my family"

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"You took my friends"

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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Jeffx on Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:15 am

Hey Andrew, I'll believe this when I see it;

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Re: Melo to Hawks Trade

Postby Andrew on Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:46 pm

Same, but perhaps the streak will come to an end after all.
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