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Postby FanOfAll on Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:11 am

to Indiana for 6 yrs, 39 million

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1837655

I hear another report that Jackson was signed by the Hawks for that deal and traded to the Pacers for Harrington. Not too sure, as I think there's a lot more to it than just a Jackson-Harrington swap.
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Postby Jackal on Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:34 am

Not bad...he's a good player. I think he's worth the money.

He can start at the 2...well he could start at the 3 also..meh, Artest and Jackson should start.

Miller needs to move to the bench now.
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Postby FanOfAll on Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:32 am

This a good move for the Pacers because they retain the MLE and now can make an offer to a player like Derek Fisher or Damon Jones. Also a good move for the Hawks as they pick up a good big man...and Billy Knight was the one who recommended Harrington to the Pacers.
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Postby twolvezfanfoever on Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:34 am

Ill admit he's good,but yet again another overpaid player.that man is not worth 44 mil.Bout 10 mil really
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Postby Jackal on Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:02 pm

44 Mil?

I thought it was 39 Mil? Atleast that's what the first person said...

39 million for 6 year is decent, it comes out to 6.5 million per yer.

You want to pay the man 10 million for a 6 year contract?

1.6 million only? That's harsh, he's worth more than that. Come on, 10 million? :shock: :x
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Postby Full Surface on Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:07 pm

Reggie Miller doesn't deserve to be benched.
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Postby FanOfAll on Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:14 pm

throwbackeckotl wrote:Ill admit he's good,but yet again another overpaid player.that man is not worth 44 mil.Bout 10 mil really

Considering what's been going on this offseason, it wasn't a bad signing. Brent Barry was the real steal, but this one isn't ala Foyle.
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Postby Jackal on Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:27 pm

refuze wrote:Reggie Miller doesn't deserve to be benched.


Care to elaborate? You mean given his history? Or his skills?

Skills wise, he can be benched.
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Postby LouisvilleLip on Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:50 pm

New Deal

This way the Pacers will keep there MLE but I highly doubt they will use it. So whats the point, if u could have signed Jackson for the Mle and kept Harrington. Instead they signed him for more and now they have to give up Harrington. Please explain why they would choose to do it this way.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1837655


The Atlanta Hawks and the Indiana Pacers have agreed to a sign-and-trade deal with guard Stephen Jackson, ESPN the Magazine's Ric Bucher reported Saturday night.

The Hawks will re-sign Jackson to a six-year, $44 million deal and then trade him to the Pacers for forward Al Harrington. The trade cannot take place until at least July 14th, per NBA rules

The Pacers have been looking for some athleticism and perimeter shooting in their backcourt and Jackson, who has championship experience with the Spurs, can provide both.


Jackson averaged 18.1 points, 4.6 rebounds and 3.1 assists per game last season in his only campaign as a Hawk. That followed his breakout season in San Antonio, where he averaged 11.8 points per game for the 2002-03 NBA champions.
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Postby Full Surface on Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:50 pm

Jackal wrote:
refuze wrote:Reggie Miller doesn't deserve to be benched.


Care to elaborate? You mean given his history? Or his skills?

Skills wise, he can be benched.


History.

I don't how a team can sub their franchise legend unless the person is willing to do so. I know Reggie Miller isn't a selfish player but it wouldn't seem right if he was benched, IMO.
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Postby FanOfAll on Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:02 pm

LouisvilleLip wrote:New Deal

This way the Pacers will keep there MLE but I highly doubt they will use it. So whats the point, if u could have signed Jackson for the Mle and kept Harrington. Instead they signed him for more and now they have to give up Harrington. Please explain why they would choose to do it this way.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1837655


The Atlanta Hawks and the Indiana Pacers have agreed to a sign-and-trade deal with guard Stephen Jackson, ESPN the Magazine's Ric Bucher reported Saturday night.

The Hawks will re-sign Jackson to a six-year, $44 million deal and then trade him to the Pacers for forward Al Harrington. The trade cannot take place until at least July 14th, per NBA rules

The Pacers have been looking for some athleticism and perimeter shooting in their backcourt and Jackson, who has championship experience with the Spurs, can provide both.


Jackson averaged 18.1 points, 4.6 rebounds and 3.1 assists per game last season in his only campaign as a Hawk. That followed his breakout season in San Antonio, where he averaged 11.8 points per game for the 2002-03 NBA champions.

Why do you highly doubt they'll use their MLE? They could use another big man, another point guard. Harrington wanted a bigger contract and a bigger role, he wanted out if he wasn't starting.
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Postby Full Surface on Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:07 pm

FanOfAll wrote:
LouisvilleLip wrote:New Deal

This way the Pacers will keep there MLE but I highly doubt they will use it. So whats the point, if u could have signed Jackson for the Mle and kept Harrington. Instead they signed him for more and now they have to give up Harrington. Please explain why they would choose to do it this way.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1837655


The Atlanta Hawks and the Indiana Pacers have agreed to a sign-and-trade deal with guard Stephen Jackson, ESPN the Magazine's Ric Bucher reported Saturday night.

The Hawks will re-sign Jackson to a six-year, $44 million deal and then trade him to the Pacers for forward Al Harrington. The trade cannot take place until at least July 14th, per NBA rules

The Pacers have been looking for some athleticism and perimeter shooting in their backcourt and Jackson, who has championship experience with the Spurs, can provide both.


Jackson averaged 18.1 points, 4.6 rebounds and 3.1 assists per game last season in his only campaign as a Hawk. That followed his breakout season in San Antonio, where he averaged 11.8 points per game for the 2002-03 NBA champions.

Why do you highly doubt they'll use their MLE? They could use another big man, another point guard. Harrington wanted a bigger contract and a bigger role, he wanted out if he wasn't starting.


Imagine what the Hawks can have with Martin and Harrington.
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Postby Andre on Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:59 pm

Man...your signature it's unbelievable. :shock:
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Postby Macca on Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:56 pm

Imagine what the Hawks can have with Martin and Harrington.


Man, that would be a sweet duo and the Hawks need something- anything. What if they go after Kobe? I doubt that they'd get him but still, they need something.

Stephen Jackson to Indiana is a pretty good deal. He'd most likely take Reggie's spot, since he can knock down the 3 and also take it to the hole. ...And Reggie can still come off the bench and knock down the game winner. Reg don't need to get 25 ppg anymore, but he still contributes in his own way and it still helps.
Overall, I think it would be a pretty even deal- both need something new.

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Postby Amphatoast on Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:28 pm

refuze wrote:
Jackal wrote:
refuze wrote:Reggie Miller doesn't deserve to be benched.


Care to elaborate? You mean given his history? Or his skills?

Skills wise, he can be benched.


History.

I don't how a team can sub their franchise legend unless the person is willing to do so. I know Reggie Miller isn't a selfish player but it wouldn't seem right if he was benched, IMO.


hmmm, ok, so pretend Tracy McGrady was traded to Indiana. Would you bench him for Reggie?
I know Jackson isn't McGrady, but you got to put your best line up on the floor. Reggie knows time is going and if he sits on the bench, comes off, knocks a few 3s, they are easily title contenders and thats what he is playing for, a championship. Don't forget the Pacers did have the best record this season..
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Postby FanOfAll on Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:28 pm

LouisvilleLip wrote:New Deal

This way the Pacers will keep there MLE but I highly doubt they will use it. So whats the point, if u could have signed Jackson for the Mle and kept Harrington. Instead they signed him for more and now they have to give up Harrington. Please explain why they would choose to do it this way.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1837655


The Atlanta Hawks and the Indiana Pacers have agreed to a sign-and-trade deal with guard Stephen Jackson, ESPN the Magazine's Ric Bucher reported Saturday night.

The Hawks will re-sign Jackson to a six-year, $44 million deal and then trade him to the Pacers for forward Al Harrington. The trade cannot take place until at least July 14th, per NBA rules

The Pacers have been looking for some athleticism and perimeter shooting in their backcourt and Jackson, who has championship experience with the Spurs, can provide both.


Jackson averaged 18.1 points, 4.6 rebounds and 3.1 assists per game last season in his only campaign as a Hawk. That followed his breakout season in San Antonio, where he averaged 11.8 points per game for the 2002-03 NBA champions.

Dang, 44 million? That's a bit more...I guess it's still not a bad signing. 39 million would've been a lot better though.
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Postby Andrew on Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:39 pm

I would have thought the Hawks would be more interested in persuading Jackson to stick around, but at least they're working out a sign-and-trade. Who would have thought that Chris Dudley would have been starting a trend when he re-signed with the Blazers before being traded to New York?
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Postby FanOfAll on Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:44 pm

Andrew wrote:I would have thought the Hawks would be more interested in persuading Jackson to stick around, but at least they're working out a sign-and-trade. Who would have thought that Chris Dudley would have been starting a trend when he re-signed with the Blazers before being traded to New York?

LOL @ Dudley. Nope no one ever thought.....

I don't think the Hawks needed Jackson around. Getting Harrington was a good idea since he's a back to the basket player that they really need. Their wing is pretty crowded already with Diaw, Childress, Smith, Smith, possibly Sura, and some Terry at the 2 on occasion.
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Postby Andrew on Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:50 pm

I guess it won't matter if Sura can keep posting triple doubles. ;)
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Postby twolvezfanfoever on Tue Jul 13, 2004 5:55 am

that was a fluke period when he got them triple doubles.and they Reggie!! thats the man.Even though he a old man.Its sad cuz I know its gonna happen
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