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Postby Dan's Brain on Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:41 pm

Ben wrote:"Roster Center"


Is he related to that Roster Player guy who played with the Bulls in NBA Lives 96-99?

If so, the Suns should be looking good next year.

On a slightly more serious note, i think that the Suns are a major free agent signing (and injuries to Shaq, Brad Miller, Peja, and Zach Randolph) away from making any serious noise in the Pacific division. They're stuck in a conference where good enough is not even close to being what you need to succeed. I can see them making the playoffs with the team that they have but not getting beyond the first round for another couple of years.
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Postby benji on Tue Jan 06, 2004 6:12 am

Tyson_03 wrote:
Ben wrote:"Roster Center"


[i]Is he related to that Roster Player guy who played with the Bulls in NBA Lives 96-99?

If so, the Suns should be looking good next year.

Sorta, he's more related to the "Roster Center" guy who played in everyone but EA's games before 1998. ;)
I'm sorry but like I said, I'm pretty sure he won't be landing on any other teams. I doubt anyone wants a 33 year old with bad knees who will get payed over $15 million a year for the next two years. Plus he's too important to Phoenix.

Ok, I was wrong about twelve hours later. But, I said this thinking the Suns wouldn't tear things up and start over since they're so close. Plus, I forgot the Knicks will take any bad contract. Now Hardaway can settle into a lesser role in New York (since they have Anderson and Williams...plus Norris) and get his paycheck playing even less.
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Postby PoliceLineDoNotCross on Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:29 am

zippy wrote:I want him get traded to a playoff team that needs a point guard..

ben wrote:I'm sorry but like I said, I'm pretty sure he won't be landing on any other teams. I doubt anyone wants a 33 year old with bad knees who will get payed over $15 million a year for the next two years. Plus he's too important to Phoenix.


thats funny. a day later, he gets traded to the knicks(a possible play off team).

too important to phoenix now?
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Postby Stevan on Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:23 pm

Here's an article from about 3 days ago, for those of you who can't be bothered signing up to Chicagosports.com.

Suns' Penny is hit hard by deflation

Sam Smith

January 4, 2004, 9:50 PM CST


Penny Hardaway isn't complaining, but he's frustrated and thinks he can do so much more. The expectations really weren't there, but he believed he could show the skeptics. It just hasn't happened, which makes the veteran guard's struggles something of a metaphor for the Phoenix Suns, who play the Bulls on Monday night at the United Center.

"I feel like I'm in a nightmare," said Hardaway, the two-time All-NBA first-teamer who has faded to a support role after undergoing five knee operations.




"This has been my hardest year. I feel like my body is good enough to sustain a lot of minutes, but … "

But the Suns (12-22) don't agree. This season, perhaps, has been their hardest too. Though without a championship, Phoenix is one of the most successful franchises in NBA history. The Suns have had only 12 losing seasons in the franchise's 36-year history—the Bulls are working on their sixth straight—and have one of the highest winning percentages of all franchises at 55 percent.

But this season they already have fired coach Frank Johnson, despite Johnson defying the odds and taking them to the playoffs last season. They have changed much of their roster in financial moves because attendance is dropping, and they have been without last season's rookie star, Amare Stoudemire, for the last month because of an ankle injury.

The result has been a plummet to the bottom of the Western Conference and a look toward the future with a youth movement.

Which is where Hardaway comes in. Or, actually, doesn't.

Hardaway, recovered from three years of crippling injuries, has been a spot player, occasionally starting. But mostly he rides the bench down the stretch.

"I feel like I'm in the best physical shape I've been in since I've been here," Hardaway said. "I worked so hard in the summer, but then comes the youth movement in the league. We have Joe Johnson and Casey Jacobsen, and they want the young guys to play. It's like they said, 'We've moved on with our life.'

"I feel I'd still like to get a shot at being the Penny Hardaway everyone knew five years ago," said Hardaway, who in the mid-1990s was the best young perimeter player in the game and biggest young star with his L'il Penny commercials. "I feel I can go out there and help. I'm 32. I have a window of opportunity. I feel I have three or four years of great basketball left in me."

Despite his frustration, players and team officials say Hardaway has been the ultimate teammate and positive locker-room presence. He has worked with and encouraged the younger players and has been almost an extra coach.

The problem is his contract, not that Hardaway is complaining. He makes $13.5 million this season and has two seasons left. He would be an excellent guard for several teams, but in this luxury-tax era, teams are reluctant to take on his big contract. So Hardaway sits.

"When you make a lot of money, people think you don't care," Hardaway said. "But I love this game. I could have given up a long time ago. But I worked my butt off. People think I'm done, washed up. When you're coming off the bench or not playing in the fourth quarter, they think you can't do anything.

"But that's not the case. I don't want to retire and sit on the bench. I feel like I can go to any team that needs a point guard and average a double-double. That's how good I feel. I have the skills and maturity. I've learned from the game, and I still want to be able to finish my career on a high note."


I've just been watching some old highlight tapes, and Penny was such a bad ass. I didn't like him back then, he had a certain arrogance. I see a lot of similarities between him and Kobe. But, I eventually learned to appreciate his game and the injuries have humbled him somewhat I guess. He was like a freakin pogo stick back in the day. He took the Heat to 5 games in the first round in 97, by himself!

I'm glad he was traded. Though the Knicks have Allan Houston, it's good for Penny to get a fresh start... let's see what happens.
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Postby unicorn on Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:25 am

I hope penny will do good at new york. :)
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Postby Bill Russell on Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:45 pm

Penny was one of my favorites back in the day.

I still remember that crazy play he did against the Pisstons in one of those playoff series, in which he was fouled near the free throw line, while shooting... In mid-air, he looked at the ref, saw that his shot, if hit, would count, then turned, looked at the basket and let the ball go. Net. That was crazy, absolute hangtime. I remember I practiced that for a few days on my high school court.
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Postby Matthew on Wed Jan 07, 2004 3:35 pm

Or that shot against miami, on the fastbreak he goes up, gets fouled, turns 180 degrees, flips the ball over his shoulder without looking at the rim, banks it in. And 1 :)
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Postby Stevan on Wed Jan 07, 2004 3:45 pm

I still remember that crazy play he did against the Pisstons in one of those playoff series, in which he was fouled near the free throw line, while shooting... In mid-air, he looked at the ref, saw that his shot, if hit, would count, then turned, looked at the basket and let the ball go. Net. That was crazy, absolute hangtime. I remember I practiced that for a few days on my high school court.

I remember that Tales... infact I watched it yesterday! :)

Dunk over Ewing in 95 comes to mind also. And there was also a bank shot from half court against the Bulls in the 96 conference finals.

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Postby Matthew on Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:09 pm

Thinking about it, im suprised mugsy bogues never posterised patrick ewing. Patrick got dunked on by so many players :twisted:
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Postby Stevan on Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:14 pm

Anthony Mason dunked on Patrick, hard, in the 96/97 playoffs when Mase was a Hornet. But Patrick dunked hard on Zo in the Knicks/Heat series.

One of the funnier things I saw when watching my old highlight tapes... Darrell Armstrong blocked the shit out of Antoine Walker!!! Antoine strolls into the lane with a finger roll over his defender who's standing still trying to take a charge... Armstrong comes out of nowhere and gets up to the rim and swats the shot! How embarassing! :lol:
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Postby Nick on Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:41 am

D. Armstrong is a little machine! :o Did anybody see the game this year between NOH and DAL? It was at the start of the season i think... anyway.. Armstrong blocked the absolute SHIT out of Travis Best! :D Best makes a fast break, he has an open lay-up and Armstrong swatted it out of bounds from behind! BEHIND!!!!
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Postby Dan's Brain on Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:16 pm

On a slightly more serious note, i think that the Suns are a major free agent signing (and injuries to Shaq, Brad Miller, Peja, and Zach Randolph) away from making any serious noise in the Pacific division. They're stuck in a conference where good enough is not even close to being what you need to succeed. I can see them making the playoffs with the team that they have but not getting beyond the first round for another couple of years.


And now, the Suns are even further away from the playoffs. Can McDyess be expected to last beyond this offseason? He's got a superior and younger player playing the same position as him. Best be hoping their first round pick is pretty high, cos they'll need a Point, even though this year's draft will probably not have another Kirk Hinrich or T.J. Ford.
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Postby Matthew on Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:00 pm

And plus the pick they recieve from new york wont be that high if the knicks make the playoffs, and the suns wouldve had a lottery pick with or without stephon... its a massive gamble, if they get a big free agent, then it was worth it.. but if they dont it might be as bad as the dan marjle/hot rod williams deal
Isiah deserves alot of recognition for this trade (y)
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