Suns Begin Trade Talks Involving Amare

[Alejandrov011]

Those trades are AWFUL

Suns trading away Shaq, Amare, Barbosa, Richardson and Hill for Wally, Big Ben and Hinrich???


YOU MAKE ME LAUGH

[Calamaro]

I made this two trades involving two potential destinations for Stoudemire:

To Chicago
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=

To Golden State
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &cash=21:9

What do you think?

[Cartar]

I made this two trades involving two potential destinations for Stoudemire:

To Chicago
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=

To Golden State
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &cash=21:9

What do you think?

Chicago has to add something else, like draft picks or Noah or somebody.

The second trade looks more legit.

And welcome to the forums!

[Andrew]

And than there is their biggest selling point. They are in the East ... so if at all, the Suns would only be able to meet them in the Finals. Thats Portlands biggest weakness right now.

True, and they're probably ahead of Miami who would likely be looking to include Marion and I don't see the Suns wanting to get him back considering a rift with the front office is one of the reasons they were open to trading him in the first place. The Knicks can also make a strong bid though also being in the East and be able to offer David Lee (amongst others) as well as a pick likely to be in the lottery, if necessary.

[tee-pane]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=
Stoudemire to Raps for Bargnani, Kapono, and Parker!

[air gordon]

andrew
most media outlets have reported that Kerr isn't interested in taking on long-term contracts. if this is the case there's no danger of deng or hinrich being traded. i think you're mad btw hehe. most of the players skillset on this roster are screaming for a 20pts+ post scorer. and it appears that deng is finally hitting his stride playing with rose. with the continuing development of Rose and a stud in the post, i don't see how deng can't become an effective "third wheel"

the bulls are only a few games back with ~25 games left. philly & the bucks recently lost key players to season ending injuries. i think the window is still wide open for them to make the postseason

probably the team that's the front runner in the Stoudemire sweepstakes is the one that has yet to be mentioned by the media. it's only until we get the "breaking/in hindsight" news from espn's marc stein will we find out that those 2 teams were discussing trade this entire time

i think miami has a good chance. even if Marion had problems with managment- kerr could just let marion's contract run out or he could try to trade him again hehe. trading amar'e to the east, beasley, and cap space sounds like a great deal for phoenix

[NovU]

The Suns will try to get fair value via trade although I don't think it's likely to happen. That's what makes this trade so tough. It's not like Amare's been really vocal to get traded so I think the Suns are somewhat trying to upgrade for the short term wise even though it's going to cost a bit. In the end, they are not likely to rush anything, especially because it's Amare that we are talking about. The Suns won't let go of him for something too little.

[Andrew]

andrew
most media outlets have reported that Kerr isn't interested in taking on long-term contracts. if this is the case there's no danger of deng or hinrich being traded. i think you're mad btw hehe. most of the players skillset on this roster are screaming for a 20pts+ post scorer. and it appears that deng is finally hitting his stride playing with rose. with the continuing development of Rose and a stud in the post, i don't see how deng can't become an effective "third wheel"

I'm not saying he couldn't but I just think Gordon is the more proven scorer. And you're right, the opportunity to make the postseason is certainly there but the window is closing, even with the Bucks and Sixers suffering those injuries.

Of course, if this scenario has any chance of going down (as reported here) then I'm all for it.

Most Stoudemire suitors believe the Bulls have the chance to offer the best package, which could include the expiring contract of Drew Gooden, rapidly emerging forward Tyrus Thomas, Joakim Noah and possibly a draft pick. Bulls GM John Paxson recently had his assistant, GM Gar Forman, return from the college scouting trail to Chicago to pour over trade possibilities with him. The Bulls are clearly determined to land Stoudemire.

From the Suns perspective, I have to agree with Wojnarowski too. It's not much better than the Sixers benching AI before they traded him a couple of years ago (though they did come through that deal OK) or the Pacers benching Tinsley this year. With a player of Stoudemire's stature, they should have plenty of leverage but they could well be throwing that away.

[TheBigEasy]

Well .. contrary to what I said about Portland, they seem to be in the hunt for Stoudemire and reportedly are even considering giving up Aldridge.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entr ... 3/13515062

That Portland team would be scary, with Roy, Oden and Stoudemire as well as all those good youngsters.

[Lamrock]

That would be a definite "yes" for both teams. Sadly, I don't see it happening. Its too good to be true.

[NovU]

Amare over Aldridge should be an upgrade. Only if Oden lived up to an expectation, they wouldn't be thinking to upgrade their front court.

What an interesting trade scenario. For me, I'd definitely want to see something like this happen if Amare ever has to leave. Even for the Suns, Aldridge should be a tempting product as he is a proven inside player who can play well with most of players.

[Alejandrov011]

We all talk about some trade posibilities...

What about if I think that this is a kind of plan by the Management to say to Amar'e and co "Hey, come on wake up everybody"

I say this beacuse for example the Diaw-Bell trade

[air gordon]

I'm not saying he couldn't but I just think Gordon is the more proven scorer. And you're right, the opportunity to make the postseason is certainly there but the window is closing, even with the Bucks and Sixers suffering those injuries.

i agree Gordon is the better/proven scorer. IMO if i had to choose between the 2 should Amare arrive in a trade, i would no doubt pick Deng. Deng's skillset on both sides of the ball would be more ideal for that mix of players. Gordon would be a nice option as a sixth man but with his salary demands... you could use that on a bigger need- a legit sized SG who can both shoot/defend and/or another big man

this window closing business... you're being silly. yes in a sense it is "closing" as each game goes by. but this isn't like it's the 77th game of the year and they are 5 games back of a playoff spot.

there are 32 games left to make up 1 game

even with the current roster the bulls have a shot to make the postseason lol


contrary to what was said earlier in the thread, i think by Noah, i believe GM Kerr does NOT want to trade Stoudemire to a Western Conference team. Gm's seldom prefer doing it, heck even Kerr spoke on this when he was still doing games for TNT..

[Andrew]

this window closing business... you're being silly. yes in a sense it is "closing" as each game goes by. but this isn't like it's the 77th game of the year and they are 5 games back of a playoff spot.

there are 32 games left to make up 1 game

even with the current roster the bulls have a shot to make the postseason lol

Call me silly if you like but we said the exact same thing last year when they still had a shot at cracking the top eight late into the season and then threw it away. The way they blow leads, lose winnable games and will drop two or three in a row means they really need to be breathing down the necks of whoever happens to be in eighth place on any given day, moreso than they are right now. Milwaukee and Philadelphia are shorthanded but they're also still winning so the gap isn't closing. I think they need to make a push now and really get into a battle with those two teams for the lower seeds otherwise it'll be like last year where we're saying they have plenty of time then suddenly they're mathematically eliminated because they've continued to meander through the season after the All-Star break.

Perhaps suggesting the window is closing is a bit premature and melodramatic but I don't think they can afford to dawdle. With three to four games per week, the season does go by surprisingly quickly and if their mindset is "Well, we've still got 32 games to make up the difference" then I don't see them getting the eighth spot. I don't think complacency and a lack of a sense of urgency - even with that many games left on the schedule - is going to get the job done. I never said they don't have a shot but a push now would make things a lot easier, instead of continuing to count down games as they try to make up a small gap and end up staying the course or dropping a few and widening the gap.

[Clueminati017]

Amare over Aldridge should be an upgrade. Only if Oden lived up to an expectation, they wouldn't be thinking to upgrade their front court.

What an interesting trade scenario. For me, I'd definitely want to see something like this happen if Amare ever has to leave. Even for the Suns, Aldridge should be a tempting product as he is a proven inside player who can play well with most of players.

On what I read on RealGM.com. Portland is backing down on the pursuit of Amar'e just to find an elite point guard, but now Memphis is in the race trying to get him although they've turned down the trade because Phoenix wanted Mike Conley, Rudy Gay, and Hakim Warrick. Although, it is a very slim chance that Memphis would get Amar'e if they can keep Rudy.

Now, they're doing a three-way trade where Amar'e Stoudamire may be going to Miami. With Michael Beasley going to Memphis. Where Conley, Gay, and Warrick may be still going to Phoenix if possible.

Source

[tee-pane]

Amare over Aldridge should be an upgrade. Only if Oden lived up to an expectation, they wouldn't be thinking to upgrade their front court.

What an interesting trade scenario. For me, I'd definitely want to see something like this happen if Amare ever has to leave. Even for the Suns, Aldridge should be a tempting product as he is a proven inside player who can play well with most of players.

On what I read on RealGM.com. Portland is backing down on the pursuit of Amar'e just to find an elite point guard, but now Memphis is in the race trying to get him although they've turned down the trade because Phoenix wanted Mike Conley, Rudy Gay, and Hakim Warrick. Although, it is a very slim chance that Memphis would get Amar'e if they can keep Rudy.

Now, they're doing a three-way trade where Amar'e Stoudamire may be going to Miami. With Michael Beasley going to Memphis. Where Conley, Gay, and Warrick may be still going to Phoenix if possible.

Source

Now, this is a fair trade!

[air gordon]

maybe we should move our discussion back to the bulls thread, Andrew

Let’s get this straight: last season was a death march…even more so when the bulls relieved themselves of Wallace. I hope you weren’t hanging on thinking that the team had a chance at the postseason post all star break.

I think it’s stating the obvious they can’t be complacent/have to play well in order to make the playoffs. (I wasn’t suggesting otherwise in my previous post). Last week was the first time they won 3 in a row lol. Of course they can’t slack off

have you checked the latest "course"? The previous “course” sucked since the frontcourt was virtually non-existent and injuries to key players. The current “course” is they are playing well lately. the team seems to be meshing well now that Hirnich & Deng are back and the frontcourt is producing. as each game goes by it seems like Thomas & Noah are gaining more confidence.

[Clueminati017]

Rick Bucher of ESPN Magazine made a comment that Amar'e Stoudamire may go to the Bulls or the Cavs. Now, going to the Bulls is a good thing because they can build a great team around him, Deng, Rose, and Gordon. If you trade him to the Cavs is going to be scary because not only you have LeBron but Amar'e to worry about with Mo Williams.

[StupidBoy]

Rick Bucher of ESPN Magazine made a comment that Amar'e Stoudamire may go to the Bulls or the Cavs. Now, going to the Bulls is a good thing because they can build a great team around him, Deng, Rose, and Gordon. If you trade him to the Cavs is going to be scary because not only you have LeBron but Amar'e to worry about with Mo Williams.

I don't want Amar'e in Cleveland. As far as I know, he wants to be THE guy on the team, that offense must evolve around him. He obviously wouldn't be that with LeBron on the team. And, he doesn't play defense.

[Andrew]

maybe we should move our discussion back to the bulls thread, Andrew

Let’s get this straight: last season was a death march…even more so when the bulls relieved themselves of Wallace. I hope you weren’t hanging on thinking that the team had a chance at the postseason post all star break.

I think it’s stating the obvious they can’t be complacent/have to play well in order to make the playoffs. (I wasn’t suggesting otherwise in my previous post). Last week was the first time they won 3 in a row lol. Of course they can’t slack off

have you checked the latest "course"? The previous “course” sucked since the frontcourt was virtually non-existent and injuries to key players. The current “course” is they are playing well lately. the team seems to be meshing well now that Hirnich & Deng are back and the frontcourt is producing. as each game goes by it seems like Thomas & Noah are gaining more confidence.

I must admit I was, but only because they weren't mathematically eliminated until quite late in the season, given how weak the East was last year. They certainly do seem to be playing better as of late but like I said, I think they need to make a push sooner rather than later even with 32 games left because the teams immediately ahead of them are still winning games despite injuries and such. Anyway you're right, we should keep that in the Bulls thread and get back to Amar'e.

Looks like the Heat have dropped out of the race for Amar'e with the Marion/O'Neal swap.