Rookies, Rookies, Rookies

What rookie do you think impacted his team the most?

I think Tj Ford is lookin pretty good i must say.
the rookie for the mavericks *something* Daniels does well when he gits pt.

well, i know one thing for sure, lebron ain't doing nothing. sure he may be putting up some par-decent numbers, but they ain't winning,and he ain't helping with some of the shots he's taking.

i think one rookie that has made a good impact on his team is probably carmelo, he's getting some good minutes, and the nuggets are doing better than they are before.

definatly Chris Bosh...he's been a tear the last few games...

How about Melo?

definatly Chris Bosh...he's been a tear the last few games...

the question was who helped his team the most, thats Melo no question, not Bosh...he has nice numbers, but hes not the player who gave his team the best impact

thats that probably one reason why the raps are only next to the orlando magic

Melo gets my vote.

So Bosh's nice numbers don't help his team at all? What about the whole post presence he provides? And athleticism? So his 16 points and 8 boards against the Magic had nothing to with the Raptors winning?

The Nuggets are winning, but Melo's play has been the worst, imo, of the top four rookies that are playing (Darko doesn't count). Sure, he had a 28 point game or whatever, but he also had a few games where he was 3-15 or worse....Bosh isn't the first option, but he's consistant.

Here's their numbers, in comparison:

PPG RPG APG FG% 3pt% FT% MPG

Bosh: 10.7 5.6 .3 .50 1.0 .77 30
Melo: 17.7 6.7 3.7 .38 .3 .73 35

Melo's the number one option on the Nuggets, Bosh is, well, now he's the fourth option after the trade. Before the trade he was the third option. His number have improved, as opposed to the fluctuation of Melo's stats. Melo's rebounding is better, but the Nuggets are a poor shooting team. His points are more, but he's the number one option, and the Raptors are one of the worst scoring teams in the league.

Melo may be more valuable to the Nuggets, but Bosh is extremely valuable to the Raptors, and he should definately be considered for rookie of the year if he keeps these stats up - especially if the Cavs and Nuggets don't make the playoffs.

So Bosh's nice numbers don't help his team at all? What about the whole post presence he provides? And athleticism? So his 16 points and 8 boards against the Magic had nothing to with the Raptors winning?

The Nuggets are winning, but Melo's play has been the worst, imo, of the top four rookies that are playing (Darko doesn't count). Sure, he had a 28 point game or whatever, but he also had a few games where he was 3-15 or worse....Bosh isn't the first option, but he's consistant.

Here's their numbers, in comparison:

PPG RPG APG FG% 3pt% FT% MPG

Bosh: 10.7 5.6 .3 .50 1.0 .77 30
Melo: 17.7 6.7 3.7 .38 .3 .73 35

Melo's the number one option on the Nuggets, Bosh is, well, now he's the fourth option after the trade. Before the trade he was the third option. His number have improved, as opposed to the fluctuation of Melo's stats. Melo's rebounding is better, but the Nuggets are a poor shooting team. His points are more, but he's the number one option, and the Raptors are one of the worst scoring teams in the league.

Melo may be more valuable to the Nuggets, but Bosh is extremely valuable to the Raptors, and he should definately be considered for rookie of the year if he keeps these stats up - especially if the Cavs and Nuggets don't make the playoffs.

I didnt say that he doesnt make a impact on the team at all, I just said that Melo makes a bigger impact on the team then Bosh does, sure Bosh is the 4th option, but if coaches tell a certain player: "listen, we want the offense to go trough you, we want you to be the leader on this team and give us some wins" then he automaticly becomes more valuable then the other players on the team. Ofcourse Bosh´s numbers help the Raps, dont get me wrong. But the question was who had the most impact on the team? thats just Melo, hes the main go 2 guy of the Nuggets while Bosh isnt on the Raptors.

Last edited by . on Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Main guy of the Nuggets you mean, not Raptors.

Screw them both, I'm a LJ bandwagonner now, LJ is king of basketball.

( thanks for pointing this out Heidi, felt stupid for not acknowleding your superiour intellectuality in NBA Discussions )

( thanks for pointing this out Heidi, felt stupid for not acknowleding your superiour intellectuality in NBA Discussions )

ahaha, hilarious. Anyway, Grizz are up 119-114 with 1 minute left in the 2nd OT, crap.

who's Heidi?

If team achievement is supposed to be part of the big deal, then my vote goes to Melo, he doesn't have a Vince Carter, Alvin Williams & now Jalen Rose in his team,

Melo really turned his team around from last year. plus the other new ppl dey have xpeciallly Boykinz

who's Heidi?

Heidi is the poster in the NLSC known as "Lebron James"

Like Jason Kidd two years ago I think Carmelo Anthony is getting too much or the wrong credit here. Kidd didn't turn the Nets around because of his passing. The Nets turned around because they weren't injured and because of Kidd's effect on the Nets defense. The Nuggets are winning because they are playing at one of the highest paces in the league and their are using streak shooters to their fullest. Like Seattle the entire attack is coming from the perimeter which is unique in the league and teams can't handle it. I think Bzedlik and Kiki are the guys who turned this team around. Getting Carmelo helps but not as much the entire backcourt being revamped and the change in style has.

Hopefully Bosh...and maybe Wade...can extend the ROY race to three or four deep.

Forgetting someone?

Jarvis Hayes. He's filling in for Stack very well. Probably one of the underated rookies this year.

Indeed I forgot about Hayes. He's a very good player. Hopefully he can make that race five deep.