King James and his new empire

Denver+Cleveland have the best chances of getting him followed by:
Raptors
Miami
Clippers

most likely these are the five teams that will get the 1st pick.
Do you think James is even gonna go first?
Which of these teams does he fit good with.
Denver, well Hilario is the only one that might be decent, Camby is good if playing. So James will be the #1 option definately on this team right off the bat.
Cleveland, I think he wants to play here the most, he'll pair up with Ricky and Dajuan here along with some other players that don't mix together at all. Maybe James is the missing piece. Or will he just break up the chemistry they are trying to form. 2many scorers wit Ricky and Dajuan?
Raptors, oOOOOO! a BIG three between James, Carter, and Peterson. Or will this work out since niether VC or Lebron will want to submit to the other.
Miami, James, Jones, and Butler? Not a bad lineup, he'll just add on to the young players the HEat have a lot of. Not a bad one, what do u think?
Clippers, Odom, Brand, and James, could this work out, they, like the Heat could be a stacked up team.
I didn't give all the facts so if throw some more on the floor.

I think Denver would be a better fit , Mainly because they need a shooting guard. If the nuggets resign Howard and a few other good pick ups then they will have a really good team next year.

I think Denver would be a better fit , Mainly because they need a shooting guard. If the nuggets resign Howard and a few other good pick ups then they will have a really good team next year.

those words were taken right out of my mouth. All those other teams have prominent shooting guards or small forwards
Clippers: Odom, maggette, richardson, pike
Raptors: lammond murray, VC, Mo-pete
Cavs-ricky, juanny, jumaine jones
Miami: EJ, Caron (well one of them would have to come off the bench)

let's hope the clippers don't get him...or carmelo...or milicic...

I say Denver, for the same reason as everyone else. Two positions the Nuggets could really use an upgrade at (especially in the form of LeBron James) would be the shooting guard/small forward positions. It would not solve all their problems (lack of a PG experienced in running a ballclub, weak bench), but it would be a boost.

Do you think James is even gonna go first?

I'd say he will. Last year there were still questions as to whether Ming would go first, but I think it was pretty much given all along that he'd be the top pick. LeBron has had too much hype and has shown too much talent and promise for him to slip now - unless there's an unpleasant non-basketball related incident.

agreed, James would be a better fit in Denver then the listed teams. most definitely if denver can lure Arenas from GS.

i do think James will be the first pick. C. Anthony is better then him and will be better then him the first 2 years they are in the league. Keep in mind, Anthony has been playing against better comp then James has. But down the road James has the potential to be a much better player. Just my opinion on that one.

here's a scenario where James may not go #1:

on a side note: detroit owns the memphis pick if memphis doesn't get the 1st pick (from the otis thorpe trade). if the lottery balls land memphis the 3rd pick, that detroit team would be awesome if they grab C Anthony

Perhaps he could develop into a big point guard? He is a great passer and seems unselfish. I'm not sure how good he would be at setting up plays but he can make good passes.

Perhaps he could develop into a big point guard? He is a great passer and seems unselfish. I'm not sure how good he would be at setting up plays but he can make good passes.

i dont know, its one thing been able to run point in highschool and another running point in the nba , iam not disagreeing iam sure its i thought on a lot of coach's mind's. But it remind's me of when larry Hughes came into the league, team's have tryed him at point but it hasnt worked out and i dont think it would work with James.

Heheh I remember Hughes at the point.. that was so long ago... What position did he play for the Wiz this past season again?

But the thing is, James appears to want to be a distributer of the basketball. I'm not so sure how successfull he'll be, but I think if he was on the Heat that would be the best way for him to get minutes.

But the thing is, James appears to want to be a distributer of the basketball. I'm not so sure how successfull he'll be, but I think if he was on the Heat that would be the best way for him to get minutes.

that's the thing, whatever team he goes to they will be getting him minutes wherever they can , sf - sg -pg so he could end up playing pg if he go's somewhere like miami or cleveland.

One thing has always bothered me about Lebron and I could never quite put my finger on it...I just figured it out.

Lebron is slow. I don't see him as an elite scorer at the next level because he won't be able to get to the basket. Without that threat he won't be drive-and-kicking or be able to create a lot of space for his jumper. Speaking of which...his J is also very streaky. Because of these two factors I don't see him playing the 1 or 2 at an elite level in the NBA. He's not going to be Kobe...Kobe is much, much quicker.

His best assets are his strength, leaping and passing ability. He seems like the prototypical Grant Hill-style point forward. He'll probably be a good spot-up shooter also. Unless he drops 20 pounds (240 is a lot to haul around) and shows a significant increase in speed...he's not going to be what people think.

As for which team gets him...well Denver would clearly be the best fit. They have very few swingmen in general and Denver is far away from the intense spotlight and family/friend pressure he would receive in Cleveland.

well i dont care where lebron james goes, coz i want my cavs to get Carmelo
Carmelo will have a better rookie season, dont know about later i nthere careers who will end up being better, but if i had the number 1 pick and i was a crap team looking for a bit more success i would take Anthony.

He lead his NCAA team to the Title in only his freshman year!
thats impressive

[echo]He would fit best at Denver[/echo] ...But i'd like to see him with Cleveland

One thing has always bothered me about Lebron and I could never quite put my finger on it...I just figured it out.

Lebron is slow. I don't see him as an elite scorer at the next level because he won't be able to get to the basket. Without that threat he won't be drive-and-kicking or be able to create a lot of space for his jumper. Speaking of which...his J is also very streaky. Because of these two factors I don't see him playing the 1 or 2 at an elite level in the NBA. He's not going to be Kobe...Kobe is much, much quicker.

His best assets are his strength, leaping and passing ability. He seems like the prototypical Grant Hill-style point forward. He'll probably be a good spot-up shooter also. Unless he drops 20 pounds (240 is a lot to haul around) and shows a significant increase in speed...he's not going to be what people think.

As for which team gets him...well Denver would clearly be the best fit. They have very few swingmen in general and Denver is far away from the intense spotlight and family/friend pressure he would receive in Cleveland.

Yes!
I have always been having some thing about him, but never figured it out, but Yes! thats it! He is too slow. That won't make him the scorer he is now in the next level, but maybe he'll be alright. I mean it's not like he gets a whole lot of points off driving in highschool too though. Maybe he'll be a post gaurd in the L. No kobe for sure though, not quick enough. Still i think he'll be an argument for the best in his time.
About C, I would take Anthony over James if i needed a player for both positions. Mainly because he has proven that he can compete in the next level (4sure). I mean what if Bron comes in and is a bust, he can't do it in the next level (nxt 2 level in his case.)

One thing has always bothered me about Lebron and I could never quite put my finger on it...I just figured it out.

Lebron is slow. I don't see him as an elite scorer at the next level because he won't be able to get to the basket. Without that threat he won't be drive-and-kicking or be able to create a lot of space for his jumper. Speaking of which...his J is also very streaky. Because of these two factors I don't see him playing the 1 or 2 at an elite level in the NBA. He's not going to be Kobe...Kobe is much, much quicker.

His best assets are his strength, leaping and passing ability. He seems like the prototypical Grant Hill-style point forward. He'll probably be a good spot-up shooter also. Unless he drops 20 pounds (240 is a lot to haul around) and shows a significant increase in speed...he's not going to be what people think.

As for which team gets him...well Denver would clearly be the best fit. They have very few swingmen in general and Denver is far away from the intense spotlight and family/friend pressure he would receive in Cleveland.

Yes!
I have always been having some thing about him, but never figured it out, but Yes! thats it! He is too slow. That won't make him the scorer he is now in the next level, but maybe he'll be alright. I mean it's not like he gets a whole lot of points off driving in highschool too though. Maybe he'll be a post gaurd in the L. No kobe for sure though, not quick enough. Still i think he'll be an argument for the best in his time.
About C, I would take Anthony over James if i needed a player for both positions. Mainly because he has proven that he can compete in the next level (4sure). I mean what if Bron comes in and is a bust, he can't do it in the next level (nxt 2 level in his case.)

LOL @ Lebron being slow.

As if Magic Johnson were "fast"


Anyway...say you pass on Lebron and take Melo first.

Then in the following years Lebron is a superstar and Melo isnt. Your franchise will come under huge scrutiny.

Lets say you do take Bron with the 1st pick and he doesnt pan out. So be it....your franchise just sold out the building for the 3 years on the hype alone. Its a win/win situation.

Lebron is just so much more advanced in his game than Melo.

Lebron has the strength of a power forward, the court vision of a point guard, the versatility of a small forward, and the explosiveness of a shooting guard.

Melo will be a solid player...but Lebron has far more potential.

And please stop feeding me this crap about Melo being better because he played one year of college ball. Thats nonsense. Individual talents are what matter.

And besides.......if for some strange reason Lebron doesnt go first. Then it will be Milicic not Melo.

If LeBron doesn't go 1st it's definately going to be Carmelo. Unless Chicago get the first pick....hang on, Krause is gone!!! You either take LeBron or Carmelo, depends what you need. Cleveland definately do not need another swingman.

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excuse me mr.Cent but who is this 'Crouse'

I think it's pretty obvious Clinton was talking about Jerry Krause. And in any event, he didn't write "Crouse", just misspelled Krause with a C. People (such as bballer22) should be able to make spelling mistakes without you mocking and demeaning them - which as I'm sure everyone is aware, is against the rules.

Stop causing trouble and trying to start flames by making these kind of remarks. Behave yourself, because I'm fed up with giving you warnings and second chances. If you don't change your attitude, then you'll be deleted, as well as any second accounts you might have (also a rule violation) or any subsequent accounts you may register.

yes boss

then you'll be deleted, as well as any second accounts you might have (also a rule violation) or any subsequent accounts you may register

but if i do keep demeaning others (which i won't) how will u know it is me that registers again

yes boss

then you'll be deleted, as well as any second accounts you might have (also a rule violation) or any subsequent accounts you may register

but if i do keep demeaning others (which i won't) how will u know it is me that registers again

IP check? Ofcourse there are many ways around that, like proxys, and dial up modems don't keep the same IP either.

yes boss

Cut out the attitude.

but if i do keep demeaning others (which i won't) how will u know it is me that registers again

The same way I have in the past. I can recognise when a person I've deleted signs up again.

I'll say it again - fix up/drop the attitude and stop demeaning others.

A lot of it comes down to whether what you say is absolutely necessary. Questioning bballer22's age and demeaning them over a spelling mistake is not necessary. It's pretty obvious which players he was talking about. Questioning an alternate spelling of centre/center is not necessary. None of those posts contributed to the discussion - they were made simply to demean a forum member.

Also, I'm not saying you have to agree with everyone's viewpoint, but you can say you disagree with them without calling them a loser, retard, or any other name. There is no need to make any discussion personal by any form of threats or insults.

Finally, when a moderator or admin asks that you behave, and you don't, then the requests are going to become less polite and action is going to be threatened. In other words, what your behaviour is getting way out of line and in the interest of keeping a friendly and productive atmosphere, we're threatening rather than warning. It's therefore advisable you adhere to those instructions, because like I said, it's no problem for me to keep deleting someone who signs up again and continues to misbehave, because I can recognise those people.

IP check? Ofcourse there are many ways around that, like proxys, and dial up modems don't keep the same IP either.

Yeah, that's the problem with IP checks. It's why I don't like to ban IPs, it's neither effective nor fair if I use a wildcard in the IP address.

Lebron has the strength of a power forward

No he doesn't, this kid could not play Power Foward in the NBA.