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seattle roster makeover...

Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:43 am

heres an article from realgm concerning the sonics.... pretty crazy
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The Sonics have many problems; firstly they are 19-29, one game ahead of Portland. What great players does Portland have?

Secondly, I’ve always thought that building a team around a shooter is a terrible idea, especially a shooter than plays matador defense, and doesn’t get to the hole or free throw line.

Third, the Sonics offer a large contract to Rashard Lewis, who is a 6’10” version of Allen, this team isn’t going anywhere.

Lastly, the owners have wanted to drop players costs for a few years now, because the team has a lack of revenue coming in (because they don’t have a winning team).

Therefore the need for a rebuild is evident. The only players I see as worth building around are: Ridnour, Swift and Petro. Everyone else is expendable.

Dallas trade:
Keith Van Horn (expirer)
Marquis Daniels (potential)
DeSagana Diop (potential)
1st Round Draft Pick 2007
1st Round Draft Pick 2009

Seattle trade:
Ray Allen
Vitaly Potapenko
Vladimir Radmanovic
Nick Collison

The Mavericks would love to add a shooter like Ray Allen, at the expense of only losing Q-Daniels. Van Horn is a large expirer, and the Sonics will have a heap of cash off the books coming into next season, whether they use it or not is up to them. Potapenko is unhappy here, as is Radmanovic, so they are moved as well. Dallas gets a HUGE talent upgrade, and pays for it in draft picks.

Chicago trade:
Tim Thomas (expirer)
Luol Deng (potential)
Jannero Pargo
1st Round Draft Pick 2006 (Chicago)

Seattle trade:
Rashard Lewis
Danny Fortson

The Bulls are a team that is floundering. They need a real go to guy that can give them a solid 20 ppg. Ben Gordon is a great scorer but he scores in bunches, and is not that reliable, the Bulls live and die by Gordon really. Thomas is an expirer, they have been looking at moving him anyway (with no takers), so swapping him with Deng and Chicago’s first rounder (late lottery) for Rashard Lewis is a great deal for the Bulls. The other option here for the Sonics is to look at trading Lewis to his hometown Rockets for David Wesley, Luther Head and the Rockets 1st Rounder.

Denver trade:
Earl Watson
Second Round Draft Pick 2006 (Denver)

Seattle trade:
Damien Wilkins
Rick Brunson
Johan Petro

This trade moves some players that are clogging up the rotation, while adding some frontcourt depth to injury-prone Denver. Petro is a player that The Nuggets liked, and now they get him as well as a good shooting guard.

The Sonics would boast a line-up of:
CT: Diop/Swift/Moore
PF: Van Horn/Evans
SF: Deng/Thomas
SG: Daniels/Murray
PG: Ridnour/Watson

As well as these added draft picks:

1st Round Draft Pick 2006 (Chicago)
2nd Round Draft Pick 2006 (Denver)
1st Round Draft Pick 2007 (Dallas)
1st Round Draft Pick 2009 (Dallas)

Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:47 am

If things were that easier. This is not NBA Live.

Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:49 am

I like the idea of completely starting again, but not necessarily this method of doing it.

Why trade Petro for Earl Watson and a 2nd rounder? He was only drafted this season, if he and Swift (who is playing well) can develop at a natural rate they should be decent players within two years.

Getting draft picks from Dallas and Chicago is completely pointless, add Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis to those teams respectively and they're late 1st rounders at best. I prefer the other trade they mention, Lewis for Wesley, Head and a 1st... if the 1st was from this season I'd definitely do it. Wesley's decent, Head could be very good and Houston suck balls so it'll be a lottery pick.

Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:52 am

damn no one could ever pull that off with money issues

Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:32 pm

The author of that article doesn't know jack all about the Sonics.

The reason the Sonics are in financial trouble isn't because the team isn't winning, hell look at the Knicks & LA & Chicago, all make major money. There are three killers for Sonic finances:

1. They don't generate income from games other than ticket price. All concessions, all drinks, all the extras goes to the city. David Stern was quoted as saying it's the worst financial situation for any team in any city. No other team in the NBA has that kind of penalty with their home court.

2. Seattle is one of the smallest NBA towns at 500k. It actually has the same or slightly smaller population than Charlotte, and it was tiny compared to (pre-Katrina) New Orleans (1.2M). There aren't that many people to support the team.

3. The sports fans in Seattle are much more into Mariners and Seahawks, the Sonics are a distant third.

Basically, very little of the Sonic's financial problems has to do with Ray Allen or Rashard. Trading those two away will pretty much seal the doom for the Sonics.

Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:33 pm

The Sonics will be getting ripped off big time.

(N)

Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:57 pm

maes wrote:The author of that article doesn't know jack all about the Sonics.

The reason the Sonics are in financial trouble isn't because the team isn't winning, hell look at the Knicks & LA & Chicago, all make major money. There are three killers for Sonic finances:

1. They don't generate income from games other than ticket price. All concessions, all drinks, all the extras goes to the city. David Stern was quoted as saying it's the worst financial situation for any team in any city. No other team in the NBA has that kind of penalty with their home court.

2. Seattle is one of the smallest NBA towns at 500k. It actually has the same or slightly smaller population than Charlotte, and it was tiny compared to (pre-Katrina) New Orleans (1.2M). There aren't that many people to support the team.

3. The sports fans in Seattle are much more into Mariners and Seahawks, the Sonics are a distant third.

Basically, very little of the Sonic's financial problems has to do with Ray Allen or Rashard. Trading those two away will pretty much seal the doom for the Sonics.



doesnt the nba share revenue???

Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:24 pm

#12 wrote:
maes wrote:The author of that article doesn't know jack all about the Sonics.

The reason the Sonics are in financial trouble isn't because the team isn't winning, hell look at the Knicks & LA & Chicago, all make major money. There are three killers for Sonic finances:

1. They don't generate income from games other than ticket price. All concessions, all drinks, all the extras goes to the city. David Stern was quoted as saying it's the worst financial situation for any team in any city. No other team in the NBA has that kind of penalty with their home court.

2. Seattle is one of the smallest NBA towns at 500k. It actually has the same or slightly smaller population than Charlotte, and it was tiny compared to (pre-Katrina) New Orleans (1.2M). There aren't that many people to support the team.

3. The sports fans in Seattle are much more into Mariners and Seahawks, the Sonics are a distant third.

Basically, very little of the Sonic's financial problems has to do with Ray Allen or Rashard. Trading those two away will pretty much seal the doom for the Sonics.



doesnt the nba share revenue???


Don't think so.

The NFL does partly.


Seattle is one of the smallest NBA towns at 500k. It actually has the same or slightly smaller population than Charlotte, and it was tiny compared to (pre-Katrina) New Orleans (1.2M). There aren't that many people to support the team.


Sacramento is 416k, and they get a full house almost every night.

Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:53 pm

Drex wrote:If things were that easier. This is not NBA Live.


:lol:
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