TRADE: Knicks get Jalen Rose

The New York Knicks have acquired Toronto Raptors guard/forward Jalen Rose and a first-round pick in exchange for power forward Antonio Davis, ESPN's Stephen A. Smith reports.

Davis was a likely target to be traded because of his expiring contract.

from ESPN.com

Interesting trade isnt it?

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I don't like how we offered a first-round pick. I'm glad to see Jalen gone, but I wouldn't give up a first round pick.

I'm sure there's more involved, as in what year the first round pick is, and such. No details yet as far as I'm concerned.

Edit: From Real GM: "It is in all likelihood that the Pick will be the Denver one acquired in the Raptor-Nets trade last Year."

Didn't Antonio Davis bitch about Toronto because schools don't teach African-American history there? Should be interesting to see how he responds going back there.

Wow! This is real interesting with Isiah Thomas shipping the one guy that LB had a bond with following that Larry Brown vs. Knicks story.

I wonder if Jalen is the right guy at this moment for the Knicks. Oh well, I will pray that Larry and Jalen get along somehow and the team does well.

... I don't know if I like it or not. Do you think Davis will start at center?

I can't find anywhere that this happened.

I'm not sure. I dont think he will be making any significant impact regardless but at least yall got rid of that tumor.

Something tells me, davis won't play a single minute for the raptors for the rest of the season.

From a Knicks fan standpoint, all I like about it is the first round draft pick.

At least we'll have something to look forward to.

There's probably at least 5 Knicks I would have traded before Davis though.

I can't find anywhere that this happened.

Check the NBA section of espn.com.

Didn't Antonio Davis bitch about Toronto because schools don't teach African-American history there?

No fucking shit. Its CANADA, not AMERICA.

fucking dumbass. (not poster, Antonio Davis).

I can't find anywhere that this happened.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2317958


btw... I think the rapts got kinda ripped.


Rose>Davis in the first place, even though rose had somewhat of an attitude.

Didn't Antonio Davis bitch about Toronto because schools don't teach African-American history there?

No fucking shit. Its CANADA, not AMERICA.

fucking dumbass. (not poster, Antonio Davis).

I can't find anywhere that this happened.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2317958


btw... I think the rapts got kinda ripped.


Rose>Davis in the first place, even though rose had somewhat of an attitude.

I think they were more happy to get rid of that $15-16m hes making this year.

this means extra cash to re-sign james (who bosh wants to stay, so we have to keep bosh happy), AD contract expires at end of year, more playing time for joey, but it can mean less for sow, this is a weak draft also, so im happy if davis shows up

we basically traded our first round pick for to save 17 million dollars so im happy

LOL i wanna see Davis' reaction to this. Surely he's not too happy. I also believe this mean we can re-sign Mike James. But I kinda miss Rose. He really never complain about playing for the raps. I wish him well. We'll see him tonight.

Pape Sow is sick a blocking, he might not be good on offence, but jhe is on defence. He takes charges, isn't affraid to dive for loose balls, and stuff. I personally thing Sow is more of an impact that Joey G. AD will probably have to earn his minutes, and share the minutes with Sow, and maybe with Charlie V.

According to WFAN's Chris Russo, Rose will make $16.9 mil in 2007. So Isiah added MORE salary????? OMFG....I give up.

FIRE ISIAH NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

great deal for toronto!

Losing a 16-20 pick is a small price to pay to get rid of Rose, who is not in their longterm plans, and his contract. Davis may not even report to Toronto after he passes his physcial, leaving the possibility of him coming back to the Bulls

as for NYK- Jamal, Eddy, and Jalen Reunited! (and i'm not sure that's a good thing). Nyk gets a 1st round pick and Zeke at least knows how to pick 'em. You can say they paid ~$30 some odd mil to get it hehe (not conting luxury tax!)

the only thing i don't like about this trade is that it should add a few wins to NYK, lessening the amount of lottery balls for the pick the Bulls own

EDIT:

Matt's buddy- Mr Hollinger posted his reaction to this trade:

Is this the first salvo in the war?

After Friday's trade, I'm wondering. The Knicks acquired forward Jalen Rose from Toronto on Friday in exchange for forward Antonio Davis, which on the surface wasn't a terrible move. The Knicks had a surplus of big men and a dearth of small forwards, so exchanging overpaid players to meet their roster needs seems perfectly logical.

Additionally, the Knicks get a first-round pick in the deal (though not Toronto's -- it's reported to be Denver's pick from an earlier trade and will probably end up around No. 20 overall).

So on the face of it, all seems well. Just beneath the surface, however, one can see lots of other motivations for this deal -- such as the continuation of an ongoing power play between Brown and Isiah Thomas upstairs. Davis was one of only two "Brown guys" on the Knicks roster -- Qyntel Woods being the other -- so for Isiah Thomas to unceremoniously dump him to one of the league's least desirable locations could be interpreted as a shot across Brown's bow.

Moreover, there's the player he was traded for -- Rose. His contract isn't even that terrible by Knicks standards -- yes, he's makes the maximum despite defending the minimum, but there is only a year and a half left on his deal. That means the Knicks could play the old contract-switcheroo game again next season, dumping Rose for some equally overpaid veteran in order to obtain yet another draft pick.

But if there's a player who is the antithesis of what Larry Brown is about, it's Rose. Brown likes his players mentally tough and defensive-minded; Rose is completely offensive-minded and bristles at the slightest suggestion that he might no longer be a star. The two were paired briefly in Indiana and mixed about as well as peanut butter and tacos. Brown grew incensed by Rose's defensive lapses and banished him to the pine, and Rose got upset.

Oddly enough, this pattern later repeated itself when Rose played for Thomas in Indiana, which is why I didn't expect to see Rose turn up in New York.

Incidentally, Davis, now a Raptor for the second time, may agree to a buyout with Toronto, and if so, one imagines he'll eventually land back home in Chicago.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/ ... id=2318089

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Davis may not even report to Toronto after he passes his physcial, leaving the possibility of him coming back to the Bulls

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't thinking the same thing.

Not sure about the deal from New York's point of view, the draft pick is nice but Jalen Rose is not exactly the player I'd acquire if I was trying to get the squad to play as a team. Toronto will get an aging but solid frontcourt player should Davis report, otherwise they'll get cap relief this coming offseason.

Ahhh I like Jalen Rose but you know w/e helps the team save money. Hopefully Davis can play like he did back than when he was in Toronto.

No fucking shit. Its CANADA, not AMERICA.

I live in Canada, I know that, but you're missing my point. My point was, would Antonio Davis be happy going back to Toronto when he expressed desire to leave a few years ago?

I think he got your point, you didn't get his.

He meant why would they teach black american history when they live in Canada? He was mocking Davis' logic.

Now that I think about it, didnt Jalen Rose have one of his worst seasons as an NBA player under Brown in Indiana? Again, let me pray that all goes well.

basically its toronto get 14 million relief of cap for rose and and a first rounder. davis most likely wont report to toronto

RAPTORS ACQUIRE CAP RELIEF, DAVIS FROM NEW YORK

(February 3, 2006) -- The Toronto Raptors announced Friday they have acquired $10 million in salary cap relief and former Raptors centre/forward Antonio Davis from the New York Knicks in exchange for guard/forward Jalen Rose, Denver's first-round draft pick in the 2006 NBA Draft and an undisclosed amount of cash. The Nuggets' pick had been acquired from New Jersey as part of the December 2000 Vince Carter trade.

"As part of our strategic plan, one of the top priorities to move this franchise forward has to be to get under the salary cap. I've never seen a team rebuild itself without starting from that point," said Wayne Embry, interim general manager of the Raptors. "This trade presents the opportunity for us to acquire $10 million in cap room. Being under the cap gives us flexibility to sign and trade, trade picks for a desired player, make multiple player deals for quality, and broker deals for value.

“Agents and players consider cap management--the ability to pay and also build--important when selecting a team. Retention of our own players is much easier when under the cap. We must have the ability to keep players that we have developed, while seeking opportunities to sign players others have developed. This trade is a big step toward being able to accomplish that.”

With Tuesday’s trade of Aaron Williams to New Orleans for two future second-round draft picks, the Raptors owned two first-round and two-second round selections in June’s draft.

“We’re a young team and potentially adding four more rookies through the draft plus our players in Europe (Uros Slokar and Roko Ukic) next season would only make us younger,” Embry added. “We have to ask ourselves if we would even have the roster spots for them, and then consider how long it will take them to develop. Building exclusively through the draft is more difficult in today’s NBA. This trade positions us better to pursue free agents who would be superior to mid-level exception players that we otherwise would be limited to consider.”

Davis makes a return to the Raptors after two seasons in Chicago and the current campaign in New York. He played for the Raptors from 1999-2003, appearing in 302 games and averaging 13.1 points, 9.3 rebounds and 35.2 minutes. He is Toronto’s franchise leader in total rebounds (2,803), offensive rebounds (942), defensive rebounds (1,861) and rebounds per game (9.3). He ranks second in blocks (404) and fourth in points (3,959).

Davis was traded by the Raptors to Chicago, along with Jerome Williams and Chris Jefferies, on December 1, 2003 in exchange for Rose, Donyell Marshall and Lonny Baxter. He was originally acquired by Toronto on August 1, 1999 from Indiana for the draft rights to Jonathan Bender.

Davis averaged 5.0 points, 4.8 rebounds and 20.8 minutes for the Knicks this season. The 37-year-old is in his 14th NBA season and owns career averages of 10.1 points and 7.5 rebounds in 895 games. In postseason play, he has seen action in 93 contests with averages of 9.7 points and 7.4 rebounds. He appeared in 20 playoff games with Raptors, posting averages of 16.1 points and 10.6 rebounds. He made his lone All-Star Game appearance in 2001 as a member of the Raptors. Also, Davis and Raptors head coach Sam Mitchell were teammates with the Indiana Pacers for two seasons (1993-95).

Rose played in 46 games with the Raptors this season where he averaged 12.1 points, 2.8 rebounds and 26.9 minutes. In 177 total games in a Toronto uniform, Rose averaged 16.2 points, 3.4 rebounds and 32.2 minutes.

Rose, 33, is currently in his 12th NBA season. He has played in 868 regular season and 58 playoff games.

Say thank you to your Raptors Insider.

I heard Antonio DAvis WANTS to be coached by Sam Mitchell (that's what TSN said).