Grizzlies? Hawks? It will be Knicks
Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:24 am
IT'S UP TO ERICK
ERICK DAMPIER
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July 19, 2004 -- It's D-Day for Erick Dampier.
The Warriors have accepted the Knicks' sign-and-trade offer of Nazr Mohammed and Othella Harrington, but before agreeing to sign with the Knicks, Dampier, the 7-foot free-agent center, has a meeting with the Hawks' brass today in Atlanta, sources said.
The Knicks want Dampier to visit New York tomorrow before he makes his decision, which could come as soon as today, but Knicks president Isiah Thomas has had phone conversations with Dampier. The Knicks have offered Dampier six years starting at $9 million after Thomas met Saturday night in L.A. with agent Dan Fegan.
The Hawks can sign Dampier outright because they are under the cap and can offer a maximum deal. However, the Knicks can extend a seventh year under sign-and-trade rules.
Even though Dampier is a southerner from Mississippi, his preference could well be the Knicks over the Hawks. Dampier, who averaged 12.3 points and 12.0 rebounds in finally fulfilling his potential, has reservations about the Hawks, wanting the team to upgrade its roster.
The Pacers also were talking to Golden State about a sign-and-trade, but The Post reported Saturday that Thomas became the front-runner when he made an offer of Mohammed and Harrington. Golden State GM Chris Mullin needs a backup center who can score behind Adonal Foyle, and Mohammed is as good as he'll get for his salary ($5.25M). Mullin had wanted from the Pacers a package of Jonathan Bender and Austin Croshere. Pacers president Donnie Walsh views Bender as untouchable and was rejected in a Croshere/Scot Pollard scenario.
Walsh, who drafted Dampier in Indiana, told The Post recently, "Erick's the second-strongest player in the league. He can rebound, block shots and he was a double-double guy last year."
Golden State was pushing Nick Van Exel on the Knicks in a larger Dampier deal, but Isiah had scant interest. Van Exel is a point guard but can play shooting guard despite his lack of size. However, Chicago's Jamal Crawford is a much better fit — younger, bigger, improving. The Knicks will have to get lucky to be able to get both Dampier and Crawford in sign-and-trades, as Harrington, who wants out in a big way, was a key component to the Crawford talks because of his expiring contract.
"Erick wants to win a championship and the Knicks are definitely in the mix," said Ed Jones, Dampier's business manager and director of his kids foundation.
ERICK DAMPIER
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July 19, 2004 -- It's D-Day for Erick Dampier.
The Warriors have accepted the Knicks' sign-and-trade offer of Nazr Mohammed and Othella Harrington, but before agreeing to sign with the Knicks, Dampier, the 7-foot free-agent center, has a meeting with the Hawks' brass today in Atlanta, sources said.
The Knicks want Dampier to visit New York tomorrow before he makes his decision, which could come as soon as today, but Knicks president Isiah Thomas has had phone conversations with Dampier. The Knicks have offered Dampier six years starting at $9 million after Thomas met Saturday night in L.A. with agent Dan Fegan.
The Hawks can sign Dampier outright because they are under the cap and can offer a maximum deal. However, the Knicks can extend a seventh year under sign-and-trade rules.
Even though Dampier is a southerner from Mississippi, his preference could well be the Knicks over the Hawks. Dampier, who averaged 12.3 points and 12.0 rebounds in finally fulfilling his potential, has reservations about the Hawks, wanting the team to upgrade its roster.
The Pacers also were talking to Golden State about a sign-and-trade, but The Post reported Saturday that Thomas became the front-runner when he made an offer of Mohammed and Harrington. Golden State GM Chris Mullin needs a backup center who can score behind Adonal Foyle, and Mohammed is as good as he'll get for his salary ($5.25M). Mullin had wanted from the Pacers a package of Jonathan Bender and Austin Croshere. Pacers president Donnie Walsh views Bender as untouchable and was rejected in a Croshere/Scot Pollard scenario.
Walsh, who drafted Dampier in Indiana, told The Post recently, "Erick's the second-strongest player in the league. He can rebound, block shots and he was a double-double guy last year."
Golden State was pushing Nick Van Exel on the Knicks in a larger Dampier deal, but Isiah had scant interest. Van Exel is a point guard but can play shooting guard despite his lack of size. However, Chicago's Jamal Crawford is a much better fit — younger, bigger, improving. The Knicks will have to get lucky to be able to get both Dampier and Crawford in sign-and-trades, as Harrington, who wants out in a big way, was a key component to the Crawford talks because of his expiring contract.
"Erick wants to win a championship and the Knicks are definitely in the mix," said Ed Jones, Dampier's business manager and director of his kids foundation.
Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:34 am
I just dont see how othella harrington and nazr mohammed is more valuable than swift, wright and possibly watson or battier, wright and watson. 
Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:08 am
sbhzmafia wrote:I just dont see how othella harrington and nazr mohammed is more valuable than swift, wright and possibly watson or battier, wright and watson.
Dampier/Mutumbo
Kurt Thomas/Sweetney
Tim Thomas/Shandon
Allan Houston/ Penny
Marbury/Frank Williams
looks like a good team on paper in the east, especially since sweetney showed a lot of potential
Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:24 am
Amphatoast wrote:sbhzmafia wrote:I just dont see how othella harrington and nazr mohammed is more valuable than swift, wright and possibly watson or battier, wright and watson.
Dampier/Mutumbo
Kurt Thomas/Sweetney
Tim Thomas/Shandon
Allan Houston/ Penny
Marbury/Frank Williams
looks like a good team on paper in the east, especially since sweetney showed a lot of potential
Wright/Mutombo
Swift/Kurt/Sweetney
Thomas/Anderson
Houston/Penny
Marbury/Watson
That's better and they are alot more deeper. Wright can also play center in the East
Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:24 am
wright can't handle shaq or yao
dampier much better
knicks are for real now, they want a ring, Isiah ain't Scott Layden.
dampier much better
knicks are for real now, they want a ring, Isiah ain't Scott Layden.
Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:42 am
yeah, with dampier knicks are dangerous. East just got stronger.
Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:40 pm
According to ESPN News, Dampier didn't want to go to ATL anyway and the only reason the Warriors put out the Knicks trade was because they wanted Memphis to make another offer. So obviously they still want to trade with the Grizzlies. The Knicks won't be dangerous with just getting Dampier. They need more work than that IMO.
What's a better deal for the Warriors?
With Grizzlies trade:
C-Wright/Foyle
PF-Swift/Cliff/Murphy
SF-Dunleavy/Murphy
SG-J-Rich/Pietrus
PG-Fisher/Claxton/Watson/NVE
They probably going to trade NVE and another one of their PG's for another position.
With Knicks trade:
C-Nazr/Foyle
PF-Cliff/Murphy/Harrington(Why play someone that didn't even get that much time for the Knicks?)
SF-Dunleavy/Murphy
SG-J-Rich/Pietrus
PG-Fisher/Claxton/NVE
What's a better deal for the Warriors?
With Grizzlies trade:
C-Wright/Foyle
PF-Swift/Cliff/Murphy
SF-Dunleavy/Murphy
SG-J-Rich/Pietrus
PG-Fisher/Claxton/Watson/NVE
They probably going to trade NVE and another one of their PG's for another position.
With Knicks trade:
C-Nazr/Foyle
PF-Cliff/Murphy/Harrington(Why play someone that didn't even get that much time for the Knicks?)
SF-Dunleavy/Murphy
SG-J-Rich/Pietrus
PG-Fisher/Claxton/NVE
Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:14 pm
they want harrington because his contract is off the books this year. Always great to save a little money.
Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:40 pm
What is Memphis offering? Only Wright and Swift?
Also, do you guys see Van Exel comin' along with Dampier in the deal? I hope that happens.
Also, do you guys see Van Exel comin' along with Dampier in the deal? I hope that happens.
Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:48 pm
Very good trade for the Knicks if they get Dampier, Isiah Thomas is starting to rebuild a good team. Finally 
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Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:26 am
Tales wrote:What is Memphis offering? Only Wright and Swift?
Also, do you guys see Van Exel comin' along with Dampier in the deal? I hope that happens.
I think Nick should go to Memphis with Dampier for Swift and somebody else.That woude make them a real contender havin Nick come off the bench like he did in dallas.He was a killa back then
Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:25 am
We already have 4 PG's, why do we need Nick? Portland has reportedly offered Dale Davis and a cap filler to be named later for Nick Van Exel that will completely mess the Knicks trade up because the Warriors won't have no need for another big man if they get Dale Davis 
So Grizz are still in the hunt and they said ATL is going to offer Swift something which West is just going to match and probably send him to the Warriors.
So Grizz are still in the hunt and they said ATL is going to offer Swift something which West is just going to match and probably send him to the Warriors.
Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:12 pm
wright can't handle shaq or yao
Well, who can??
Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:13 pm
sbhzmafia wrote:According to ESPN News, Dampier didn't want to go to ATL anyway and the only reason the Warriors put out the Knicks trade was because they wanted Memphis to make another offer. So obviously they still want to trade with the Grizzlies. The Knicks won't be dangerous with just getting Dampier. They need more work than that IMO.
What's a better deal for the Warriors?
With Grizzlies trade:
C-Wright/Foyle
PF-Swift/Cliff/Murphy
SF-Dunleavy/Murphy
SG-J-Rich/Pietrus
PG-Fisher/Claxton/Watson/NVE
They probably going to trade NVE and another one of their PG's for another position.
With Knicks trade:
C-Nazr/Foyle
PF-Cliff/Murphy/Harrington(Why play someone that didn't even get that much time for the Knicks?)
SF-Dunleavy/Murphy
SG-J-Rich/Pietrus
PG-Fisher/Claxton/NVE
If Murph is out there playing the 3 for more than 5 minutes, I'll be the first to have MM's head.
What is Memphis offering? Only Wright and Swift?
Also, do you guys see Van Exel comin' along with Dampier in the deal? I hope that happens.
I don't think they're offering both. That would leave them thin behind Gasol/Damp...not sure the W's want both after getting DD.
Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:10 pm
Well on the news the Grizzlies met with Dampier today and will meet with him again tomorrow. Grizzlies sitll have a chance and they are planning on offering Swift 
who I don't want to go, but if we need to get our big men maybe it's his time to leave sadly
who I don't want to go, but if we need to get our big men maybe it's his time to leave sadly