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Postby The Big Racist on Fri Jun 27, 2003 12:21 pm

washinghton wizards signed jerry stackhouse to a 2 year extension!

Washington Wizards General Manager Wes Unseld announced today that the team has agreed to terms with guard Jerry Stackhouse on a two-year extension. Per team policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed. Stackhouse had two years remaining on his original contract.




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Postby Bill Russell on Fri Jun 27, 2003 1:58 pm

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Bad deal... As of right now, he will have to shift to SF... For Jarvis Hayes is gonna be the SG...

But I wouldn't pay 9 per for Stack... No hell...
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Postby air gordon on Fri Jun 27, 2003 2:39 pm

wonder why stack chose to resign. the wiz will be in rebuilding mode again- kwame and jeffreis should be getting a lot minutes, shot opportunities. the wiz don't seem like they will playoff contenders next year. i figured stack would want to go to a winner
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Stack stayed in Washington because

Postby madhooper on Fri Jun 27, 2003 3:37 pm

He stayed because he wants to be the only superstar on his team besides the combo of money, shots and playing time were too much to pass up.

I think he showed his true colors last year complaining about not getting enough shots. He brought in to Washington to be a Scottie Pippen type and learn from M.J. for a year and then take over the team

Everyone around the league knew he wasn't happy sharing the ball and not being the fan favorite his last year in Detroit (Ben is the fan favorite) in Detroit and that's why we traded him for Rip.

If he could have kept his mouth shut he'd still be in Philly. Could imagine A.I. and Stack on the same squad. They could have been the highest scoring tandem in the NBA by now.
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Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 27, 2003 4:50 pm

If he could have kept his mouth shut he'd still be in Philly. Could imagine A.I. and Stack on the same squad. They could have been the highest scoring tandem in the NBA by now.


The Sixers also had the second overall pick in 1997. Perhaps if taking promising high schoolers had been as popular back then as it is now (KG at 5 was a rarity in 1995 and Kobe still went at 13 in 1996), the Sixers might have takenb T-Mac. That wouldn't be a bad Big Three lineup - potentially one of the highest scoring trios if they could all get enough shots.

On the subject at hand, I expected Stack to leave, but I guess he wants to prove that the Wizards will do better without MJ. A bold endeavour, but I still think the Wiz are in for a shock.
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Postby paul_pierce_the_truth on Fri Jun 27, 2003 5:30 pm

Washington drafted Jarvis Hayes to play point guard, they must have said that 500 times during the draft.
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Postby paul_pierce_the_truth on Fri Jun 27, 2003 5:36 pm

Andrew,

Michael Jordan destroyed team moral in Washington, he loves himself so much that he didn't even try to be patient.

No team would ever hire Michael Jordan to be a head coach because he has no patience or ability to guide others.

The wizards were of course a better team with Jordan on the court. But they were a worse team for having him bitching and critizing eveyone all the time.

Michael Jordan who is the greatest player ever, will not be missed in Washington's locker room, in the cash register yes, on the floor for sure.

Jerry Stackhouse had no place else to go, or he would have.

I can't believe people talk about this team could have drafted Tracy McGrady or Kevin Garnett. Yeah Portland could have drafted Michael Jordan, they didn't and that's that. Let it go, move on.
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Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 27, 2003 5:41 pm

I agree, it is pretty pointless to talk about who a team could have drafted, since what's done is done. But sometimes it's interesting to look at what teams might have done. :)
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Postby Swoosh on Fri Jun 27, 2003 8:17 pm

[quote="madhooper"]Everyone around the league knew he wasn't happy sharing the ball and not being the fan favorite his last year in Detroit (Ben is the fan favorite) in Detroit and that's why we traded him for Rip.


Dont agree, it were the wiz who wanted the trade cuz RIP stood up against-as much as i'd hate to say this- jordan's ego and playing time so they decided to get rid of him, and stackhouse was the man in detroit, he led them all the way, dont think that big ben was that popular in his last year with detroit, the year he left he really became the popular one(i could be wrong :) , its just my opinion),and wallace aint the mvp that makes big shots to win the playoffs, stack can, thats the difference but hell, im no fan of stack or something, more of RIP :D
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Postby Full Surface on Fri Jun 27, 2003 11:09 pm

Michael was actually the one who came up with the Rip-Stack trade. Horrible move by MJ in my opinion.

Like someone said, I don't think Michael has the ability to become a good coach in the NBA. He just has no patience around younger players who are trying to develop.

He may be the "greatest player of all time" but a lot of people see him as a horrible mentor. He screams and yells at players with one small mistake they do. Kwame Brown and Brendan Haywood for example. Not to mention MJ had NUMEROUS opportunities to win games with last second shots but failed, and then he blames his failures on others. I'm glad he finally left Washington.
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Postby benji on Sat Jun 28, 2003 2:03 am

paul_pierce_the_truth wrote:Washington drafted Jarvis Hayes to play point guard, they must have said that 500 times during the draft.

Are you sure? I think you might be confused with Miami and Wade...plus I never saw anyone from Washington on during the draft saying anything...

I don't think Jarvis Hayes will play the point. Then again, they did start Larry Hughes there :roll:

let's see...we have Stack, Hughes, Russel and Simmons...and no front court...so...let's draft another SF/SG...then a PG who won't be the starter we need...
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Postby GloveGuy on Sat Jun 28, 2003 2:21 am

MJ might've been a bit too impatient, but that's because he knew that the Wizards should've been doing better. They had the talent to be one of the best teams in the East. He never screwed up any team moral, when there wasn't any moral in the first place. They should've been in the playoffs. But during the end of the season, no one but MJ and Tyronne Lue and Charles Oakley, actually showed heart. No one seemed to care. In his last game at MSG, he had to take over, a 40 year old man had to take over a game, and he tried and tried but they still lost. He had a right to be mad. Some players on that team would probably go cry about his post-game comments(Kwame), while others would use it as motivation. Think of what it must've been like for MJ, after winning 6 championships with the Bulls, then busting his 40 year old ass every game, and being one of the only few who actually seem to care and seemed to realize what this team could do if everyone played like him.
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Postby Swoosh on Sat Jun 28, 2003 3:08 am

damn right, he might be old but i think he still deserves respect for what he did at his age last season, but gotta agree that i dont really think he is that great of a coach or gm or whatever
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Postby Full Surface on Sat Jun 28, 2003 3:18 am

Bryon Russell isn't returning to Washington next season.
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Postby GloveGuy on Sat Jun 28, 2003 3:39 am

Russell didn't do well with the Wizards. I always thought he was a really good shooter with the Jazz but in Washington he couldn't make a shot.
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Postby Steve04 on Sat Jun 28, 2003 9:10 am

Russell= Jerry Sloan Theory...

Players in Utah who are mediocre elsewhere(see Calbert Chaney) goto Utah and overachieve and when they go other places they are not as good. please name one player who has played better AFTER he left Utah...
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Postby paul_pierce_the_truth on Sat Jun 28, 2003 3:12 pm

Andy Katz and Jay Bilas said it, not Eddie Jordan, so it could be wrong.
But according to the draft coverage, they said it.
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Postby Andrew on Sat Jun 28, 2003 5:17 pm

No matter which guard position Hayes plays, Stack will probably play at small forward anyway, unless either Hayes or Hughes will be coming off the bench. Then again, Hayes could play at SF, allowing Stack to drop back to SG.

That of course is assuming Hayes will indeed start - after all, it's no longer a given that a lottery pick will start or get a lot of minutes.
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Postby LeBron James on Sat Jun 28, 2003 8:22 pm

stack is good player in wizards but jerry was better in detroit.in season 00-01 he avaraged 29,8 points per game :shock: .but in wizards only 21.5 points per contest.now jordan has left,maybe stack is stepping up in upcoming season :wink:
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Postby airtsinelas on Sat Jun 28, 2003 10:29 pm

At that time Stack was the only one who is scoring for the Pistons and they lost about 50 games and they realized that they needed someone to help take more load off of him.
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Postby benji on Sun Jun 29, 2003 2:04 am

In '01-'02 Stack only got 21 a game too...
Players in Utah who are mediocre elsewhere(see Calbert Chaney) goto Utah and overachieve and when they go other places they are not as good. please name one player who has played better AFTER he left Utah...

Bernard King...

Calbert Cheaney didn't overachieve in Utah...he played far far far better when he was in Washington...

I don't see why Russell stinking it up was such a surprise...he already had passed his prime and had stunk it up in Utah the last year, shooting poorly, turning it over like mad, not creating his own shots or beating anyone down the floor...Jordan remembered how good of defender he was in the late-90s when Jordan shoved him away so he could shoot and made yet another horrific front office move in signing him...

I should specificy that was Michael Jordan...Eddie Jordan appears to be somewhat smert...killing the Kwame trade...but then again the drafting of Jarvis Hayes is icky...

Stackhouse resigned because he knew he'd wouldn't get anything better on the open market and Washington is desperate to have some kind of "name" player and a potential All-Star...Washington needs to gut this Franchise and get rid of all the Jordan blunders...the only way is probably contract buyouts...nobody wants to spend $5-6 million a year on Christian Laettner or Jahidi White...

If I was the Washington GM the only players I'd keep from the Dark Days Of The Jordan Regime would be Kwame Brown (because of that damned upside and his contract will run out soon anyway), Larry Hughes (because he would suffice at SG and would build his trade value through a 20 point season), Etan Thomas (because I like him...he should be a beast in this league), Jared Jeffries (upside! upside!) and Bobby Simmons (a gang$ta) everyone else should be jettsoned...I would keep Hayes and Blake because they're new, and plus Blake needs to play point...I might keep Dixon to please Blake, but I wouldn't tell Eddie Jordan to play him...

I'd be very depressed too...considering I could start the season with Tim Duncan/Jermaine O'Neal, Elton Brand, Jason Kidd, Kobe Bryant and/or Gilbert Arenas, Brad Miller or Corey Maggette instead of the Finals-bound Haywood, Brown, Hayes, Stackhouse and Hughes crew that Jordan assembled :roll:
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