Question for unoquepasa or Dirtdog

by **antwainbarbour** on Mon May 19, 2003 4:37 am

Hey,

You guys are probably the best at creating cyberfaces out there. Do you have any tips/suggestions? Like, for instance, in Paintshop Pro, which adjustments (saturation/hue/balance) do you make to your faces? I''m just a beginner and I'm not very good at it. I need some guidance. Where do you guys get your .jpg photos?

by **unoquepasa** on Mon May 19, 2003 7:38 am

Well, Antwain. I've not any tips, i just spend my time working on the picture (a lot of patience :roll:

and experience). Copy and paste command, mirror and rotate options, eraser (i use different opacity and size levels) and resample functions.. I adjust very well the eyes and mouth positions... Sometimes i use ALT+Imp to capture JEPG files...
I work with pictures from NBA.Com, Google, CNN, CBS, ESPN, ACB.COM (spaniard players) or pictures by scanner (very difficult because in Spain we have not enough magazines about american basket -in my country we have a lot of soccer/football, do you know? :roll:

- )

by **antwainbarbour** on Tue May 20, 2003 2:12 pm

Good tips. Where is the resample tool located? And tell me exactly how you get the eyes and mouth properly centered---I usually use the "copy" and "paste into selection" method, but this hasn't been working out so far.

by **Dirtdog1- David** on Tue May 20, 2003 2:59 pm

What I do to get the eyes and nose to match, is color the background eyes, nose and mouth a fluorescent green, and then copy and paste on top. Then lower the opacity to a level where you can see through the layer; and then position them up that way. Don't forget to raise the opacity back to 100%

David

by **antwainbarbour** on Wed May 21, 2003 7:18 am

This is really getting frusturating. Thanks to all--your tips have helped, but I have one major problem--I can't get the colors on my faces to match the ones I'm trying to patch. As a result, my cyberfaces always look like they are wearing masks. I have tried everything. What do you guys do to the colors to match up (I only use brightness/lightness, cotrast tool)? How do you use the airbrush? Do you use the scatch remover?

by **unoquepasa** on Wed May 21, 2003 7:38 am

Antwain, c'mon, we need people patching this game!
Respect the eraser command you must work slowly, step by step. First, around the picture, working with high opacity levels. After, you must work with low opacity levels within the picture getting the most accurated mixture.
Use too "Red /Green/Blue" colour option. Sometimes i use the gamma correction for the final result but , usually, is not necessary.
Nobody gets good cyberfaces at first attempts. Nobody :cry:

. Next days i'll send to you by e-mail four or five captures from my work on any player :wink:

.
See you and let's go!

by **Steve04** on Wed May 21, 2003 8:20 am

Well for my cyberfaces I use a combo of Photoshop 5, Picture Publisher 8, and Paint Shop Pro 8, and I use the Color tool,Smear and Smudge tool, and also the air brush tool to get it looking just right.

But you cannot rush or else you might end up messing up something, like UP said use airbrush at low opacity levels and then use colorize(if you have that) to change the color of the face to the color of the rest of the head.

by **antwainbarbour** on Wed May 21, 2003 11:19 am

Thanks to all for helping me out!

One more problem, though: when I make a cyberface and look at in the actual game, the player's ears are off-centered from their natural positions....the entire face seems like it slides over to the right. Anybody else have this problem? How do you get the cyberface to appear in three windows (left side, front, and right side?)

by **antwainbarbour** on Wed May 21, 2003 12:53 pm

Hey guys,

How do you colorize? I'm having a hard time getting the colors to match properly. At the top, I noticed there was something called "preset." Do you guys use this?

by **antwainbarbour** on Wed May 21, 2003 1:27 pm

Okay,

I have fixed the colorization problem. Once I got the hang of it, it was easy.

But I am still having problems getting the face to fit in the desired location. I line up the eyes, nose, and mouth perfectly, but when I install the cyberface, everything is off-centered to the right. I think this may because of the way I am saving the cyberface. Some message comes up saying "You are saving (or not saving, I can't remember which one) a merged document, blah,blah,blah.....what does this mean? I'm pretty sure this is the problem. How do I fix it? Whoever can answer this wins themself a bunch of rookie cyberfaces made by yours truly.

by **alexboom** on Wed May 21, 2003 5:41 pm

with which software do you work with ?
in which format do you save your cyberface ? (before importing it in the .fsh file)

by **unoquepasa** on Thu May 22, 2003 3:15 am

Antwain, check your e-mail, please! :cool:

by **antwainbarbour** on Thu May 22, 2003 4:50 am

I've saved it two ways in Paint Shop Pro 8:

1. I save it as a bmp.--this gives me the "off centered result". But everytime I save it this way in Paintshop, it says it "will save it as a merged document only."

2. Save it as a Paint Shop Pro imabge. But when I do this, the player whose headshape I was working with gets his cyberface assigned to my rookie--for example, I was attempting to make a Chris Thomas (Notre Dame) cyberface by using Jason Kidd's headshape, but when I installed it using this method, Chris Thomas had Kidd's face.

by **antwainbarbour** on Thu May 22, 2003 6:05 am

Hey UP, check your e-mail.

Another question too, UP: What version of Paint Shop Pro do you use, and what player's headshape did you use to create Dajuan Wagner?

by **alexboom** on Thu May 22, 2003 6:35 am

antwainbarbour wrote:But everytime I save it this way in Paintshop, it says it "will save it as a merged document only."

no problem man :cool:

photoshop uses layers when you manipulate your image, but when you export in bmp or jpg, the layers are all merged in one image but don't worry the bmp to use is ok for importing in fsh :cool:

by **unoquepasa** on Thu May 22, 2003 7:54 am

Antwain, send me again your e-mail, please. Probably i've deleted (i'm so stupid) your questions :oops:

.
I use PSP 4 :shock:

(I'm fall in love with him).
I don't remember which headshape i used (the version captured is not definitive) to make the beta version.

by **antwainbarbour** on Thu May 22, 2003 1:43 pm

Hey UP: it's lewisdm1@wku.edu

by **antwainbarbour** on Thu May 22, 2003 1:44 pm

Hey Alex,

When I save in bmp., this is where the problem occurs--everything is off-centered. Do I need to "merge" everything before I save?

by **alexboom** on Thu May 22, 2003 4:54 pm

i don't understand when you mean "off centered", actually, this has nothing to see with the layers... but you can try to go to layers=>merge down before saving in bmp...

do you have the last version of eagraph ? i remember that some older had bug in exporting in bmp maybe they also have problem in importing...

try to save in tif or in png, those formats are accepted by eagraph and doesn't lose in quality (like jpeg or gif could do)

by **antwainbarbour** on Fri May 23, 2003 11:48 am

Alex,

I don't know what version of EA Graph I have--I downloaded from NLSC....by off-centered, I mean the cyberface has slid over to the right--the eyes, mouth, and nose...the ears aren't where they're supposed to be either. My cyberfaces have resulted in players with 2 eyes, 2 noses, 2 mouths, and 4 ears. ...I am going to download Paint Shop Pro 4 and see if I have any luck with it--it might me that Paint Shop Pro 8 is too advanced for the game.

by **Dirtdog1- David** on Fri May 23, 2003 11:57 am

I think you are using the EA graph for Live 2003. Try downloading the last Live 2000 version..................... myself i use 0.95

I use PSP 7, and have no problem.

David

by **antwainbarbour** on Sun May 25, 2003 9:53 am

Where can i download the Graphics Editor for 2000? Could anybody send me a copy at lewisdm1@wku.edu?

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