NBA 2K15 Wtf moment

[XxStunner]

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Playing on the Pro and the CPU does this , come on 2k stop cheesing.

And yea its on the minimum and its 30 fps , i had a bad pc but i could run 2k14 maxed out on solid 60 frames but in this game i can't even hit 40 fps on the minimum.

[burnshroom]

CONTEXT!!!

This is a replay but doesn't provide much context as to the situation that prompted this shot.

I would assume it's either a late game situation or end of quarter type situation, but the replay doesn't provide.... actually it does. It's an end of quarter or game situation so it seems logical to throw up a shot...

Nothing wrong here.



Look at the clock!!!!

[XxStunner]

yea shot clock cheese on the 4 quarter, that was the last shot of the game hopefully i did win cause we was up by 8, its logical to throw up a shot but he is 25 standing shooting three and 25 moving shoot three he should missed that, but 9 of 10 shots for the CPU goes in on the 4 quarter and if not the CPU gets the offensive board.

[bigh0rt]

but 9 of 10 shots for the CPU goes in on the 4 quarter and if not the CPU gets the offensive board.

If this is the case for you, it speaks more to your ability within the game than the game itself, since it is not being widely reported.

As for the guy draining a 3 at the buzzer... it happens. It doesn't happen often, but it happens. Even big men who don't shoot 3s.

People are truly grasping at straws. There's plenty of things that could be improved in the game, but all I see is a combination of people not being able to play defense cause they aren't any good, and complaining when the CPU hits literally any shot when guarded.

Sheesh.

[XxStunner]

but 9 of 10 shots for the CPU goes in on the 4 quarter and if not the CPU gets the offensive board.

If this is the case for you, it speaks more to your ability within the game than the game itself, since it is not being widely reported.

As for the guy draining a 3 at the buzzer... it happens. It doesn't happen often, but it happens. Even big men who don't shoot 3s.

People are truly grasping at straws. There's plenty of things that could be improved in the game, but all I see is a combination of people not being able to play defense cause they aren't any good, and complaining when the CPU hits literally any shot when guarded.

Sheesh.

Defense is hard this year andi know dat, i did improve my defense rating and i keep improing myself to play d but offensive rebounds is a problem u can't deny this, don't matter if i get some stops cpu always get the board and is not just me, you can see on EVERY youtube video from smoove, ipodkingcarter, qbj,etc.

[bigh0rt]

but 9 of 10 shots for the CPU goes in on the 4 quarter and if not the CPU gets the offensive board.

If this is the case for you, it speaks more to your ability within the game than the game itself, since it is not being widely reported.

As for the guy draining a 3 at the buzzer... it happens. It doesn't happen often, but it happens. Even big men who don't shoot 3s.

People are truly grasping at straws. There's plenty of things that could be improved in the game, but all I see is a combination of people not being able to play defense cause they aren't any good, and complaining when the CPU hits literally any shot when guarded.

Sheesh.

Defense is hard this year andi know dat, i did improve my defense rating and i keep improing myself to play d but offensive rebounds is a problem u can't deny this, don't matter if i get some stops cpu always get the board and is not just me, you can see on EVERY youtube video from smoove, ipodkingcarter, qbj,etc.

I literally don't have a problem with Offensive Rebounds. They fall between 8 - 14 per game for me, when I play full games, which is reasonable. I've mentioned several times in several different threads, that when you go for blocks that you don't really have a shot at, or just to get a hand in a face, a lot of times you leave the basket unprotected, and the other team gets an open O-Reb... but they should. You've abandoned that spot and chosen not to box out. You can't go for blocks all the time like you could in previous versions of the game. You've got to stay home and box out, or else you're going to give up tons of Offensive Rebounds, as you should. It's not a problem with the game, but a problem with how people choose to play it. It is a very, very rate instance, where I feel the CPU gets an Offensive Rebound that I 'deserved' to get. The problem is people wanting simulation numbers when they don't play a simulation style of basketball.

[XxStunner]

but 9 of 10 shots for the CPU goes in on the 4 quarter and if not the CPU gets the offensive board.

If this is the case for you, it speaks more to your ability within the game than the game itself, since it is not being widely reported.

As for the guy draining a 3 at the buzzer... it happens. It doesn't happen often, but it happens. Even big men who don't shoot 3s.

People are truly grasping at straws. There's plenty of things that could be improved in the game, but all I see is a combination of people not being able to play defense cause they aren't any good, and complaining when the CPU hits literally any shot when guarded.

Sheesh.

Defense is hard this year andi know dat, i did improve my defense rating and i keep improing myself to play d but offensive rebounds is a problem u can't deny this, don't matter if i get some stops cpu always get the board and is not just me, you can see on EVERY youtube video from smoove, ipodkingcarter, qbj,etc.

I literally don't have a problem with Offensive Rebounds. They fall between 8 - 14 per game for me, when I play full games, which is reasonable. I've mentioned several times in several different threads, that when you go for blocks that you don't really have a shot at, or just to get a hand in a face, a lot of times you leave the basket unprotected, and the other team gets an open O-Reb... but they should. You've abandoned that spot and chosen not to box out. You can't go for blocks all the time like you could in previous versions of the game. You've got to stay home and box out, or else you're going to give up tons of Offensive Rebounds, as you should. It's not a problem with the game, but a problem with how people choose to play it. It is a very, very rate instance, where I feel the CPU gets an Offensive Rebound that I 'deserved' to get. The problem is people wanting simulation numbers when they don't play a simulation style of basketball.

So you sayn when i'm playing My Career and Cousins give up 3 offensive board in a row for a SF is my fault and not the game ? since im a PG i have to defend the perimeter and at same time pick 6,7 , 8 boards per game just to win ?

[bigh0rt]

but 9 of 10 shots for the CPU goes in on the 4 quarter and if not the CPU gets the offensive board.

If this is the case for you, it speaks more to your ability within the game than the game itself, since it is not being widely reported.

As for the guy draining a 3 at the buzzer... it happens. It doesn't happen often, but it happens. Even big men who don't shoot 3s.

People are truly grasping at straws. There's plenty of things that could be improved in the game, but all I see is a combination of people not being able to play defense cause they aren't any good, and complaining when the CPU hits literally any shot when guarded.

Sheesh.

Defense is hard this year andi know dat, i did improve my defense rating and i keep improing myself to play d but offensive rebounds is a problem u can't deny this, don't matter if i get some stops cpu always get the board and is not just me, you can see on EVERY youtube video from smoove, ipodkingcarter, qbj,etc.

I literally don't have a problem with Offensive Rebounds. They fall between 8 - 14 per game for me, when I play full games, which is reasonable. I've mentioned several times in several different threads, that when you go for blocks that you don't really have a shot at, or just to get a hand in a face, a lot of times you leave the basket unprotected, and the other team gets an open O-Reb... but they should. You've abandoned that spot and chosen not to box out. You can't go for blocks all the time like you could in previous versions of the game. You've got to stay home and box out, or else you're going to give up tons of Offensive Rebounds, as you should. It's not a problem with the game, but a problem with how people choose to play it. It is a very, very rate instance, where I feel the CPU gets an Offensive Rebound that I 'deserved' to get. The problem is people wanting simulation numbers when they don't play a simulation style of basketball.

So you sayn when i'm playing My Career and Cousins give up 3 offensive board in a row for a SF is my fault and not the game ? since im a PG i have to defend the perimeter and at same time pick 6,7 , 8 boards per game just to win ?

I cannot speak to My Career. Anything that contains Player Lock, I'm not a fan of. I'm speaking on any other mode where you can choose the player you control. If you're having CPU vs CPU issues, which is essentially what it sounds like, then try tweaking the sliders to see if it helps at all. How many O-Reb is the CPU getting in a full, 12-minute Quarter game? NBA teams routinely grab 8 - 12, or even more of them per game, on average.

[XxStunner]

but 9 of 10 shots for the CPU goes in on the 4 quarter and if not the CPU gets the offensive board.

If this is the case for you, it speaks more to your ability within the game than the game itself, since it is not being widely reported.

As for the guy draining a 3 at the buzzer... it happens. It doesn't happen often, but it happens. Even big men who don't shoot 3s.

People are truly grasping at straws. There's plenty of things that could be improved in the game, but all I see is a combination of people not being able to play defense cause they aren't any good, and complaining when the CPU hits literally any shot when guarded.

Sheesh.

Defense is hard this year andi know dat, i did improve my defense rating and i keep improing myself to play d but offensive rebounds is a problem u can't deny this, don't matter if i get some stops cpu always get the board and is not just me, you can see on EVERY youtube video from smoove, ipodkingcarter, qbj,etc.

I literally don't have a problem with Offensive Rebounds. They fall between 8 - 14 per game for me, when I play full games, which is reasonable. I've mentioned several times in several different threads, that when you go for blocks that you don't really have a shot at, or just to get a hand in a face, a lot of times you leave the basket unprotected, and the other team gets an open O-Reb... but they should. You've abandoned that spot and chosen not to box out. You can't go for blocks all the time like you could in previous versions of the game. You've got to stay home and box out, or else you're going to give up tons of Offensive Rebounds, as you should. It's not a problem with the game, but a problem with how people choose to play it. It is a very, very rate instance, where I feel the CPU gets an Offensive Rebound that I 'deserved' to get. The problem is people wanting simulation numbers when they don't play a simulation style of basketball.

So you sayn when i'm playing My Career and Cousins give up 3 offensive board in a row for a SF is my fault and not the game ? since im a PG i have to defend the perimeter and at same time pick 6,7 , 8 boards per game just to win ?

I cannot speak to My Career. Anything that contains Player Lock, I'm not a fan of. I'm speaking on any other mode where you can choose the player you control. If you're having CPU vs CPU issues, which is essentially what it sounds like, then try tweaking the sliders to see if it helps at all. How many O-Reb is the CPU getting in a full, 12-minute Quarter game? NBA teams routinely grab 8 - 12, or even more of them per game, on average.

Sliders don't work on MyCarrer... also they usually grab 8 - 12 but for a example, i was playing against golden stade, they picked 7 offensive boards on the 1 quarter and then coach send me to the bench, when i did came back still 7 offensive boerds and at the end the game they picked 15 all those 15 while im playing, the game does this to the numbers keep close to the real NBA, but my team only picked 3 offensive boards , any team win against us on the offensive boards, even the worst ones.
You just don't believe that CPU got advantage cause u dont play MyCareer, try play 10 games on this mode and then u will hate this too.

[Uncle Drew]

but 9 of 10 shots for the CPU goes in on the 4 quarter and if not the CPU gets the offensive board.

If this is the case for you, it speaks more to your ability within the game than the game itself, since it is not being widely reported.

As for the guy draining a 3 at the buzzer... it happens. It doesn't happen often, but it happens. Even big men who don't shoot 3s.

People are truly grasping at straws. There's plenty of things that could be improved in the game, but all I see is a combination of people not being able to play defense cause they aren't any good, and complaining when the CPU hits literally any shot when guarded.

Sheesh.

Defense is hard this year andi know dat, i did improve my defense rating and i keep improing myself to play d but offensive rebounds is a problem u can't deny this, don't matter if i get some stops cpu always get the board and is not just me, you can see on EVERY youtube video from smoove, ipodkingcarter, qbj,etc.

I literally don't have a problem with Offensive Rebounds. They fall between 8 - 14 per game for me, when I play full games, which is reasonable. I've mentioned several times in several different threads, that when you go for blocks that you don't really have a shot at, or just to get a hand in a face, a lot of times you leave the basket unprotected, and the other team gets an open O-Reb... but they should. You've abandoned that spot and chosen not to box out. You can't go for blocks all the time like you could in previous versions of the game. You've got to stay home and box out, or else you're going to give up tons of Offensive Rebounds, as you should. It's not a problem with the game, but a problem with how people choose to play it. It is a very, very rate instance, where I feel the CPU gets an Offensive Rebound that I 'deserved' to get. The problem is people wanting simulation numbers when they don't play a simulation style of basketball.

So you sayn when i'm playing My Career and Cousins give up 3 offensive board in a row for a SF is my fault and not the game ? since im a PG i have to defend the perimeter and at same time pick 6,7 , 8 boards per game just to win ?

I cannot speak to My Career. Anything that contains Player Lock, I'm not a fan of. I'm speaking on any other mode where you can choose the player you control. If you're having CPU vs CPU issues, which is essentially what it sounds like, then try tweaking the sliders to see if it helps at all. How many O-Reb is the CPU getting in a full, 12-minute Quarter game? NBA teams routinely grab 8 - 12, or even more of them per game, on average.

I think 8-12 off boards is on the high side. Now 3-5 per game is reasonable, unless the rebounder is Faried or Drummond who are 2 of the best in the league at off rebounds. Just my take. And what slider adjustments do you recommend?

[ColumbusBobby23]

@Uncle Drew
You might have to put Tristan Thompson on that list too. 12 offensive rebounds against the bulls last week was insane!!

[ThePointForward]

Then again, crazier things happened.

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[bigh0rt]

but 9 of 10 shots for the CPU goes in on the 4 quarter and if not the CPU gets the offensive board.

If this is the case for you, it speaks more to your ability within the game than the game itself, since it is not being widely reported.

As for the guy draining a 3 at the buzzer... it happens. It doesn't happen often, but it happens. Even big men who don't shoot 3s.

People are truly grasping at straws. There's plenty of things that could be improved in the game, but all I see is a combination of people not being able to play defense cause they aren't any good, and complaining when the CPU hits literally any shot when guarded.

Sheesh.

Defense is hard this year andi know dat, i did improve my defense rating and i keep improing myself to play d but offensive rebounds is a problem u can't deny this, don't matter if i get some stops cpu always get the board and is not just me, you can see on EVERY youtube video from smoove, ipodkingcarter, qbj,etc.

I literally don't have a problem with Offensive Rebounds. They fall between 8 - 14 per game for me, when I play full games, which is reasonable. I've mentioned several times in several different threads, that when you go for blocks that you don't really have a shot at, or just to get a hand in a face, a lot of times you leave the basket unprotected, and the other team gets an open O-Reb... but they should. You've abandoned that spot and chosen not to box out. You can't go for blocks all the time like you could in previous versions of the game. You've got to stay home and box out, or else you're going to give up tons of Offensive Rebounds, as you should. It's not a problem with the game, but a problem with how people choose to play it. It is a very, very rate instance, where I feel the CPU gets an Offensive Rebound that I 'deserved' to get. The problem is people wanting simulation numbers when they don't play a simulation style of basketball.

So you sayn when i'm playing My Career and Cousins give up 3 offensive board in a row for a SF is my fault and not the game ? since im a PG i have to defend the perimeter and at same time pick 6,7 , 8 boards per game just to win ?

I cannot speak to My Career. Anything that contains Player Lock, I'm not a fan of. I'm speaking on any other mode where you can choose the player you control. If you're having CPU vs CPU issues, which is essentially what it sounds like, then try tweaking the sliders to see if it helps at all. How many O-Reb is the CPU getting in a full, 12-minute Quarter game? NBA teams routinely grab 8 - 12, or even more of them per game, on average.

I think 8-12 off boards is on the high side. Now 3-5 per game is reasonable, unless the rebounder is Faried or Drummond who are 2 of the best in the league at off rebounds. Just my take. And what slider adjustments do you recommend?

See, this is the problem. People think that 3 - 5 Off. Reb per game is the norm, when it's far from it. So far in this early season, the worst Off. Reb. team in the league, Golden State, is averaging 8.0 O-Reb per game, while the best, New Orleans, is avgeraging 14.2 O-Reb per game. Meanwhile, if a 2K15 user saw those numbers, we'd start hearing about how the game is scripted, whatever the hell that means anymore, since people seem to just like to use it wherever something they feel is unjust happens. In 2013-2014, the Miami Heat avg. 7.6 O-Reb per game, and were the worst in the league at that mark, while Detroit averaged 14.6 O-Reb per game. So when your expectation is 3 - 5 O-Reb per game, then yeah, you'll certainly think that 12 is unrealistic, despite it being completely within the reasonable expectations of reality.

[bigh0rt]

Then again, crazier things happened.

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Looks scripted.

[XxStunner]

Then again, crazier things happened.

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Looks scripted.

Okay thats happens on every game right ? cause i played 48 games on the season and on 45 games CPU does something like this video, on the Zeller 3 point you act like it was kobe doing a 3 point , dude im sure u don't play the game, not just because something happens ONE time on the NBA means that is supposed to happens every time on the game.

Momentum is broke too, is a BIG part of the NBA but it happens on EVERY FUCKIN GAME, it needs to be fixed, to happens only on 6 or 7 games per 10 , not 10 of 10, every game CPU does a fuckin comeback even on 40 point lead.
I mean the game is GREAT , the best sports game ever BUT the IA is a problem, don't act like it ain't.

And my video and this real NBA video is a WTF moment

[ThePointForward]

Then again, crazier things happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zuywGcPun4

Looks scripted.

Okay thats happens on every game right ? cause i played 48 games on the season and on 45 games CPU does something like this video, on the Zeller 3 point you act like it was kobe doing a 3 point , dude im sure u don't play the game, not just because something happens ONE time on the NBA means that is supposed to happens every time on the game.

Momentum is broke too, is a BIG part of the NBA but it happens on EVERY FUCKIN GAME, it needs to be fixed, to happens only on 6 or 7 games per 10 , not 10 of 10, every game CPU does a fuckin comeback even on 40 point lead.
I mean the game is GREAT , the best sports game ever BUT the IA is a problem, don't act like it ain't.

And my video and this real NBA video is a WTF moment

C'mon, it was just a joke, all that offensive rebound talking reminded me of that

On a more serious note, check this out: http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/ ... vgRebounds
I don't think I see more than 10 offensive rebounds per game.

And I don't see those so many of those comebacks.
Few days ago, when I last played the game, I played several matches, was leading by 6 to 10 points and those comebacks never happened. Sure, CPU scored some, but I usually got those points back, milking the clock along the way. I still think this is mostly the way you play - maybe you allow CPU to score some, the team builds up confidence and starts hitting more shots. Your team on the other hand starts getting nervous and disrupted. Have you tried calling a timeout when CPU is on such run? To stop them, let them cool down and get yourself an easy basket?

PS I have no idea what you were trying to tell with that Zeller comment...

[Apollo 13]

what's the point of defending how broken the offensive rebounding is when the Devs themselves know it's broke and plan to fix it in next patch? Offensive rebounding by the CPU and that's a fact.

[XxStunner]

Then again, crazier things happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zuywGcPun4

Looks scripted.

Okay thats happens on every game right ? cause i played 48 games on the season and on 45 games CPU does something like this video, on the Zeller 3 point you act like it was kobe doing a 3 point , dude im sure u don't play the game, not just because something happens ONE time on the NBA means that is supposed to happens every time on the game.

Momentum is broke too, is a BIG part of the NBA but it happens on EVERY FUCKIN GAME, it needs to be fixed, to happens only on 6 or 7 games per 10 , not 10 of 10, every game CPU does a fuckin comeback even on 40 point lead.
I mean the game is GREAT , the best sports game ever BUT the IA is a problem, don't act like it ain't.

And my video and this real NBA video is a WTF moment

C'mon, it was just a joke, all that offensive rebound talking reminded me of that

On a more serious note, check this out: http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/ ... vgRebounds
I don't think I see more than 10 offensive rebounds per game.

And I don't see those so many of those comebacks.
Few days ago, when I last played the game, I played several matches, was leading by 6 to 10 points and those comebacks never happened. Sure, CPU scored some, but I usually got those points back, milking the clock along the way. I still think this is mostly the way you play - maybe you allow CPU to score some, the team builds up confidence and starts hitting more shots. Your team on the other hand starts getting nervous and disrupted. Have you tried calling a timeout when CPU is on such run? To stop them, let them cool down and get yourself an easy basket?

PS I have no idea what you were trying to tell with that Zeller comment...

It was Zeller that made that lest second shot 3 pointer on my video.
And its all good coz.

[JWL3]

Looks scripted.

Okay thats happens on every game right ? cause i played 48 games on the season and on 45 games CPU does something like this video, on the Zeller 3 point you act like it was kobe doing a 3 point , dude im sure u don't play the game, not just because something happens ONE time on the NBA means that is supposed to happens every time on the game.

Momentum is broke too, is a BIG part of the NBA but it happens on EVERY FUCKIN GAME, it needs to be fixed, to happens only on 6 or 7 games per 10 , not 10 of 10, every game CPU does a fuckin comeback even on 40 point lead.
I mean the game is GREAT , the best sports game ever BUT the IA is a problem, don't act like it ain't.

And my video and this real NBA video is a WTF moment

Forget it. You can't convince these guys that momentum exists and that there's scripting. I've had these sequences too where the opposing big rips 5 offensive rebounds in a row from Tyson Chandler.

How about a test? Go down 25 points, I guarantee you, you'll shoot 80% in the fourth quarter as the cpu tries to help you mount a comeback. I reeled off 15 straight last week to start the 4th when I got down 23. Got the game down to within 2 before the cpu finally turned off cpu assist and I lost.

And by scripted, I mean that cpu assist and momentum are ON. And it gets overpowering when the point difference is big between the teams.

[JWL3]

Here are two other WTF moments:

1) when you're up 10 and that pos coach Rivers pulls every single starter except you, leaving you to pass to 4 guys who couldn't play at the YMCA. That 10 pt lead disappears into a 6 pt hole and Rivers still doesn't sub anyone out, despite you calling multiple time outs.

2) at the slightest whiff of a double team, your player throws passes 50 feet above the receiver, resulting in 8 turnovers a game. If the computer were smart, why not double on every single play then?

[XxStunner]

Here are two other WTF moments:

1) when you're up 10 and that pos coach Rivers pulls every single starter except you, leaving you to pass to 4 guys who couldn't play at the YMCA. That 10 pt lead disappears into a 6 pt hole and Rivers still doesn't sub anyone out, despite you calling multiple time outs.

2) at the slightest whiff of a double team, your player throws passes 50 feet above the receiver, resulting in 8 turnovers a game. If the computer were smart, why not double on every single play then?

passing is broke too, sometimes your player trow a pass on others players body then where we go again . another turnover.

[JWL3]

How do you upload a replay or screenshot from FRAPS, by the way? The files are ridiculously huge (600 megs for an 8 second clip, 6 megs for a screenshot) and also this forum doesn't allow avi and bmp formats. Do I have to get the on shareware version?

[TBM]

You have to re-encode the file in a program like Sony Vegas.

[XxStunner]

You have to re-encode the file in a program like Sony Vegas.

^

[Andrew]

also this forum doesn't allow avi and bmp formats.

Videos can be uploaded to YouTube and embedded here with the VIDEO tag. I can change it so that bitmaps can be updated, but you can always upload images to external hosts (such as imgur) and embed them with the IMG tag.