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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby Leftos on Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:55 am

Just wanted to bring up a couple of quotes that will clarify why 2K15 OVRs can be significantly different than in 2K14, and how shortcomings that Andrew brings up no longer apply for the most part.

Andrew wrote:A few things to keep in mind as we wrap up the ratings reveal:
http://www.nba-live.com/the-friday-five ... l-ratings/

Andrew wrote:When it comes down to it, overall ratings have not always been calculated particularly well in previous games. The formula doesn’t necessarily take into account whether or not a certain skill is vital given a player’s position, and athletic ratings in particular tend to be weighted too heavily. As such, even if a player’s individual ratings are fairly spot on, their overall might make them appear overrated or underrated. For what it’s worth, it should be noted that Fernando, who is working on the rosters for NBA Live 15, has indicated that they’ve made some changes to the way overall ratings are calculated this year.

If a player appears to be overrated, there’s a good chance it’s due to their athleticism. Traditionally speaking, jumping, speed, and dunking ratings have greatly boosted a player’s overall rating; Josh Smith tends to be my go-to example here. On the other hand, they can also drag a player’s overall rating down. Average athletes with superb talent and skill, such as Steve Nash, can often appear underrated as a result. Having said all that, a player’s other ratings usually balance things out for the most part, and their overall is at least in the ballpark of where it arguably should be.

Things get even more complicated when it comes to key role players who are specialists and thus very skilled in one or two aspects of the game, but not outstanding in others (Kyle Korver would be a good example here). These players are very valuable to their teams because of the specific skills they bring to the table, but their overall rating doesn’t always reflect their importance. However, it’s the individual ratings that matter the most, so it’s only at first glance that such players seem underrated and undervalued…not unlike their real life counterparts, I suppose.

Mike (bedwardsroy), regarding Overall Ratings in 2K15, wrote:As NBA 2K15 Overall ratings are released, I think it is important to point out that NBA 2K15 will feature a revamped formula to determine a player's overall rating. This year a player's overall rating will be determined by what "type" of player they are. By having more dynamic overall rating formulas it allows for players who are highly valued by teams to have a more representative "Overall" rating. Specialists such as great defenders, shooters, and rebounders will have an overall value that properly displays their worth to an NBA team.

The goal of the newly calculated Overall formulas is to as accurately as possible show a player's value in the NBA. The new formula will really highlight those players that play a very important role on their team, but may not be the prototypical player at their position. All players in the NBA provide some sort of value to their team, and the revamped Overall formulas should really illustrate that in NBA 2K15.

Leftos, regarding Overall Ratings in 2K15, wrote:Each Position has a set of Archetypes (or Player Types, if you will). All-Around, Athletic, Defensive, etc. A player has an overall per player type per position. So a player has (NumberOfPositions * NumberOfPlayerTypesPerPosition) overall ratings. Each Positional Player Type has its own overall formula (so PG All Around has a different formula than PF All Around has a different formula than C Defensive).

Whenever his overall rating gets updated, we calculate all the overall ratings for his position by player type. The player type that gives him his the highest overall is the one we determine "most compatible", so we assign it to him along with that Overall.

So yes, a player that might be C All-Around but as years go by sees his offensive attributes regress but you've made sure to keep him up to par defensively using (cheap plug but I'm a dev) our new in-season Training system, might see his player type change to C Defensive, and his value to the team will still be there.
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby Andrew on Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:10 pm

Awesome, that's great to know. (Y)
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby King Mellow on Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:33 pm

Finally, an increase in Big Al's rating. :bowdown2:
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby mantazzo on Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:47 pm

Updated with new rankings. Also, thanks for clarification Leftos. I guess you can't say whether the last 20 places will be revealed at once or by ten etc... :D
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby mantazzo on Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:26 am

Updated the rankings again with positions 11-20. Good thing I'm was not sleeping atm, but it's 0:30 am here, so I guess I'll go then.
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby TGsoGood on Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:21 am

My guess at the top 10

1. 97 Lebron James
2. 95 Kevin Durant
3. 93 Chris Paul
4. 92 Carmelo Anthony
5. 89 Paul George
6. 89 Steph Curry
7. 89 Blake Griffin
8. 88 Tim Duncan
9. 88 Kobe Bryant
10. 88 Kevin Love


My reasoning:
There is no way I can justify in my mind putting Kevin Love over the other 9.
Kobe and Tim Duncan could swap easily.
I took Lebron down a peg, that's just my guess.
I feel Curry is more valuable as a PG then Griffin at PF but Griffin might have another gear in him.
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby TBM on Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:26 am

Love is better than Griffin.
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby TGsoGood on Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:46 am

TBM wrote:Love is better than Griffin.


I put love 1 rating point lower than Griffin because during the stretch when CP3 went down, Griffin proved he could do more than he has been given credit for in the past. He showed other facets of his game and made some pretty good distribution decisions. Not to mention keeping his team in the playoff picture in the competitive Western Conference.
Also I took into consideration that each position has a different rating formula for each playstyle.
Lastly I give Griffin the leg up with post season experience edge.
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby ThePointForward on Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:01 am

I though LeBron is 98 and Timmy 90?
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby TGsoGood on Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:03 am

Dommy73 wrote:I though LeBron is 98 and Timmy 90?


I'm not sure Duncan will be listed at 90 when the official rating drops.
Lebron will likely be 98, I just wanted to take him down one more notch, close the gap a bit between he and KD.

on another note what do you guys think of Westbrook 88 vs Harden 88 rating, but Harden got the higher ranking.... hmmm. I don't think the ranking matters much cause they both have the same rating and also they play different positions. But in 2k14 if you move westbrook to the SG his rating went up. He could be at the 2 spot this year. I personally think Westbrook is more of a threat than any SG in the league but that could be because he has KD.
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby Aderito on Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:11 pm

POINT GUARD (81)
91 - Chris Paul (-2) LAC
89 - Stephen Curry (+1) GSW
88 - Russell Westbrook (-2) OKC
88 - Tony Parker (+2) SAS
88 - Kyrie Irving (-1) CLE
88 - Derrick Rose (-2) CHI
87 - Damian Lillard (+3) POR
87 - Rajon Rondo (-3) BOS
86 - John Wall (+1) WAS
84 - Goran Dragic (+3) PHX
84 - Deron Williams (-1) BRK
84 - Ty Lawson (-1) DEN
83 - Mike Conley (0) MEM
82 - Kemba Walker (-1) CHA
82 - Jrue Holiday (-6) NOP
81 - Eric Bledsoe (-3) PHX
80 - Isaiah Thomas (-1) PHX
80 - Brandon Jennings (-3) DET
80 - Michael Carter-Williams (+3) PHI
79 - Ricky Rubio (+1) MIN
79 - Brandon Knight (+6) MIL
79 - Darren Collison (-4) SAC
78 - Jeff Teague (+2) ATL
78 - Jose Calderon (+2) NYK
78 - George Hill (+3) IND
78 - Patrick Beverley (+5) HOU
78 - Reggie Jackson (+8) OKC
77 - Jeremy Lin (+1) LAL
77 - Patrick Mills (+8) SAS
76 - Jameer Nelson (0) DAL
76 - Kirk Hinrich (+2) CHI
76 - Greivis Vasquez (+3) TOR
76 - D.J. Augustin (+1) CHI
76 - Mo Williams (-2) MIN
76 - Nate Robinson (-5) DEN
76 - Andre Miller (0) WAS
76 - Steve Nash (-4) LAL
76 - Marcus Smart (Rookie) BOS
75 - Devin Harris (-1) DAL
75 - Mario Chalmers (0) MIA
75 - Trey Burke (+2) UTA
75 - Nate Wolters (+7) MIL
75 - C.J. Watson (+6) IND
75 - Norris Cole (+8) MIA
74 - Raymond Felton (-5) DAL
74 - Shaun Livingston (+3) GSW
74 - Kendall Marshall (+4) MIL
74 - J.J. Barea (+5) MIN
74 - Brian Roberts (+13) CHA
74 - Jarrett Jack (-5) BRK
74 - Ray McCallum (+7) SAC
74 - Jerryd Bayless (+3) MIL
74 - Beno Udrih (+5) MEM
74 - Dante Exum (Rookie) UTA
74 - Elfrid Payton (Rookie) ORL
74 - Shabazz Napier (Rookie) MIA
73 - Cory Joseph (+9) SAS
73 - Aaron Brooks (-3) CHI
72 - Jordan Farmar (+3) LAC
72 - Luke Ridnour (+2) ORL
72 - Pablo Prigioni (+6) NYK
72 - Matthew Dellavedova (+6) CLE
72 - Shane Larkin (+2) NYK
72 - Isaiah Canaan (+3) HOU
72 - Austin Rivers (+6) NOP
72 - Nick Calathes (+7) MEM
72 - Zach LaVine (Rookie) MIN
71 - Tyler Ennis (Rookie) PHX
71 - Steve Blake (+1) POR
71 - Shelvin Mack (+6) ATL
70 - Will Bynum (-1) DET
70 - Phil Pressey (+2) BOS
70 - Dennis Schroder (+2) ATL
70 - Jordan Clarkson (Rookie) LAL
69 - John Lucas (+5) CLE
69 - Marquis Teague (+1) BRK
68 - Ish Smith (-3) HOU
67 - Jannero Pargo (+1) CHA
67 - Gal Mekel (+1) DAL
67 - Nemanja Nedovic (+4) GSW
65 - Donald Sloan (+1) IND

SHOOTING GUARD (82)
89 - Kobe Bryant (-4) LAL
88 - James Harden (+2) HOU
86 - Dwyane Wade (-3) MIA
85 - DeMar DeRozan (+4) TOR
84 - Lance Stephenson (+1) CHA
83 - Manu Ginobili (-3) SAS
82 - Monta Ellis (-2) DAL
82 - Klay Thompson (+4) GSW
82 - Joe Johnson (0) BRK
81 - Bradley Beal (+2) WAS
80 - Jamal Crawford (+4) LAC
80 - Jimmy Butler (+4) CHI
79 - Kevin Martin (-2) MIN
79 - Eric Gordon (-4) NOP
78 - Arron Afflalo (-1) DEN
78 - Wesley Matthews (+1) POR
78 - Victor Oladipo (+2) ORL
78 - Kyle Korver (+14) ATL
78 - Danny Green (+4) SAS
78 - Dion Waiters (+2) CLE
78 - Tony Allen (+3) MEM
78 - Avery Bradley (0) BOS
78 - J.R. Smith (-1) NYK
78 - Gerald Henderson (+4) CHA
77 - Iman Shumpert (-1) NYK
77 - Vince Carter (-1) DAL
77 - J.J. Redick (+3) LAC
77 - Louis Williams (-2) TOR
77 - O.J. Mayo (-4) MIL
77 - Tim Hardaway Jr (+3) NYK
76 - Courtney Lee (+2) MEM
76 - Terrence Ross (+2) TOR
76 - Alec Burks (+4) UTA
76 - Marcus Thornton (+1) BOS
75 - Marco Belinelli (+8) SAS
75 - Rodney Stuckey (-2) IND
75 - Gary Neal (+8) CHA
74 - Jodie Meeks (+5) DET
74 - Randy Foye (+2) DEN
74 - Thabo Sefolosha (+4) ATL
74 - Tony Wroten (+11) PHI
74 - Ben McLemore (+2) SAC
74 - Mike Miller (+4) CLE
74 - Jason Terry (-3) SAC
74 - Kent Bazemore (+1) ATL
74 - Nik Stauskas (Rookie) SAC
73 - Anthony Morrow (+8) OKC
73 - Jeremy Lamb (+2) OKC
73 - Xavier Henry (+4) LAL
73 - Martell Webster (+5) WAS
73 - C.J. Miles (+2) IND
73 - Jason Richardson (0) PHI
72 - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (+2) DET
72 - Jimmer Fredette (+1) NOP
72 - C.J. McCollum (0) POR
72 - Evan Fournier (+6) ORL
72 - Ben Gordon (-4) ORL
71 - Willie Green (+2) ORL
71 - Wayne Ellington (-1) SAC
71 - Troy Daniels (+4) HOU
71 - Jordan Adams (Rookie) MEM
71 - Nick Johnson (Rookie) HOU
71 - Gary Harris (Rookie) DEN
71 - P.J. Hairston (Rookie) CHA
70 - Will Barton (+11) POR
70 - Alexey Shved (0) PHI
70 - Elliot Williams (+4) PHI
69 - Archie Goodwin (+1) PHX
69 - Jamaal Franklin (-4) MEM
69 - Glen Rice (+3) WAS
69 - Russ Smith (Rookie) NOP
69 - Brandon Rush (-2) GSW
69 - Reggie Bullock (+5) LAC
68 - Carrick Felix (0) UTA
68 - John Jenkins (+6) ATL
68 - Garrett Temple (+3) WAS
68 - Andre Roberson (+10) OKC
68 - Markel Brown (Rookie) BRK
67 - Ricky Ledo (+2) DAL
67 - Allan Crabbe (+3) POR
67 - Ian Clark (+3) UTA
67 - C.J. Wilcox (Rookie) LAC

SMALL FORWARD (93)
98 - LeBron James (-2) CLE
95 - Kevin Durant (0) OKC
89 - Carmelo Anthony (-2) NYK
89 - Paul George (-4) IND
85 - Kawhi Leonard (+3) SAS
82 - Rudy Gay (-2) SAC
82 - Andre Iguodala (-4) GSW
81 - Paul Pierce (-3) WAS
80 - Josh Smith (-6) DET
79 - Gordon Hayward (+4) UTA
79 - Chandler Parsons (+3) DAL
79 - Luol Deng (0) MIA
79 - Nicolas Batum (+1) POR
78 - Trevor Ariza (+2) HOU
78 - Tyreke Evans (-4) NOP
78 - Jeff Green (-1) BOS
78 - Nick Young (+6) LAL
78 - Gerald Green (+2) PHX
78 - Wilson Chandler (-3) DEN
78 - Jabari Parker (Rookie) MIL
77 - Shawn Marion (-1) CLE
77 - Draymond Green (+2) GSW
77 - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (-1) CHA
77 - Danilo Gallinari (+1) DEN
77 - Andrew Wiggins (Rookie) MIN
76 - Tobias Harris (+1) ORL
76 - P.J. Tucker (+7) PHX
76 - Matt Barnes (+1) LAC
76 - Harrison Barnes (+4) GSW
76 - Caron Butler (-4) DET
76 - Evan Turner (-4) BOS
76 - Danny Granger (-5) MIA
75 - DeMarre Carroll (+11) ATL
75 - Corey Brewer (+1) MIN
75 - Tayshaun Prince (+3) MEM
75 - Marcus Morris (+8) PHX
75 - Khris Middleton (+15) MIL
75 - Doug McDermott (Rookie) CHI
74 - Al-Farouq Aminu (+1) DAL
74 - Mike Dunleavey (+4) CHI
74 - Kyle Singler (+10) DET
74 - Maurice Harkless (+3) ORL
74 - Giannis Antetokounmpo (+14) MIL
74 - Andrei Kirilenko (-3) BRK
74 - Luc Mbah a Moute (+3) PHI
74 - Gerald Wallace (+2) BOS
74 - Jared Dudley (+2) LAC
74 - Bojan Bogdanovic (Rookie) BRK
73 - Wesley Johnson (+4) LAL
73 - John Salmons (+1) NOP
73 - Marvin Williams (+8) CHA
72 - Richard Jefferson (0) DAL
72 - Jae Crowder (+8) DAL
72 - Tony Snell (+10) CHI
72 - Steve Novak (+19) UTA
72 - Dorell Wright (+1) POR
72 - Jeff Taylor (+7) CHA
72 - T.J. Warren (Rookie) PHX
71 - Hollis Thompson (+13) PHI
71 - Alan Anderson (+1) BRK
71 - Chris Copeland (+6) IND
71 - Derrick Williams (+2) SAC
71 - Rodney Hood (Rookie) UTA
70 - James Johnson (+4) TOR
70 - Chase Budinger (+1) MIN
70 - Cartier Martin (+5) DET
70 - Carlos Delfino (+1) MIL
70 - Cleanthony Early (Rookie) NYK
70 - James Ennis (Rookie) MIA
69 - Perry Jones (0) OKC
69 - James Jones (+12) CLE
69 - Darius Miller (+5) NOP
69 - Alonzo Gee (-2) HOU
69 - Landry Fields (-3) TOR
69 - Travis Outlaw (+2) NYK
69 - Robert Covington (-2) HOU
68 - Quincy Miller (+8) DEN
68 - Quincy Pondexter (+2) MEM
68 - Robbie Hummel (+10) MIN
68 - Tony Mitchell (+10) DET
68 - James Young (Rookie) BOS
68 - Jerami Grant (Rookie) PHI
68 - Otto Porter (-6) WAS
67 - Luigi Datome (0) DET
67 - Shabazz Muhammad (+2) MIN
67 - Austin Daye (+3) SAS
66 - Solomon Hill (+4) IND
66 - Luke Babbitt (+6) NOP
66 - Victor Claver (+5) POR
66 - Reggie Williams (+2) MIA
66 - Sergey Karasev (+6) BRK
65 - Josh Huestis (Rookie) OKC
64 - Bruno Caboclo (Rookie) TOR

POWER FORWARD (84)
90 - Tim Duncan (+3) SAS
89 - Kevin Love (+3) CLE
89 - Blake Griffin (+2) LAC
88 - Anthony Davis (+3) NOP
88 - Dirk Nowitzki (+5) DAL
88 - LaMarcus Aldridge (-1) POR
85 - Paul Millsap (+5) ATL
84 - Serge Ibaka (0) OKC
84 - Zach Randolph (+1) MEM
82 - Pau Gasol (+2) CHI
82 - David Lee (+1) GSW
81 - Kenneth Faried (+1) DEN
80 - David West (0) IND
80 - Greg Monroe (0) DET
80 - Nene (+1) WAS
80 - Taj Gibson (+1) CHI
78 - Thaddeus Young (-1) MIN
78 - Derrick Favors (+1) UTA
78 - Carlos Boozer (+3) LAL
78 - Boris Diaw (+12) SAS
78 - Jared Sullinger (+2) BOS
77 - Terrence Jones (+4) HOU
77 - Amir Johnson (+6) TOR
77 - Amare Stoudemire (-5) NYK
77 - Kevin Garnett (-2) BRK
77 - Luis Scola (-2) IND
77 - Ryan Anderson (+11) NOP
76 - Channing Frye (+8) ORL
76 - Tristan Thompson (+2) CLE
76 - Julius Randle (Rookie) LAL
75 - John Henson (+10) MIL
75 - Brandon Bass (+5) BOS
75 - Jason Thompson (+7) SAC
75 - Patrick Patterson (+2) TOR
75 - Thomas Robinson (0) POR
75 - Carl Landry (-1) SAC
75 - Nikola Mirotic (Rookie) CHI
74 - Josh McRoberts (+5) MIA
74 - Nick Collison (+10) OKC
74 - Glen Davis (-1) LAC
74 - Trevor Booker (+5) UTA
74 - Reggie Evans (+7) SAC
74 - Aaron Gordon (Rookie) ORL
73 - Kris Humphries (+1) WAS
73 - Ersan Ilyasova (0) MIL
73 - Ed Davis (+1) LAL
73 - Cody Zeller (+5) CHA
73 - Anthony Tolliver (+15) PHX
73 - Tyler Hansbrough (+1) TOR
73 - Matt Bonner (+12) SAS
72 - Mike Scott (+7) ATL
72 - Andrea Bargnani (+2) NYK
72 - Marreese Speights (+1) GSW
72 - Udonis Haslem (+1) MIA
72 - Noah Vonleh (Rookie) CHA
71 - Ryan Kelly (+10) LAL
71 - Mirza Teletovic (+5) BRK
71 - DeJuan Blair (+2) WAS
71 - Andrew Nicholson (+2) ORL
71 - Jonas Jerebko (+5) DET
71 - Jeff Adrien (+8) HOU
71 - Adreian Payne (Rookie) ATL
71 - Jarnell Stokes (Rookie) MEM
70 - Kyle O'Quinn (+8) ORL
70 - Jeremy Evans (+10) UTA
70 - Drew Gooden (+1) WAS
70 - Anthony Bennett (-3) MIN
69 - Donatas Motiejunas (+11) HOU
69 - Darrell Arthur (+1) DEN
69 - Jon Leuer (+6) MEM
68 - Lavoy Allen (+2) IND
68 - Arnett Moultrie (+8) PHI
68 - Mitch McGary (Rookie) OKC
67 - Jeremy Tyler (+4) SAC
67 - Quincy Acy (+3) NYK
67 - Greg Smith (+6) DAL
67 - Jarvis Varnado (+6) PHI
67 - Josh Powell (+5) HOU
67 - Kyle Anderson (Rookie) SAS
67 - Johnny O'Bryant (Rookie) MIL
66 - Cameron Bairstow (Rookie) CHI
66 - Malcolm Thomas (+1) CLE
65 - Brandon Davies (0) PHI
64 - Shavlik Randolph (+4) PHX

CENTER (70)
88 - Dwight Howard (-3) HOU
87 - Joakim Noah (+5) CHI
87 - Al Jefferson (+3) CHA
86 - DeMarcus Cousins (+6) SAC
85 - Marc Gasol (+3) MEM
84 - Chris Bosh (+3) MIA
83 - Andre Drummond (+2) DET
83 - Al Horford (+1) ATL
83 - Brook Lopez (+3) BRK
81 - DeAndre Jordan (+1) LAC
81 - Marcin Gortat (+1) WAS
81 - Nikola Pekovic (+2) MIN
80 - Roy Hibbert (+4) IND
80 - Nikola Vucevic (+6) ORL
80 - Andrew Bogut (+3) GSW
79 - Tyson Chandler (+2) DAL
79 - Larry Sanders (+1) MIL
78 - Jonas Valanciunas (+10) TOR
78 - Miles Plumlee (+10) PHX
77 - Robin Lopez (+8) POR
77 - Tiago Splitter (+7) SAS
77 - J.J. Hickson (0) DEN
77 - Mason Plumlee (+16) BRK
77 - Joel Embiid (Rookie) PHI
76 - Jordan Hill (+5) LAL
76 - Samuel Dalembert (+2) NYK
76 - Omer Asik (+5) NOP
76 - Spencer Hawes (+6) LAC
76 - Chris Kaman (+1) POR
76 - Nerlens Noel (+5) PHI
75 - Anderson Varejao (-2) CLE
75 - Brandon Wright (+7) DAL
75 - Chris Andersen (+8) MIA
75 - Enes Kanter (+6) UTA
75 - Ian Mahinmi (+6) IND
74 - Kendrick Perkins (+4) OKC
74 - Timofey Mozgov (+7) DEN
74 - Kelly Olynyk (+6) BOS
74 - Steven Adams (+10) OKC
74 - Kevin Seraphin (+5) WAS
74 - JaVale McGee (-1) DEN
73 - Bismack Biyombo (+8) CHA
72 - Gorgui Dieng (+9) MIN
72 - Jason Smith (+10) NYK
72 - Kosta Koufos (+5) MEM
72 - Vitor Faverani (+1) BOS
71 - Rudy Gobert (+19) UTA
70 - Tyler Zeller (+5) BOS
69 - Pero Antic (+4) ATL
69 - Zaza Pachulia (+4) MIL
69 - Henry Sims (+9) PHI
69 - Jeff Withey (+9) NOP
69 - Chuck Hayes (0) TOR
69 - Justin Hamilton (New) MIA
69 - Jusuf Nurkic (Rookie) DEN
68 - Ronny Turiaf (+4) MIN
68 - Joel Freeland (+5) POR
68 - Meyers Leonard (+9) POR
68 - Alexis Ajinca (+20) NOP
67 - Robert Sacre (+5) LAL
67 - Jeff Ayres (+4) SAS
67 - Alex Len (+5) PHX
67 - Cole Aldrich (+6) NYK
67 - Aaron Gray (+11) DET
67 - Miroslav Raduljica (+11) MIL
67 - Ognjen Kuzmic (+4) GSW
67 - Festus Ezeli (+4) GSW
66 - DeWayne Dedmon (+6) ORL
66 - Joel Anthony (+7) BOS
65 - Brendan Haywood (+1) CLE
65 - Hasheem Thabeet (+8) OKC

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SG: Vince Carter, Tony Wroten, Martell Webster, Russ Smith, Jimmer Fredette, Alan Anderson, Reggie Bullock
SF: Draymond Green, Marvin Williams, Steve Novak, Perry Jones
PF: DeJuan Blair, Kyle O'Quinn, Jeremy Tyler, Greg Smith, Kyle Anderson
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby TBM on Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:16 pm

VC is a shooting guard.
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby ThePointForward on Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:51 pm

Aderito, how can LBJ be 98 and -2 from last year? :D
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby skoadam on Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:10 pm

Andrew wrote:Overall ratings aren't completely meaningless, but their importance is often overblown. If nothing else, they're not always calculated ideally; athletic ratings can have too much of an impact on the overall (positively or negatively), and role players who are supremely talented in one or two areas and quite valuable as a result may appear underrated because their weaknesses in other areas drag down the overall.


If u are still playin 2k13, please load up my newest roster, review roster, look at overalls(u will be shocked how bad they are) run the game(even cpu vs cpu), simulate seasons, playoffs , look at stats and u will understand how much overalls are not important. I think all other overalls fetishist should check this but i understand 2k13 is no more installed on their computers.

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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby Aderito on Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:53 pm

Dommy73 wrote:Aderito, how can LBJ be 98 and -2 from last year? :D
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby Aderito on Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:57 pm

TBM wrote:VC is a shooting guard.

No he is a Small Foward now... You didn´t watch somo Mavs games last year... Most of hes playing time he was playing with Calderon and Monta Ellis
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby bigh0rt on Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:07 pm

skoadam wrote:
Andrew wrote:Overall ratings aren't completely meaningless, but their importance is often overblown. If nothing else, they're not always calculated ideally; athletic ratings can have too much of an impact on the overall (positively or negatively), and role players who are supremely talented in one or two areas and quite valuable as a result may appear underrated because their weaknesses in other areas drag down the overall.


If u are still playin 2k13, please load up my newest roster, review roster, look at overalls(u will be shocked how bad they are) run the game(even cpu vs cpu), simulate seasons, playoffs , look at stats and u will understand how much overalls are not important. I think all other overalls fetishist should check this but i understand 2k13 is no more installed on their computers.

You're minimizing the effect that Overalls have in Association Mode with respect to how playing time is doled out by the CPU, how contracts and trades are impacted, etc. As Andrew said, they are not completely meaningless, but their importance is often overblown. A 90 OVR player is not necessarily 'better' than an 88 OVR player; at least this has been the case in the past. It's so silly and trivial to argue over a few points on OVR -- but it's also refreshing to hear that the formulae have been tweaked to hopefully increase the meaning of the OVR in 2K15 compared to previous versions of the game.
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby skoadam on Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:08 pm

If for you overalls effect on trades and contracts are more important than stats and gameplay i have nothing more to say. Everyone like something else, its not our fault we always have to choose between something. Hope 2k15 will change this.
Im happy that you understand how silly is arguing about few points on OVR, this is all im talking about here.

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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby TBM on Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:57 am

Aderito wrote:
TBM wrote:VC is a shooting guard.

No he is a Small Foward now... You didn´t watch somo Mavs games last year... Most of hes playing time he was playing with Calderon and Monta Ellis

That's not how that works. Lebron played PF for most of his time on the Heat. He's still a small forward, though.

Also, Draymond Green is a small forward. So is Steve Novak...and Perry Jones.

The whole list of errors you have makes no sense to me. Just my two cents.
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby ThePointForward on Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:00 am

Carter is listed as "Guard-Forward" on nba.com, so I guess you can slide him back and forth category-wise.
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby Aderito on Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:01 am

NBA 2K15 Player Ratings Arranged By Team

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With all of the overall player ratings released for NBA 2K15, we figured it would be easier to look at, if we arranged all of the players, by team. Enjoy.

Atlanta Hawks
85 Paul Millsap
83 Al Horford
78 Kyle Korver
78 Jeff Teague
75 DeMarre Carroll
74 Kent Bazemore
74 Thabo Sefolosha
72 Mike Scott
71 Shelvin Mack
71 Adreian Payne
70 Dennis Schroder
69 Pero Antic
68 John Jenkins

Boston Celtics
87 Rajon Rondo
78 Jeff Green
78 Avery Bradley
78 Jared Sullinger
76 Evan Turner
76 Marcus Smart
76 Marcus Thornton
75 Brandon Bass
74 Kelly Olynyk
74 Gerald Wallace
72 Vitor Faverani
70 Tyler Zeller
70 Phil Pressey
68 James Young
66 Joel Anthony

Brooklyn Nets
84 Deron Williams
83 Brook Lopez
82 Joe Johnson
77 Mason Plumlee
77 Kevin Garnett
74 Jarrett Jack
74 Andrei Kirilenko
74 Bojan Bogdanovic
71 Mirza Teletovic
71 Alan Anderson
69 Marquis Teague
68 Markel Brown
66 Sergey Karasev

Charlotte Hornets
87 Al Jefferson
84 Lance Stephenson
82 Kemba Walker
78 Gerald Henderson
77 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
75 Gary Neal
74 Brian Roberts
73 Cody Zeller
73 Bismack Biyombo
73 Marvin Williams
72 Noah Vonleh
72 Jeff Taylor
71 P.J. Hairston
67 Jannero Pargo

Chicago Bulls
88 Derrick Rose
87 Joakim Noah
82 Pau Gasol
80 Taj Gibson
80 Jimmy Butler
76 Kirk Hinrich
75 Doug McDermott
75 Nikola Mirotic
74 Mike Dunleavy
73 Aaron Brooks
72 Tony Snell
66 Cameron Bairstow

Cleveland Cavaliers
98 LeBron James
89 Kevin Love
86 Kyrie Irving
78 Dion Waiters
77 Shawn Marion
76 Tristan Thompson
75 Anderson Varejao
74 Mike Miller
72 Matthew Dellavedova
69 James Jones
69 John Lucas
66 Malcolm Thomas
65 Brendan Haywood

Dallas Mavericks
88 Dirk Nowitzki
82 Monta Ellis
79 Chandler Parsons
79 Tyson Chandler
76 Jameer Nelson
75 Brandan Wright
75 Devin Harris
74 Al-Farouq Aminu
74 Raymond Felton
72 Richard Jefferson
72 Jae Crowder
67 Ricky Ledo
67 Greg Smith
67 Gal Mekel

Denver Nuggets
84 Ty Lawson
81 Kenneth Faried
78 Arron Afflalo
78 Wilson Chandler
77 J.J. Hickson
77 Danilo Gallinari
76 Nate Robinson
74 Timofey Mozgov
74 Randy Foye
74 JaVale McGee
71 Gary Harris
69 Jusuf Nurkic
69 Darrell Arthur
68 Quincy Miller

Detroit Pistons
83 Andre Drummond
80 Greg Monroe
80 Josh Smith
80 Brandon Jennings
76 D.J. Augustin
76 Caron Butler
74 Jodie Meeks
74 Kyle Singler
72 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
71 Jonas Jerebko
70 Cartier Martin
70 Will Bynum
68 Tony Mitchell
67 Luigi Datome
67 Aaron Gray

Golden State Warriors
89 Stephen Curry
82 Klay Thompson
82 Andre Iguodala
82 David Lee
80 Andrew Bogut
77 Draymond Green
76 Harrison Barnes
74 Shaun Livingston
72 Marreese Speights
69 Brandon Rush
67 Festus Ezeli
67 Ognjen Kuzmic
67 Nemanja Nedovic

Houston Rockets
88 James Harden
88 Dwight Howard
78 Trevor Ariza
78 Patrick Beverley
77 Terrence Jones
72 Isaiah Canaan
71 Troy Daniels
71 Jeff Adrien
71 Nick Johnson
69 Alonzo Gee
69 Donatas Motiejunas
69 Robert Covington
68 Ish Smith
67 Josh Powell

Indiana Pacers
89 Paul George
80 David West
80 Roy Hibbert
78 George Hill
77 Luis Scola
75 Ian Mahinmi
75 Rodney Stuckey
75 C.J. Watson
73 C.J. Miles
71 Chris Copeland
68 Lavoy Allen
66 Solomon Hill
65 Donald Sloan

L.A. Clippers
91 Chris Paul
89 Blake Griffin
81 DeAndre Jordan
80 Jamal Crawford
77 J.J. Redick
76 Spencer Hawes
76 Matt Barnes
74 Glen Davis
72 Jordan Farmar
69 Reggie Bullock
67 C.J. Wilcox

L.A. Lakers
89 Kobe Bryant
78 Carlos Boozer
78 Nick Young
77 Jeremy Lin
76 Julius Randle
76 Steve Nash
76 Jordan Hill
73 Ed Davis
73 Wesley Johnson
73 Xavier Henry
71 Ryan Kelly
70 Jordan Clarkson
67 Robert Sacre

Memphis Grizzlies
85 Marc Gasol
84 Zach Randolph
83 Mike Conley
78 Tony Allen
77 Vince Carter
76 Courtney Lee
75 Tayshaun Prince
74 Beno Udrih
72 Kosta Koufos
72 Nick Calathes
71 Jordan Adams
71 Jarnell Stokes
69 Jamaal Franklin
69 Jon Leuer
68 Quincy Pondexter

Miami Heat
86 Dwyane Wade
84 Chris Bosh
79 Luol Deng
76 Danny Granger
75 Mario Chalmers
75 Chris Andersen
75 Norris Cole
74 Josh McRoberts
74 Shabazz Napier
72 Udonis Haslem
70 James Ennis
69 Justin Hamilton
66 Reggie Williams

Milwaukee Bucks
79 Brandon Knight
79 Larry Sanders
78 Jabari Parker
77 O.J. Mayo
75 John Henson
75 Khris Middleton
75 Nate Wolters
74 Jared Dudley
74 Giannis Antetokounmpo
74 Jerryd Bayless
74 Kendall Marshall
73 Ersan Ilyasova
70 Carlos Delfino
69 Zaza Pachulia
67 Johnny O'Bryant
67 Miroslav Raduljica

Minnesota Timberwolves
81 Nikola Pekovic
79 Ricky Rubio
79 Kevin Martin
78 Thaddeus Young
77 Andrew Wiggins
76 Mo Williams
75 Corey Brewer
74 J.J. Barea
72 Gorgui Dieng
72 Zach LaVine
70 Anthony Bennett
70 Chase Budinger
68 Ronny Turiaf
68 Robbie Hummel
67 Shabazz Muhammad

New Orleans Pelicans
88 Anthony Davis
82 Jrue Holiday
79 Eric Gordon
78 Tyreke Evans
77 Ryan Anderson
76 Omer Asik
73 John Salmons
72 Jimmer Fredette
72 Austin Rivers
69 Darius Miller
69 Jeff Withey
69 Russ Smith
68 Alexis Ajinca
66 Luke Babbitt

New York Knicks
89 Carmelo Anthony
78 Jose Calderon
78 J.R. Smith
77 Iman Shumpert
77 Tim Hardaway Jr
77 Amar'e Stoudemire
76 Samuel Dalembert
72 Pablo Prigioni
72 Andrea Bargnani
72 Shane Larkin
72 Jason Smith
70 Cleanthony Early
69 Travis Outlaw
67 Quincy Acy
67 Cole Aldrich


Oklahoma City Thunder
95 Kevin Durant
88 Russell Westbrook
84 Serge Ibaka
78 Reggie Jackson
74 Nick Collison
74 Steven Adams
74 Kendrick Perkins
73 Anthony Morrow
73 Jeremy Lamb
69 Perry Jones
68 Mitch McGary
68 Andre Roberson
65 Hasheem Thabeet
65 Josh Huestis

Orlando Magic
80 Nikola Vucevic
78 Victor Oladipo
76 Tobias Harris
76 Channing Frye
74 Maurice Harkless
74 Aaron Gordon
74 Elfrid Payton
72 Luke Ridnour
72 Evan Fournier
72 Ben Gordon
71 Willie Green
71 Andrew Nicholson
70 Kyle O'Quinn
66 Dewayne Dedmon

Philadelphia 76ers
80 Michael Carter-Williams
77 Joel Embiid
76 Nerlens Noel
74 Tony Wroten
74 Luc Mbah a Moute
73 Jason Richardson
71 Hollis Thompson
70 Alexey Shved
70 Elliot Williams
69 Henry Sims
68 Arnett Moultrie
68 Jerami Grant
67 Jarvis Varnado
65 Brandon Davies
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby TBM on Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:05 am

Someone should figure out the team overall averages to figure out the team rankings. For example, The Cavs are a 76.
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby Aderito on Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:11 am

Here is a list of the average player rating for each team, sorted highest to lowest....

Chicago Bulls 77.3
Los Angeles Clippers 77.2
San Antonio Spurs 77.0
Cleveland Cavaliers 76.5
Golden State Warriors 75.7
Charlotte Hornets 75.6
Los Angeles Lakers 75.2
Sacramento Kings 75.1
Washington Wizards 75.1
Miami Heat 75.0
Oklahoma City Thunder 75.0
Memphis Grizzlies 74.9
Denver Nuggets 74.9
Toronto Raptors 74.9
Dallas Mavericks 74.8
Indiana Pacers 74.8
Phoenix Suns 74.7
Brooklyn Nets 74.6
Atlanta Hawks 74.5
Boston Celtics 74.3
Portland Trailblazers 74.3
New York Knicks 74.2
New Orleans Pelicans 74.1
Houston Rockets 74.0
Detroit Pistons 73.9
Minnesota Timberwolves 73.7
Milwaukee Bucks 73.6
Orlando Magic 73.3
Utah Jazz 73.1
Philadelphia 76ers 71.2
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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby TBM on Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:50 am

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Re: #NBA2KRank

Postby mantazzo on Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:45 am

Fully updated the list. Also added a poll. Anything else?
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