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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby GloryD on Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:19 am

fjccommish wrote:At the end of my 10 day contract I was averaging 13.4 minutes, 9.8 points, 9 rebounds. Sac gave me a new 10 day contract, although I didn't earn a permanent roster spot.

What team wouldn't kill for a guy to come off the bench with those numbers?

SF or?
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby fjccommish on Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:42 am

I was a Center, although the announcers kept calling me a SF.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby JWL3 on Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:32 am

GloryD wrote:
fjccommish wrote:At the end of my 10 day contract I was averaging 13.4 minutes, 9.8 points, 9 rebounds. Sac gave me a new 10 day contract, although I didn't earn a permanent roster spot.

What team wouldn't kill for a guy to come off the bench with those numbers?

SF or?



I think it's scripted. I had a miserable C- average after first contract and they still gave me a second. Had a miserable C- average again and they GAVE ME A CONTRACT. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! hahaha. Every single game I entered, the score magically become double digit leads against the Kings. I'm tempted to average an F just to see what would happen and if they'd end my career. Do they ever demote you to the D leagues and release you?
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby Troyork on Sun Oct 19, 2014 1:37 pm

Eesh, the racial tone in this topic can make an infant cringe.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby bigh0rt on Sun Oct 19, 2014 1:40 pm

I assumed this was just fjccommish's typical trolling... :o

Either way we're close to just locking this up.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby Call_M3_Mr-T on Sun Oct 19, 2014 3:36 pm

Troyork wrote:Eesh, the racial tone in this topic can make an infant cringe.

Glad to know I'm not the only one..
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby shadowgrin on Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:20 pm

bigh0rt wrote:I assumed this was just fjccommish's typical trolling...

When it comes to the game commentary he's not trolling.
His opinions may not be agreeable but his gripes with the game commentary is a legit criticism of the game that should be improved upon by the devs.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby Andrew on Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:29 pm

I'm finding this year's personality a bit whiny and arrogant, too. It definitely hurts the mode's appeal to me; granted, I'm not a huge fan of the current direction to begin with, but it feels even less accessible when I don't really care for the personality of my MyPLAYER.

The grading logic isn't too bad, although it's frustrating that the game still frantically switches your defensive assignment back and forth on the same play, seemingly trying to catch you out and hit you with a deduction. The VC rewards aren't too bad for the limited playing time you get out of the gate, but it still stings a bit to have played a really solid ten minutes or so, and have it be called a "poor" or "fair" performance.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby Kevin on Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:28 pm

Hate the attitude too. My player's a dick, imo.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby Andrew on Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:07 pm

I think more branching/role-playing elements are needed. There's a bit of a disconnect when you're acting brash and jerkish in non-interactive cutscenes,then choose the humble/politer answer when you are given a choice. For example, in the very first cutscene, it'd be nice to choose whether you throw a tantrum or take a calmer, more philosophical approach.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby fjccommish on Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:11 am

The player doesn't only act jerkish/thuggish when things don't go his way. He acts the same way when things go well. He's overly emotional on the up and down side.

Do you think Tim Duncan acted like that when he was young? Young players may lose their temper. They may over celebrate minor successes. But they don't do it all the time like the Myplayer guy does it.

The guy is always over emotional. He's reactive to every situation, rather than being controlled and patient for the long term goal. Dennis Rodman acted like that throughout his career. World of Freedom or whatever his name is (Meta World Peace) acted like that and still acts like that. That kind of person matures into an AI - don't talk to me about practice. He matures into the type of player who won't accept a secondary role as his skills decline.

The commentary throughout the mode is awful. Mentioning it isn't trolling, unless all the mentions of how terrific the commentary is (in every review) is trolling. In trying to be detailed about situations, the commentary ends up misapplied and being wildly inaccurate. Talking about a team hitting their threes in the early going, after they hit a two in the late 4th quarter, makes no sense.

The coaching is just as bad. It's misapplied to situations. The coach telling the team to keep getting the ball in the paint makes no sense if the team wasn't throwing the ball into the paint, and if the only inside points came off rebound put backs. Keep doing what we didn't do throughout the first half?

My Career is an awful mode. It has no options. You have to play as one personality through one scenario. A more open style (the sandbox style) lets people apply their imagination, immerse themselves, and have fun. A severely structured mode creates opportunities for disbelief. "Wait a second, I wouldn't act like that." If you want to tell a story about a childish guy who isn't drafted but works hard to become a superstar, then make a short movie. If you want to make a mode in which people can play a story, then let them make it their story.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby Patr1ck on Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:29 am

My favourite thing is that DeMarcus Cousins is injured with a broken ankle and walking around in the cutscenes talking about his performance after the game. Oh, and does that high school coach have a bit of a crush on MyPlayer? Or is it just me?

I'm going the complete a-hole/negative route on PS4. It reminds me of some of the NBA players who have said things they shouldn't have.

Oh, and during courtside interviews, MyPlayer does this funny thing where he turns his back to the camera while finishing his last sentence, then he starts to walk away.

I agree with your sandbox style idea, fjccommish. I would like to have more choices during the conversation, even if it was something like Fallout, where you could see what you are about to say and it's just a list of choices. Otherwise, they could use kind of what they did in MyCareer a few years back, but with things like Defensive/Controversial/Professional/Passive/Dismissive, and things like that. I didn't play much of last years MyCareer after hearing about how linear of a story it was, but they have to start somewhere with the branching.

On another note, I think they are doing a more exaggerated direction with regards to cutscenes. Look at your agent, he is way over the top. And, like you pointed out, the MyPlayer himself has that going for him as well.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby fjccommish on Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:13 am

If my agent acted like that, if he acted like a dog the GM had to heel, I would fire him on the spot. Woops, that's not in this script.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby SPS on Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:25 am

Yeesh, not liking that "thug" term it's got kind of a quiet racial tone to it, just saying. I grew up around REAL thugs, myPlayer is not one he's just a whiny, arrogant, crybaby. His slang doesn't bother me because I've used it in my lifetime but I don't think that makes me a thug. But I agree, this years MP is every emotional and everywhere with his reactions.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby deluxxe on Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:20 am

"you cant get ANYTHING to drop!!!" says the coach after going 1 for 2 from the field in like 1 minute of game time in my first ever NBA game. seriously?
Stupid stuff like this makes me stay from this silly mode. would way rather play MyGM

would be nice if you could turn off the cheese cutscenes and player / coach interactions
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby Maximus89 on Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:25 am

Everyone is so sensitive and wants to bring race into it. It's about culture. Hip hop culture. To bring race into it means that you automatically assume there is only 1 or 2 races associated with that culture. That just isn't true, but the voice actor sounds like he's mocking people who speak that way and exaggerating it. I get that hip hop culture is a part of basketball culture, but for every Iverson there are country boy Karl Malone's out there. For every white chocolate, there is a John Stockton.

Would be cool to get different accents from all over the world. Hey, better yet. let us record our own lines. I would LOVE to hear myself speaking with my face on myplayer. But, i get that some people don't love themselves as much as i love myself :D
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby Nightfly67 on Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:56 am

SPS wrote:Yeesh, not liking that "thug" term it's got kind of a quiet racial tone to it, just saying. I grew up around REAL thugs, myPlayer is not one he's just a whiny, arrogant, crybaby. His slang doesn't bother me because I've used it in my lifetime but I don't think that makes me a thug. But I agree, this years MP is every emotional and everywhere with his reactions.
Many people who are not from the United States of America associate this kind of vocabulary with thugs thanks to all those rappers who act like thugs. There's nothing racial about it, if you ask me.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby Patr1ck on Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:36 am

So how many nba players talk like that? And since we are on the topic of voices. With the nba being the global game that it is, they could use some accents to choose for voices.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby GloryD on Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:23 am

Pdub wrote:So how many nba players talk like that? And since we are on the topic of voices. With the nba being the global game that it is, they could use some accents to choose for voices.

I suggested getting voices from all races from Caucasian to Latino to Asian to French to Australian...you get where I am going with this it needs more diversity voice wise in a lot of ways not everyone sounds like an African American it gets very stale for me (I am african american btw) if they can go out and get voices for numerous mentors from the NBA then why can't they bring in people from different races to do voiceovers for MyCareer.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby Andrew on Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:18 am

Pdub wrote:I agree with your sandbox style idea, fjccommish. I would like to have more choices during the conversation, even if it was something like Fallout, where you could see what you are about to say and it's just a list of choices. Otherwise, they could use kind of what they did in MyCareer a few years back, but with things like Defensive/Controversial/Professional/Passive/Dismissive, and things like that. I didn't play much of last years MyCareer after hearing about how linear of a story it was, but they have to start somewhere with the branching.


I'd be all for that. I also think that needs to be available from the start, so that you can define your personality early on. Obviously, there's a finite number of lines and cutscenes they can include, but a few different ones based on broad character types (arrogant/controversial, balanced/professional, laid back/indifferent, colourful/humourous, for example) could work.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby Kevin on Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:48 pm

Girlfriends, though.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby Troyork on Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:12 am

Maximus89 wrote:Everyone is so sensitive and wants to bring race into it.


No one "brought" race into it, it was here the whole time.

Maximus89 wrote:It's about culture. Hip hop culture. To bring race into it means that you automatically assume there is only 1 or 2 races associated with that culture. That just isn't true


Oh it absolutely is true. Just because Hip hop music is worldwide doesn't mean the culture is as well. Hip hop culture is without question associated with, and an instance of, the Black community. Although I will agree on one thing:

Maximus89 wrote:the voice actor sounds like he's mocking people who speak that way and exaggerating it.


People keep saying "Why does the MyCareer voice guy have to be a black guy" which has its own racist vibes to it, but it also completely ignores the fact that an incredibly easy look at the credits in the game would reveal that the voice actor does not look like what people think, in conjunction with sounding like a parody.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby fjccommish on Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:24 am

"No one "brought" race into it, it was here the whole time."

I deny your race card.
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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby zz21 on Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:33 am

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Re: I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

Postby Troyork on Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:45 am

fjccommish wrote:I deny your race card.


Says the person who conflates lower-class drug dealers and gang members with a person who says "Aiight."
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