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Re: First Impressions

Postby mp3 on Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:15 pm

Ok so, after not jumping on the ps4 bandwagon at the start of the year i finally caved once i played nba 2k15 on the ps3 i kind of felt robbed.

I knew it would be just an update of nba 2k14 but i thought to myself they will have all the real rookies, updated rosters and all new kits and courts along with improved gameplay.

I couldnt of being more wrong, the ps3 imo took a step back imo. The presentation was just flat and a lot of the players just looked dated and the roster was missing so many players i counted at least 25 players that should be in the game on some roster or another, is 2k in a hurry to update that? i doubt it and why would they when they have next gen out??

Saying all this i knew what i was getting into when i went straight from work to the store to pick up my copy around 4pm, i was done playing with it by 8ish. Worst release date for me ever as its usually one of the highlights to my year lol.

First thing yesterday morning (Sat) i packed up my ps3.. games and pads and traded it in with a load of my hard earned for a ps4 (DriveClub) package console and a copy of nba 2k15.

WOoowwwwwwwwWWWW.

This is all i can say right now......
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Re: First Impressions

Postby isaacgeo on Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:46 pm

Playing on PC, im a veteran 2k user, i have to say that Defense is impossible to be played. Difficulty on All-Star and losing by 20 points. It's frustrating to play perimeter D as well post D.

On offense, i prefer 2k14, more clear and easy to master. Can't pull moves that you want, on the contrary dribbling is fun and easy. Anyone else experiencing a hard time with defense?
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Re: First Impressions

Postby fjccommish on Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:06 am

Try backing off a little on D.

I just saw the video show, whatever it's called. It loves to play as soon as I load the game.

"Hey guys!!!!!!!!!!"

It's not good.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby Kenny_C on Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:37 am

Defense is too hard to play, and CPU is TOO GOOD, in some guys they literally never miss! too damn frustrating tbh!
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Re: First Impressions

Postby bigh0rt on Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:40 am

Kenny_C wrote:Defense is too hard to play, and CPU is TOO GOOD, in some guys they literally never miss! too damn frustrating tbh!

It's supposed to be challenging and realistic. You shouldn't win all the time. Lower the difficulty until you get better.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby fjccommish on Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:48 am

Play at a really low difficulty. Get used to running the plays and playing defense.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby bigh0rt on Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:51 am

fjccommish wrote:Play at a really low difficulty. Get used to running the plays and playing defense.

This is what I had to do. All the way down to Rookie to adjust to the difference from 2K14 PC to 2K15. They play as completely different games, despite the controls being near-identical. Anybody expecting to just jump in and play 2K15 the same way you did 2K14 for PC is going to be sorely mistaken. 2K15 requires you to play a much more realistic style of play. When you take risks, you actually feel relief when they pay off, cause it's 50/50 or worse sometimes; compared to previous games where you could just throw the ball anywhere recklessly without any concern. The more I get to play, the better I'm getting, upping the difficulty, etc. On-Ball Defense is hard, but only because in past games it's been entirely too easy. I'm loving it.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby mortiis on Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:15 pm

How to put tattoos on created players and headbands also?
Can i change button configuration (ps4)?
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Re: First Impressions

Postby ThePointForward on Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:19 pm

bigh0rt wrote:
fjccommish wrote:Play at a really low difficulty. Get used to running the plays and playing defense.

This is what I had to do. All the way down to Rookie to adjust to the difference from 2K14 PC to 2K15. They play as completely different games, despite the controls being near-identical. Anybody expecting to just jump in and play 2K15 the same way you did 2K14 for PC is going to be sorely mistaken. 2K15 requires you to play a much more realistic style of play. When you take risks, you actually feel relief when they pay off, cause it's 50/50 or worse sometimes; compared to previous games where you could just throw the ball anywhere recklessly without any concern. The more I get to play, the better I'm getting, upping the difficulty, etc. On-Ball Defense is hard, but only because in past games it's been entirely too easy. I'm loving it.


I just jumped in and it was OK, but then again I played 2K14 sim like and I play basketball regurarly irl :)

But as with any game, if you feel like getting beaten too much, you can lower the difficulty and work your way up.

I love what they did with difficulty, it really separates players.
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Re: First Impressions / offensive rebounding + putback issue

Postby jac8 on Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:05 pm

I'm not one who only sees the negatives in games, I actually enjoy 2k15 more than previous versions but the offensive reb putback issue just does so much damage to the experience. This is the one big gripe I have with the game.

I think its a combination of things actually. If I were to break it down, the issue is 5% cpu offensive board advantage + 75% putback tendecy + 15% quickness boost + 5% shoot in traffic ability.

The offensive rebounding is something that can be offset with the sliders, still not much but it helps somewhat. It's the putback tendency that does the damage actually. For 1 week of 2k15 play I haven't seen an off board kicked back out, ever. The gripe here is every single one, as long as its cpu controlled, has this extreme hustle thing going. I'm not really sure if it's a quickness boost or just the animation but one overlooked thing is that during a putback, the cpu receives a quickness / athletic boost that's why it is hard to time a good defensive stop to it. And we know that to stop the cpu, the defense has to be perfectly timed (others find this an issue too). Its ok if its Noah or Anthony Davis that does it but even the likes of Ostertag does this!

I don't really have a lot of issues with 2k15 as much as the previous iterations, and I think with a few fixing 2k15 could become the most authetic video game bball experience ever. I actually love and appreciate how they were able to integrate the triangle (and other freelance offenses) for the game, and I have waited for this for years. The putback issue breaks the game significantly though and this is the only thing that keeps me from starting MyLeague. So I hope Leftos and the team give this issue a good look as this doesn't give justice to the superb job they have done for the game.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby mortiis on Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:57 pm

i have questions about three things

im playing on hall of fame,and i was putting sliders on simulation ofcourse..

1.AI just don't shoot three points :S(im playing 9min qaurter) and they have attempted only 3-4 times for three in whole game...WTF(altough i have put sliders on 100 and now its more realistic..they shoot about 15-20 times per game)

2.AI just don't make fouls..i have changed it to 100 (shooting,blocking faul etc)..and still..last game against hornets,AI had made just 4 fouls???

3.AI shootins is unstoppable..they are scoring everything(even with 3 hands in their faces),but i have lowered that down with sliders...but still,those putbacks after offensive rebounds,even if they have 3 pairs of hands on their ball,they still made shots???..that is just unbelieveble and so much unrealistic...
i have put AI inside shots and contested shots on 36...and still they score too too much from the paint and specially put backs
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Re: First Impressions

Postby The X on Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:38 am

At first I was a little underwhelmed with 2K15 but now starting to really enjoy it. I think the initial doubts were due to me trying out some of the different game modes and the online aspects of the game before retiring into MyLeague.

MyCareer just doesn't hook me but I think that's a reflection on me rather than the mode. I prefer controlling a team rather than an individual. If I wanted to control myself I'll just go outside & shoot hoops. That being said have given it a go but I think I'll pass (not a fan of traditional 2K camera mode, plus I suck at it & don't think game plays anywhere near as well in this mode as in normal 5-on-5 gameplay, & hard to get hooked to arrogant/egotistic personality of MyPlayer).

I gave MyPark a go both online co-op with mate & against randoms. Whilst I didn't mind this mode & I think it's got some real potential for the online community I don't think I'll play it too much due to control responsive/lag issues that I experienced. Due to responsiveness issues I found it near impossible to stay in front of an offensive player & found myself getting well out of position regularly. But then again maybe I just suck at mode. Or perhaps it is also server issues (I still suck at mode though).

Load times for MyCareer & MyPark are long.

On the topic of server issues, my mate & I were disappointed (but not surprised due to not having a decent online experience with 2K since about 2K11 I think) by the lag/responsiveness issues in normal online game. I was running at about 90/35 wired so not an issue at my end. Hopefully it has or will be resolved as gameplay is great but it's not if you can't get that control responsiveness. Compared to the flawless online of FIFA I have had, it was disappointing to say the least.

Tried MyTeam as well, not really feeling it but maybe because I am comparing to the highly addictive FUT in FIFA 15.

Had a brief look at MyGM. Looks to have some depth to it but I don't think I have time nor patience to deal with all the dynamics of running a team since I deal with enough human dynamics IRL work as it is.

Only looked at customisation options of MyLeague but it's impressive to say the least. As is some of roster editing options re adding injuries. I'm so glad Leftos & the crew have allowed us to do things like CPU trade approvals to veto imbalanced/stupid CPU trades, as well as slightly reduce effect of things like morale/chemistry & sim difficulty (it's always been a pet peeve of mine that you can have a great sim team but win only 40% of sim games). A shame salary cap number couldn't be set (hard cap can be increased but I wanted to set cap number to reflect new TV deal so that max contracts go up as a proportion of cap etc) but maybe next time. Either way I'll be tinkering slightly to find the sweet spot.

Gameplay shines. Despite some of the other shortcomings, the X's and O's are very solid. Animations are improved (love the rebounding, improved collisons & "physics"). The star players play like stars. And they move like them too. The CPU AI just kills you if you lose concentration.

Presentation is better in parts but seems unfinished in others (no real half time report - all good since I skip anyways).

Not a fan of soundtrack but not a complaint, just an impression.

Menus are a pleasure. Speed of shuffling through teams is great.

I'd give game 8/10 at this stage due to the great gameplay & robustness of my mode of choice. I have downgraded the score due to online play issues. If 2K resolves those issues then I think this is a 9/10 game. Would I recommend this game? Yes to offline gamers, no if buying exclusively to play online (unless issues I mentioned have been fixed since last time I played against my mate).
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Re: First Impressions

Postby Kenny_C on Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:21 am

bigh0rt wrote:
Kenny_C wrote:Defense is too hard to play, and CPU is TOO GOOD, in some guys they literally never miss! too damn frustrating tbh!

It's supposed to be challenging and realistic. You shouldn't win all the time. Lower the difficulty until you get better.


Well it is challenging, but not THAT realistic when a guy like tony wroten scores 35 against me, and doesnt miss a single shot the whole game (even contested/tough shots). Also, didnt anyone notice that the CPU has the edge in rebounds?
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Re: First Impressions

Postby bigh0rt on Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:34 am

Kenny_C wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:
Kenny_C wrote:Defense is too hard to play, and CPU is TOO GOOD, in some guys they literally never miss! too damn frustrating tbh!

It's supposed to be challenging and realistic. You shouldn't win all the time. Lower the difficulty until you get better.


Well it is challenging, but not THAT realistic when a guy like tony wroten scores 35 against me, and doesnt miss a single shot the whole game (even contested/tough shots). Also, didnt anyone notice that the CPU has the edge in rebounds?

bigh0rt wrote:Lower the difficulty until you get better.
It sounds like you just stink at the game right now. Dropping it all the way to Rookie and then slowly working my way back up has worked wonders in improving how I play the game. It plays so different from 2K14 for PC, that the learning curve is substantial, and it's legitimately a more challenging game, which is a breath of fresh air. If Tony Wroten is dropping 35 against you, then you're playing on too difficult a level for your current skill level. It is not an error in the game, because it is not happening across the board with everyone.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby mortiis on Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:56 pm

how many fouls opposition team have in your games? (and how many minutes per quarter you guys play?)
my last game against Hornets...in 36minutes game...4 fouls :crazyeyes: and i even put foul sliders on 100 :?
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Re: First Impressions

Postby bigh0rt on Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:05 pm

mortiis wrote:how many fouls opposition team have in your games? (and how many minutes per quarter you guys play?)
my last game against Hornets...in 36minutes game...4 fouls :crazyeyes: and i even put foul sliders on 100 :?

You may have to toy with CPU Tendencies. Maybe raise Try for On Ball Steal, etc. May help.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby Rasheeed on Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:11 am

Dropping difficulties is definitely a must in this game! I'm trialing 3 teams so far on Pro....Phoenix, Portland and Charlotte and I pretty much stink at this game, but I'm not getting blown out. Loosing by less than ten points except for the occasional blow out. So far team records are Phx 0-5, Por 4-1, Cha 2-4. Portland is the only team I can win with at the moment.

Does anyone else have difficulty playing P&R offense? I play with Lillard, Dragic & Walker and Lillard is the only guy I can run P&R plays with....both Walker & Dragic just get bullied away.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby Phreak50 on Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:05 pm

Pick and Roll? You almost have to cut P&R out of your strategy because it makes the game too easy. The CPU AI just isn't smart enough to stay with the ballhandler behind a screen, especially when changing direction.

Then as soon as that player gets hot, the AI start doubling him anywhere in the half court when he has the ball, again making it even easier.

This is why the online being so laggy and broken completely ruins the game. You'd rather play against other humans but it's almost impossible.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby skoadam on Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:22 pm

did u guys notice our controls lagin in defense? Block button works with huge lag, if u dont press it 1-2sec before u want to block u will be late. They want to be like this or its just another bug?
Another thing is overactivity of moving analog in defense, if u make little move in a wrong way u will never back to your opponent. It looks like pad need sensitivity settings. I dont feel foot planting at all.
Game is very easy in one on one situation, i know some will love it, but this lvl of difficulty is to low. Look at points the paint, every game is to many of them. CPU kill the paint with 70 or more inside. Its time to start work on sliders.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby skoadam on Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:17 am

Ok myplayer mode, 2k not aaaagaaain, im using power forward position. Played for Orlando, substiotution and what? I play shooting guard position. How many years 2k :roll:
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Re: First Impressions

Postby isaacgeo on Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:25 pm

Also, anyone else experiencing problems with the release time? I seem to always realease it late. I mean you can't actually see the player rise to shoot and act accordingly, you just have to press the shooting button until the player's feet is off the ground. Pretty difficult for me. And free throws as well, getting "slighlty late" release by just pressing the shooting button :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes:
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Re: First Impressions

Postby centrifugal on Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:40 pm

Played a few quick games that I didn't finish, so far here's my opinion

POSITIVE:

- Graphics. The first time I played it, although I set it to high settings the game run on low settings and I thought it looked like crap. I relaunched the game, tried to play it maxed out, the game looked unbelievable but the FPS was bad. Turned AA down from 8/16 to 8/8, the game looks great, smooth gameplay during broadcast, stuttering during Cutscenes. Expecting that this will be solved one way or another, I have to say the game looks very slick. Well done 2k.

- Gameplay: So far so good, I don't see many differences to the core gameplay, but I already loved the gameplay so that's not a bad thing.

- Menus and presentation: Much better menus than previous 2k games.


NEGATIVE:

- Unresponsive controls. I don't know if it's a matter of vsync or something else, but the controls feel a little unresponsive sometimes. Granted, I play with the keyboard, but the keyboard was responsive in 2k14, now not so much.

- Audio: I'm getting rather tired of the same people narrating the game and the music is just getting worse every year. Real player voices are very bad lip-synched and I wonder if they were really recorded in a studio, to me it sounds like they were not.

- Minor issues... cheerleaders running the same dance routine everytime, I predict it's going to get old really soon. Studio where Shaq and the other guy introduce the game looks cheap and cheesy. Radeonpro not working, which i know it isn't 2k's fault, but still it's annoying.


So far my overall impressions are rather positive. I hope the game grows on me even more and I can't wait for mods
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Re: First Impressions

Postby centrifugal on Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:47 pm

A little addendum: I find the new playcalling method a step back. I'm playing with the keyboard and now during every offense I have to make use of 19 different keys in order to call a play and actually carry it out. I know keyboard gamers are not the majority anymore but seriously, have some mercy. It took me some time to master 15 keys last year, in order to play HOF/sim and now throwing in 4 more keys in the equation is like giving me the finger.

A piano has 88 keys and I'm affraid we're getting closer to that number annualy :p
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Re: First Impressions

Postby nextnba on Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:03 am

My first impression was that the game is horrible. It didn't really fix any of the annoyance I had with 2k14. The on-ball defense was still bad. You can pretty much drive pass CPU at will. Although, there are more contacts by the hoop, you can't really feel the contact. The players still don't have weight affect. C, PF don't feel any heavier than PG or SG. C, PF seems to run as fast as PG, SG. People keep saying the defense is improved but I could pretty much score at will, even playing on super star. Again, they didn't bother to adjust the schedule for games less than 82. I play the 54 games so I've been stuck with the same schedule since 2k13. The new menu is not easy to use. Something as simple as saving, loading roster is complicated. I tested “my league” just to see what it is like and it automatically saves it and I’m still trying to figure out how to delete it so that I can start a new one w updated roster. Also is that S. Kerr still commentating?

Positive differences that I noticed was the presentation, game intro is very nice and cool, the cheerleaders are hot. They spent more time on the cheerleaders than the players. lol. The graphic is improved and there are some new nice animations. I went for a dunk and a defender was in the way so he threw the ball at the hoop anyway. Also, I’m getting a few charge calls!!!! This is amazing as in 2k14, you never and I mean never get a charge call. The whole year I played the game, not one single charge call. Everything was a blocking foul even though I set “charge” to 100 in settings.

But after doing some adjustments, I got the game to play almost perfectly. I decreased the game speed to 48, which makes it harder to just drive pass CPU. Decrease in-side, mid range and 3’s to 45, more realistic shooting %. I set on-ball defense to 100. Increase foul settings to 75 for all. So far, I’m starting to really love it. Once we add mods, shadow, new sweat, new cfs, I think this game has the potential to be amazing.

Since 2k13, there is the playoff bug that annoys the hell out of me. The team with the best records doesn't get home court in the championship game. I’m worried that they didn't fix this!!!!
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Re: First Impressions

Postby skoadam on Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:24 am

nextnba wrote:My first impression was that the game is horrible. It didn't really fix any of the annoyance I had with 2k14. The on-ball defense was still bad. You can pretty much drive pass CPU at will. Although, there are more contacts by the hoop, you can't really feel the contact. The players still don't have weight affect. C, PF don't feel any heavier than PG or SG. C, PF seems to run as fast as PG, SG. People keep saying the defense is improved but I could pretty much score at will, even playing on super star. Again, they didn't bother to adjust the schedule for games less than 82. I play the 54 games so I've been stuck with the same schedule since 2k13. The new menu is not easy to use. Something as simple as saving, loading roster is complicated. I tested “my league” just to see what it is like and it automatically saves it and I’m still trying to figure out how to delete it so that I can start a new one w updated roster. Also is that S. Kerr still commentating?

Positive differences that I noticed was the presentation, game intro is very nice and cool, the cheerleaders are hot. They spent more time on the cheerleaders than the players. lol. The graphic is improved and there are some new nice animations. I went for a dunk and a defender was in the way so he threw the ball at the hoop anyway. Also, I’m getting a few charge calls!!!! This is amazing as in 2k14, you never and I mean never got a charge call. The whole year I played the game, not one single charge call. Everything was a blocking foul even though I set “charge” to 100 in settings.

But after doing some adjustments, I got the game to play almost perfectly. I decreased the game speed to 48, which makes it harder to just drive pass CPU. Decrease in-side, mid range and 3’s to 45, more realistic shooting %. I set on-ball defense to 100. Increase foul settings to 75 for all. So far, I’m starting to really love it. Once we add mods, shadow, new sweet, new cfs, I think this game has the potential to be amazing.

Since 2k13, there is the playoff bug hat annoys the hell out of me. The team with the best records doesn’t get home court in the championship game. I’m worried that they didn’t fix this!!!!

Game speed not affect players speed, so u are wrong. If i will find some time i will release sim sliders.
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