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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby slimm44 on Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:01 am

sticky-fingers wrote:specially when part of your mods use the works of others (and not mine i hope or you dont read credits)..



Please explain this part.
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What makes this mod “sim”? Here are a few of the features that set this project apart from all others:

- Every art file (jerseys, arenas, cyberfaces, accessories, courts, dornas (advertisement at half court), etc is realistic and none will crash game play
- There is no missing art file in the entire project

Every player in every roster has:
- Accurate statistical ratings and tendencies to work with 2k's simulation engine while still providing realistic game play
- Realistic ratings and tendencies that affect game play but not the simulation engine ie dribbling, athletic ratings, post tendencies, etc.
- Realistic physical attributes that decrease after major injuries or as the player gets older
- Accurate play types
- Accurate contracts

- Accurately updated Coaching profiles and playbooks

- Draft classes that have realistic player information for every player

- A few slider sets designed to be a base for realistic game play
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby sticky-fingers on Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:06 am

monzki - cfs guru
* Maravich - cfs guru
* bighort - jerseys guru
* Pepis21 - current & retro jerseys / retro courts
* PatTheHead - mycareer mode, always ready to help
* retroman - current & retro courts
* utp1985 - current & retro jerseys / retro courts

Are they paid too ?
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby slimm44 on Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:26 am

sticky-fingers wrote:monzki - cfs guru
* Maravich - cfs guru
* bighort - jerseys guru
* Pepis21 - current & retro jerseys / retro courts
* PatTheHead - mycareer mode, always ready to help
* retroman - current & retro courts
* utp1985 - current & retro jerseys / retro courts

Are they paid too ?


lol

Sticky-Fingers, I've put thousands of hours into 2k13 and 2k14 and I haven't received a penny. Sko has probably "made" 50 bucks over the years.

"Are they paid too?"

lololol

That being said, your post indicated we took work from other mods (I'm assuming you meant without permission). Way to change the subject.

:twisted: (That's the closest emoticon I could find to a troll)
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1999/2000 1998/1999 1997/1998 1996/1997 1995/1996 1994/1995 1993/1994 1992/1993 1991/1992 1990/1991
1989/1990 1988/1989 1987/1988 1986/1987 1985/1986 1984/1985 1969/1970 1961/1962


What makes this mod “sim”? Here are a few of the features that set this project apart from all others:

- Every art file (jerseys, arenas, cyberfaces, accessories, courts, dornas (advertisement at half court), etc is realistic and none will crash game play
- There is no missing art file in the entire project

Every player in every roster has:
- Accurate statistical ratings and tendencies to work with 2k's simulation engine while still providing realistic game play
- Realistic ratings and tendencies that affect game play but not the simulation engine ie dribbling, athletic ratings, post tendencies, etc.
- Realistic physical attributes that decrease after major injuries or as the player gets older
- Accurate play types
- Accurate contracts

- Accurately updated Coaching profiles and playbooks

- Draft classes that have realistic player information for every player

- A few slider sets designed to be a base for realistic game play
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby skoadam on Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:48 am

Maravich, you lazy son of Spain, can you please send me your bank account? Pepis you the lazyiest modder ever, please send me your bank account too :) Pat you misterious son of Austria i need your bank account right now. Monzki you crazy best modding guitarist i want to donate for your thousands of cfs. Give me your price guys...ofc i was joking, i dont want to dissrespect you guys.
Slimm, problem is not about our thousands of hours in front of excell/redmc/photoshop, people simply dont understand that you are able to find rly good guys on NLSC and talk with them thousands of hours on fb like with best friends, not only about modding, basketball but about life....im more than sure all of them dont care about credits on first page - because i know these guys.
Do you rly think these guys wait for $? Rly sticky? Man that was weak.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE 14TH JULY!

Postby MadbaLL on Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:29 pm

skoadam wrote:
MadbaLL wrote:anyone alive here since july 14th? :P

well my friend...you are still alive, me, slimm, maravich... :wink:


great to see you all well and alive ;)

and great to see this mod rollin' with a new update :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby sticky-fingers on Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:54 pm

skoadam wrote:Maravich, you lazy son of Spain, can you please send me your bank account? Pepis you the lazyiest modder ever, please send me your bank account too :) Pat you misterious son of Austria i need your bank account right now. Monzki you crazy best modding guitarist i want to donate for your thousands of cfs. Give me your price guys...ofc i was joking, i dont want to dissrespect you guys.
Slimm, problem is not about our thousands of hours in front of excell/redmc/photoshop, people simply dont understand that you are able to find rly good guys on NLSC and talk with them thousands of hours on fb like with best friends, not only about modding, basketball but about life....im more than sure all of them dont care about credits on first page - because i know these guys.
Do you rly think these guys wait for $? Rly sticky? Man that was weak.

Regardless of you know them, my opinion is that releasing first for patreon supporters is upsetting, because this is not your entire work, because it's bordeline with NLSC's rules, because it's a lack of respect to guys who already donate etc...
So, weak, yes, but from your side.
PS : dont ever include my work on your mod.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby skoadam on Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:17 am

sticky-fingers wrote:
skoadam wrote:Maravich, you lazy son of Spain, can you please send me your bank account? Pepis you the lazyiest modder ever, please send me your bank account too :) Pat you misterious son of Austria i need your bank account right now. Monzki you crazy best modding guitarist i want to donate for your thousands of cfs. Give me your price guys...ofc i was joking, i dont want to dissrespect you guys.
Slimm, problem is not about our thousands of hours in front of excell/redmc/photoshop, people simply dont understand that you are able to find rly good guys on NLSC and talk with them thousands of hours on fb like with best friends, not only about modding, basketball but about life....im more than sure all of them dont care about credits on first page - because i know these guys.
Do you rly think these guys wait for $? Rly sticky? Man that was weak.

Regardless of you know them, my opinion is that releasing first for patreon supporters is upsetting, because this is not your entire work, because it's bordeline with NLSC's rules, because it's a lack of respect to guys who already donate etc...
So, weak, yes, but from your side.
PS : dont ever include my work on your mod.

This is just your opinion. Most important for me is what Andrew is thinking about this. Hope he will post soon. If its not against rules i want to ask Andrew about removing your last posts from URB thread.
I wont include your work, no worries. (Y)
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby sticky-fingers on Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:36 am

I dont download your (or other) mod at each release, but what's really annoyed me is the mindset of the process.
Hope you'll change your mind about it, but yeah, just my opinion on an internet forum about a mod for an old game.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby seed39 on Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:28 pm

is it update again? thx for ur work!
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby Lucho_So72 on Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:06 pm

I have the mod installed but I am missing some fields such as the Orlando or the rockets. I reinstalled the file of the courts again but they still appear black, some solution?
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby Andrew on Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:08 pm

Sorry for the delay in responding, fellas. It's been a hectic week with some family matters, work, and travel. I've been able to check in and catch up on some conversations, but I put a pin in a few things to come back to later when I had the chance to reply in-depth, and this is one of them. Anyway, I'm here now, appreciate your patience.

I definitely think tip jars and Patreon are preferable to ad links. They're safer, and more importantly, voluntary. Also, they (theoretically) allow for modders to make a little more through donations, as ad links don't provide much money for the hassle they can cause. So yeah, I think tip jars and Patreon are the way to go.

However, it gets trickier when you're releasing stuff via Patreon, even if it is only a limited time Patreon exclusive/early access. Technically it's removing the "voluntary" part and putting mods behind a paywall, which technically is charging for them, and that would be against the rules. To conform with the rules about not charging for mods, Patreon would have to be a voluntary way of supporting modders, not a way of distributing mods; even if they are being made public later on.

With that being said, there are some things to consider here, including the intended concept of rewarding Patreon backers with special perks. Giving Patrons direct, ad-free and/or high speed links while also making a public release with ads/slower public download speed is something people have done, and that would conform to the "no charging for mods" rule. The same goes for offering premium support for Patrons, because it would be a service on top of the freely available download. It'd be giving people who offer their financial support some added benefit and thanks for doing so, and would be compensation for going above and beyond in post-release support of free content (or special hosting to distribute it more efficiently).

In theory, an early access release could count as such a perk, though it raises some issues. To name a few: how long is an appropriate period of exclusivity, is it going to be something that people tier in their Patreon rewards (and are we going to allow that), and how are these conditions going to be monitored or enforced? On top of the legal issues concerning charging for mods, the inevitable headaches and arguments are the major reason we don't. After all, if there are disputes here in the Forum, then we're naturally going to be expected to arbitrate, and apparently do so for free. There's a reason eBay, PayPal, and Patreon charge service fees for the use of their platforms and facilities.

There's stuff we're going to have to work out as a community as far as what's fair and acceptable (and not going to get us into trouble), and while we're doing that, we're going to make sure we give latitude and not come down harshly on anyone who isn't deliberately/blatantly flaunting the rules regarding charging for mods. We have to figure out how our community's policies and philosophies regarding modding will work with the Patreon model, because early access does dance the line as it's putting a release behind a paywall (even if it's only temporary). At the same time, I see the argument for it, particularly if it's not going to be a long wait.

Bottom line, for now I would say that it's against the rules because it's technically putting mods behind a paywall, which is technically charging for mods. However, I'm not saying anyone is in trouble here, because it's something new that we have to work out as a community, specifically how we can make things work with the Patreon rewards model. Pending further discussion and development of rules and procedure though, I would say it at least goes against the spirit of the rule regarding not charging for mods (if not the letter as well), so right now it's not the way to go. Patreon and tip jars, yes; releases behind a paywall, no. However, I will have to start a discussion, probably via a global topic, so that we can work some things out as a community moving forward.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby skoadam on Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:24 am

Andrew, thx for your answer. I will comment your post and basicaly reaction from NLSC community with this.

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I demand to start discussion from this point or stop discussion forever. There was ZERO REACTION year ago, hope NLSC rules are equal for everyone or we should start conversation about NLSC half-gods?
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby chriscarr99 on Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:44 am

making something release early for people who donate (pay) seems definitely like your charging for the mod. charging for it early, yes but still
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby Andrew on Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:57 am

Thanks for the heads up, I'd actually forgotten Hawk did that. I only remembered him doing the premium support/direct download links without ads via Patreon. Honestly, it shouldn't have been allowed then, but it did happen and it has obviously has set a precedent. I still believe that moving forward it shouldn't be allowed, but fair's fair. He did it once, so you should be able to do it as well. It's still something to discuss as a community, but for the reasons I outlined, I believe our policy should be nothing behind a paywall at all ever. As I said we're not looking to drop the hammer anyway while we're working out new policy, so again, no harm no foul. It happened once so it's only fair you get the opportunity to do it for this release as well, so go ahead. (Y)

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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby skoadam on Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:05 am

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Hello URB Familly and Hawk, new 2020 is here! PLEASE RE-DOWNLOAD Current Roster + Jerseys + Courts + Portraits + CFs#1 + CFs#2 + CFs#3


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::: WHATS INSIDE :::

- new 2020 roster

- newest transactions update

- new 2019/2020 schedule

- updated all contracts/extensions

- updated all jerseys numbers

- updated height and weight for all active players

- lot of new cfs from facebook cfs modders

- updated courts ( credits Jumpman2k )

- updated jerseys ( but still waiting for more to come - i trust only one jersey modder - Pepis )



::: PREVIEWS :::

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::: WHATS NEXT :::

- 2020 Draft Class, 2020 Roster for 2K13, Retro Rosters update by slimm
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby Small Baller on Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:14 am

sticky-fingers wrote:I dont download your (or other) mod at each release, but what's really annoyed me is the mindset of the process.
Hope you'll change your mind about it, but yeah, just my opinion on an internet forum about a mod for an old game.


People Can never be satisfied lol
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby eustachy1 on Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:51 am

Nice Nice Nice ! perfect update TY ! :bowdown: :bowdown2: (Y) :applaud: :crazyeyes:
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby sticky-fingers on Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:28 am

Small Baller wrote:
sticky-fingers wrote:I dont download your (or other) mod at each release, but what's really annoyed me is the mindset of the process.
Hope you'll change your mind about it, but yeah, just my opinion on an internet forum about a mod for an old game.


People Can never be satisfied lol


Its not about being satisfied.
Nlsc is a community. This mod would perhaps never existed if guys before skoadam havent released tools, tutoriels, courts, jerseys etc...
Fortunately im not the only one to think its not the good way.
Remember also that they ask money for something they dont have copyrights (NBA), for some stuff they havent created themselves (but its barely ok cos they are "Friends" on Facebook...)
So After years of updates, Seeing that (tbh i missed hawks' post but hate it toi), again : what a shame.
I used to be around simracing communities years ago. Simbin was a modding team. They didnt ask money for their mods. They create their own studio, released their games.
I understand Andrew'statement, but i wont accept little sentence like yours small baller.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby Small Baller on Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:45 am

sticky-fingers wrote:
Small Baller wrote:
sticky-fingers wrote:I dont download your (or other) mod at each release, but what's really annoyed me is the mindset of the process.
Hope you'll change your mind about it, but yeah, just my opinion on an internet forum about a mod for an old game.


People Can never be satisfied lol


Its not about being satisfied.
Nlsc is a community. This mod would perhaps never existed if guys before skoadam havent released tools, tutoriels, courts, jerseys etc...
Fortunately im not the only one to think its not the good way.
Remember also that they ask money for something they dont have copyrights (NBA), for some stuff they havent created themselves (but its barely ok cos they are "Friends" on Facebook...)
So After years of updates, Seeing that (tbh i missed hawks' post but hate it toi), again : what a shame.
I used to be around simracing communities years ago. Simbin was a modding team. They didnt ask money for their mods. They create their own studio, released their games.
I understand Andrew'statement, but i wont accept little sentence like yours small baller.


I don’t expect you too accept it nor did I ask you too. All I’m saying is these people hours and months into the work. We all know here at the NLSC charging for work is unethical and goes against all that we stand for as a community. If the person is credited for there work what is the problem? This isn’t Facebook we don’t charge for mods here.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby eustachy1 on Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:45 am

sticky-fingers wrote:
Small Baller wrote:
sticky-fingers wrote:I dont download your (or other) mod at each release, but what's really annoyed me is the mindset of the process.
Hope you'll change your mind about it, but yeah, just my opinion on an internet forum about a mod for an old game.


People Can never be satisfied lol


Its not about being satisfied.
Nlsc is a community. This mod would perhaps never existed if guys before skoadam havent released tools, tutoriels, courts, jerseys etc...
Fortunately im not the only one to think its not the good way.
Remember also that they ask money for something they dont have copyrights (NBA), for some stuff they havent created themselves (but its barely ok cos they are "Friends" on Facebook...)
So After years of updates, Seeing that (tbh i missed hawks' post but hate it toi), again : what a shame.
I used to be around simracing communities years ago. Simbin was a modding team. They didnt ask money for their mods. They create their own studio, released their games.
I understand Andrew'statement, but i wont accept little sentence like yours small baller.

Bro go play 2k20 bye ! 2k14 + slimm skoadam and other guys<face,court, e.t.c> = best game on basketball history ! :applaud: :crazyeyes: :bowdown: :bowdown2: 2k with default slider,tendecy,rating, etc = totaly crap !
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby sticky-fingers on Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:15 pm

Not your bro, and i play 2K9 to 2K20, so shut up.
But yes, URB is a great mod, we at least agree on that.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby eustachy1 on Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:36 pm

buhahahaa what a kid :D bye bye bro :DD :lol: :lol:
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby Erchamion on Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:51 pm

sticky-fingers has a legit concern so your replies are piss poor and not welcome in my opinion.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby MadbaLL on Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:25 pm

ok, so "legit concern" is when URB is doing it, but no concern from the community when UBR does the same thing? :roll:

interesting lack of principles... (N)
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2020 Roster UPDATE! 23RD OCTOBER!

Postby sticky-fingers on Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:02 pm

perhaps you should read previous posts before posting that.
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