NCAA March Madness 2015-16 V2.5 MINOR UPDATE (1.10.16)

Season/Association roster with all teams is fully functional!!!

It was a GID issue, there was a clone of the 93 bulls that had been in the roster since I believe MM2k14 an assigned GID 562. This team was deleted in my MM2k15 roster, I cloned it form the other 93 bulls, changed GID to 562 and it worked. Also had to line by line go back through all the created teams and classic NBA and reassign GIDs based on the last working roster.

Something else interesting I found out team type doesn't matter as long as you have thirty teams in the roster with 0. You could have slots 0-21 all 3s and as long as there are 22 zeros in the bottom half of the roster it works. if you do not have 30 teams set to 0 in the roster it will not work. Also the aplhabetical order does not matter at all.

I need to assign jeseys, and order teams and divisions and I will upload.

Season/Association roster with all teams is fully functional!!!

It was a GID issue, there was a clone of the 93 bulls that had been in the roster since I believe MM2k14 an assigned GID 562. This team was deleted in my MM2k15 roster, I cloned it form the other 93 bulls, changed GID to 562 and it worked. Also had to line by line go back through all the created teams and classic NBA and reassign GIDs based on the last working roster.

Something else interesting I found out team type doesn't matter as long as you have thirty teams in the roster with 0. You could have slots 0-21 all 3s and as long as there are 22 zeros in the bottom half of the roster it works. if you do not have 30 teams set to 0 in the roster it will not work. Also the aplhabetical order does not matter at all.

I need to assign jeseys, and order teams and divisions and I will upload.

Check and make sure you don't experience crashing later in the Season/Association. That was the issue we had last year, and what ultimately led to all the slotting, GID, alphabetical, etc. We never had crashing at Team Select, but we would crash 1, 2, or 3 games into it, and always by the All-Star Break. Just wanna make sure you're not making more work for yourself later. I always ere (I think that's the word there) on the side of caution. Great work, though.

Season/Association roster with all teams is fully functional!!!

It was a GID issue, there was a clone of the 93 bulls that had been in the roster since I believe MM2k14 an assigned GID 562. This team was deleted in my MM2k15 roster, I cloned it form the other 93 bulls, changed GID to 562 and it worked. Also had to line by line go back through all the created teams and classic NBA and reassign GIDs based on the last working roster.

Something else interesting I found out team type doesn't matter as long as you have thirty teams in the roster with 0. You could have slots 0-21 all 3s and as long as there are 22 zeros in the bottom half of the roster it works. if you do not have 30 teams set to 0 in the roster it will not work. Also the aplhabetical order does not matter at all.

I need to assign jeseys, and order teams and divisions and I will upload.

Way to go droc !!!!!

Will you also be including big's menu's and jbg's update court files that he mentioned were not all in the first release in your next update ?

Season/Association roster with all teams is fully functional!!!

It was a GID issue, there was a clone of the 93 bulls that had been in the roster since I believe MM2k14 an assigned GID 562. This team was deleted in my MM2k15 roster, I cloned it form the other 93 bulls, changed GID to 562 and it worked. Also had to line by line go back through all the created teams and classic NBA and reassign GIDs based on the last working roster.

Something else interesting I found out team type doesn't matter as long as you have thirty teams in the roster with 0. You could have slots 0-21 all 3s and as long as there are 22 zeros in the bottom half of the roster it works. if you do not have 30 teams set to 0 in the roster it will not work. Also the aplhabetical order does not matter at all.

I need to assign jeseys, and order teams and divisions and I will upload.

Way to go droc !!!!!

Will you also be including big's menu's and jbg's update court files that he mentioned were not all in the first release in your next update ?

Ultimately everything from 2K14, with all improvements will be released. Silly to force people to download MM2K14 when this is a stand alone thing here. I've already re-sorted all the 2K14 files, and just need to get all of the new .iff files, re-bundle everything, and we should be able to have a big download for everyone to work off of, with a simple Update Link, in a similar fashion to UBR does.

Season/Association roster with all teams is fully functional!!!

It was a GID issue, there was a clone of the 93 bulls that had been in the roster since I believe MM2k14 an assigned GID 562. This team was deleted in my MM2k15 roster, I cloned it form the other 93 bulls, changed GID to 562 and it worked. Also had to line by line go back through all the created teams and classic NBA and reassign GIDs based on the last working roster.

Something else interesting I found out team type doesn't matter as long as you have thirty teams in the roster with 0. You could have slots 0-21 all 3s and as long as there are 22 zeros in the bottom half of the roster it works. if you do not have 30 teams set to 0 in the roster it will not work. Also the aplhabetical order does not matter at all.

I need to assign jeseys, and order teams and divisions and I will upload.

Way to go droc !!!!!

Will you also be including big's menu's and jbg's update court files that he mentioned were not all in the first release in your next update ?

Ultimately everything from 2K14, with all improvements will be released. Silly to force people to download MM2K14 when this is a stand alone thing here. I've already re-sorted all the 2K14 files, and just need to get all of the new .iff files, re-bundle everything, and we should be able to have a big download for everyone to work off of, with a simple Update Link, in a similar fashion to UBR does.

Thanks big, I knew at some point you were planning on putting everything together to download all in one like your original mm2k14 releases.

Check and make sure you don't experience crashing later in the Season/Association. That was the issue we had last year, and what ultimately led to all the slotting, GID, alphabetical, etc. We never had crashing at Team Select, but we would crash 1, 2, or 3 games into it, and always by the All-Star Break. Just wanna make sure you're not making more work for yourself later. I always ere (I think that's the word there) on the side of caution. Great work, though.

I have simulated multiple seasons and associations with this selecting 1 team and 30 teams and no crashes yet........however, I have not yet played an actual game. This is next. One thing that perturbs me is when you load this roster and go to roster from the home screen to edit players it crashes.

Here it is, let's play some games and cross our fingers.......

http://www.mediafire.com/download/dzywy ... C_beta.ROS

Check and make sure you don't experience crashing later in the Season/Association. That was the issue we had last year, and what ultimately led to all the slotting, GID, alphabetical, etc. We never had crashing at Team Select, but we would crash 1, 2, or 3 games into it, and always by the All-Star Break. Just wanna make sure you're not making more work for yourself later. I always ere (I think that's the word there) on the side of caution. Great work, though.

I have simulated multiple seasons and associations with this selecting 1 team and 30 teams and no crashes yet........however, I have not yet played an actual game. This is next. One thing that perturbs me is when you load this roster and go to roster from the home screen to edit players it crashes.

Here it is, let's play some games and cross our fingers.......

http://www.mediafire.com/download/dzywy ... C_beta.ROS

Tried changing a team in both assoc and season modes and the game crashes at the point I hit spacebar to accept that team.

Also suggestion for future releases: could you add (OKST) after Cowboys to the current team like with (wildcats etc) for Villanove/Arizona ? I mention this because I was trying to change to the current OKST team and was actually putting in the classic team without knowing it, because they both just list as cowboys.

Will keep trying to change teams to see if I can get it to work.

Update: was able to change teams in assoc mode when changing a "original" team. crashes every time I try to change an "added" team, (Hoyas is one of the teams crashing when being replaced so far). I changed using the same team trying to replace Hoyas (Pitt) with a different team in the same division with no problem. I even switched the Hoyas with VCU the slot in the division that worked but it still crashed when I tried to change to another team from the Hoyas.

This is being tried in-game btw.

This is because of the alphabetic divisions bug. To prove this, go to the Northwest division and sub Butler in the #3 spot and then the Cowboys in the #4 spot. It works because if you look at the division it is all in alphabetical order. When you import teams and they are not in alphabetical order it will typically crash. This is the same thing that happened in MM2k14. What I can do is reorder the roster so all divisions have teams in alphabetic order that way it will easier to see where to place teams.

EDIT: It does appear that whenever a team that I created is swapped out it crashes. I'll alphabetize the divisions and see if that is any help, if this is the only issue, I can live with having 5 teams out of 30 that I can't sub out.

I played a 30 team association, played 2 games then simmed to the all-star break, then played to more games, and simmed to playoffs.

NO CRASHES!

Is there a way to make it so the CPU doesn't adjust your rotations at the beginning of the season? Hate it when I spent all this time to get accurate rotations and see them all jacked up by the bonehead CPU.

Last edited by droc81yo on Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:03 am, edited 1 time in total.

This is because of the alphabetic divisions bug. To prove this, go to the Northwest division and sub Butler in the #3 spot and then the Cowboys in the #4 spot. It works because if you look at the division it is all in alphabetical order. When you import teams and they are not in alphabetical order it will typically crash. This is the same thing that happened in MM2k14. What I can do is reorder the roster so all divisions have teams in alphabetic order that way it will easier to see where to place teams.

I played a 30 team association, played 2 games then simmed to the all-star break, then played to more games, and simmed to playoffs.

NO CRASHES!

Is there a way to make it so the CPU doesn't adjust your rotations at the beginning of the season? Hate it when I spent all this time to get accurate rotations and see them all jacked up by the bonehead CPU.

I tried putting them alphabetically before trying to switch the team, but it crashes as soon as I try to accept the replacement team. Again, this is only happening sp far trying to replace "added teams" ( Hoyas & Mountaineers, so far} Not crashing when switching with "original teams".

If I don't change any teams, it works fine even with your setup not being in alphabetical order. I will reorder in-game all the divisions first before changing any teams, not just reorder the division I am trying to change and see how that works out.

The only way I know to not have the cpu change rotations is control all 30 teams at setup, not just select 1 team to use.

I will keep trying different things to see if the change teams ends up working.

I re-ordered all the division alphabetically. I tried to change the Hoyas (who were now in the first slot, not the last) again since they are giving me issues doing it and it crashed as soon as I hit the spacebar to accept the new team (Pitt).

It is crashing right at the point changing teams, not like before when we changed teams but it would crash when trying to advance to the next step.

Again, this is all being done in-game. I do not have red-mc.

Is there a way to make it so the CPU doesn't adjust your rotations at the beginning of the season? Hate it when I spent all this time to get accurate rotations and see them all jacked up by the bonehead CPU.

I believe this is hard coded into the game and cannot be changed, unfortunately.

I re-ordered all the division alphabetically. I tried to change the Hoyas (who were now in the first slot, not the last) again since they are giving me issues doing it and it crashed as soon as I hit the spacebar to accept the new team (Pitt).

It is crashing right at the point changing teams, not like before when we changed teams but it would crash when trying to advance to the next step.

Again, this is all being done in-game. I do not have red-mc.

I alphabetized the divisions in Red MC and it did not help. It seems as if teams that GIDs outside of the default NBA teams can't be swapped out without a crash. I had crashes trying to sub out Longhorns and Rams (VCU), but oddly enough the Badgers worked. It seems at this point there are 13 teams that can't be swapped out, so there are 17 teams that can be swapped out freely.

Did you try to switch any of the "new teams" like Cougars or Runnin Rebels to a default NBA GID team such as Blue Devils, Wildcats (UK), Bears?

I believe this is hard coded into the game and cannot be changed, unfortunately.

Well, looks like doing rotations in season before I start, can't stand when dudes that never play get PT.

reme, it appears you can swap in the new teams Rams (CSU), Cougars, Wolfpack, Runnin Rebels as long as you slide them into a slot being occupied by an NBA default GID team. This is what I think is happening: When you go to swap out a team that does not share one of the default NBA GIDs the game craps itself because you are trying to swap out a slot that is supposed to be occupied by one of 30 default NBA GIDs, but is not.

I really don't see a way around this. We would have to order it like MM2k14, then sub in however many teams we want to start a season, while maintaining alphabetical order. At this point if the user wants they are at liberty to freely switch 17 teams to their choosing. I just hate to swap out crappy teams that I have no intention of playing with/against in my season anyway.

If someone with RedMC wants to, all they have to is reorder the roster like MM2k14 (with all the default NBA GIDs in the 0-29 slots) and the rest of the teams in slots 34 and on. Make sure that 0 is set for 30 of the teams and it will work and should allow free swapping of teams.

I really don't see a way around this. We would have to order it like MM2k14, then sub in however many teams we want to start a season, while maintaining alphabetical order. At this point if the user wants they are at liberty to freely switch 17 teams to their choosing. I just hate to swap out crappy teams that I have no intention of playing with/against in my season anyway.

I don't know cause I've never really tried, but isn't it super easy to do this in-game, when starting a Season? Just swap the teams you want in for the default teams? I would think that just for searchability, having the teams alphabetized so that you can easily scroll and find the team you want to select with ease. Again, I'm operating under the assumption that swapping teams in-game to do a custom Season/Association is easy to do.

FYI, CBS Scoreboard is broken for me, latest version. No team colors. Intel HD 44oo @ 1366x768 Fox scoreboard logos dont even work it appears.

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Update: Fox scoreboard works fine with MM v4 lite, so it's probably logo naming. UGH! guess i'll have to use 2k default

I really don't see a way around this. We would have to order it like MM2k14, then sub in however many teams we want to start a season, while maintaining alphabetical order. At this point if the user wants they are at liberty to freely switch 17 teams to their choosing. I just hate to swap out crappy teams that I have no intention of playing with/against in my season anyway.

I don't know cause I've never really tried, but isn't it super easy to do this in-game, when starting a Season? Just swap the teams you want in for the default teams? I would think that just for searchability, having the teams alphabetized so that you can easily scroll and find the team you want to select with ease. Again, I'm operating under the assumption that swapping teams in-game to do a custom Season/Association is easy to do.

That is how I am doing it, in-game. I do not have red mc so everything I do is in game. changing the teams is easy yes, but it is crashing when trying to change from one of the added teams.

I really don't see a way around this. We would have to order it like MM2k14, then sub in however many teams we want to start a season, while maintaining alphabetical order. At this point if the user wants they are at liberty to freely switch 17 teams to their choosing. I just hate to swap out crappy teams that I have no intention of playing with/against in my season anyway.

I don't know cause I've never really tried, but isn't it super easy to do this in-game, when starting a Season? Just swap the teams you want in for the default teams? I would think that just for searchability, having the teams alphabetized so that you can easily scroll and find the team you want to select with ease. Again, I'm operating under the assumption that swapping teams in-game to do a custom Season/Association is easy to do.

That is how I am doing it, in-game. I do not have red mc so everything I do is in game. changing the teams is easy yes, but it is crashing when trying to change from one of the added teams.

That's why I think the ultimate thing to do is to alphabetize, use default GIDs on the first 30 teams, then Euro Teams GIDs, then Classic Teams GIDs on the remaining teams.

Is it possible to sub Euro and/or Classic Teams into Season/Association with the default roster? If so, it shouldn't be a problem.

I really don't see a way around this. We would have to order it like MM2k14, then sub in however many teams we want to start a season, while maintaining alphabetical order. At this point if the user wants they are at liberty to freely switch 17 teams to their choosing. I just hate to swap out crappy teams that I have no intention of playing with/against in my season anyway.

I don't know cause I've never really tried, but isn't it super easy to do this in-game, when starting a Season? Just swap the teams you want in for the default teams? I would think that just for searchability, having the teams alphabetized so that you can easily scroll and find the team you want to select with ease. Again, I'm operating under the assumption that swapping teams in-game to do a custom Season/Association is easy to do.

That is how I am doing it, in-game. I do not have red mc so everything I do is in game. changing the teams is easy yes, but it is crashing when trying to change from one of the added teams.

That's why I think the ultimate thing to do is to alphabetize, use default GIDs on the first 30 teams, then Euro Teams GIDs, then Classic Teams GIDs on the remaining teams.

Is it possible to sub Euro and/or Classic Teams into Season/Association with the default roster? If so, it shouldn't be a problem.

I'll give you an answer shortly about that. I will attempt just that

I really don't see a way around this. We would have to order it like MM2k14, then sub in however many teams we want to start a season, while maintaining alphabetical order. At this point if the user wants they are at liberty to freely switch 17 teams to their choosing. I just hate to swap out crappy teams that I have no intention of playing with/against in my season anyway.

I don't know cause I've never really tried, but isn't it super easy to do this in-game, when starting a Season? Just swap the teams you want in for the default teams? I would think that just for searchability, having the teams alphabetized so that you can easily scroll and find the team you want to select with ease. Again, I'm operating under the assumption that swapping teams in-game to do a custom Season/Association is easy to do.

That is how I am doing it, in-game. I do not have red mc so everything I do is in game. changing the teams is easy yes, but it is crashing when trying to change from one of the added teams.

That's why I think the ultimate thing to do is to alphabetize, use default GIDs on the first 30 teams, then Euro Teams GIDs, then Classic Teams GIDs on the remaining teams.

Is it possible to sub Euro and/or Classic Teams into Season/Association with the default roster? If so, it shouldn't be a problem.

I'll give you an answer shortly about that. I will attempt just that

Update: the answer is yes and no and I may have found the problem and the solution trying this.

I could swap NBA with classic teams in season mode no problem. The euro teams are not an option to add as they don't show in the list of teams to swap, so it is not possible to change to a euro team in season mode.

That may be the problem, any NCAA teams using euro id's may be causing the crash. the only teams that were available to switch with the default nba were classic nba teams.

I just did the same in the default nba assoc mode no problem changing teams. again, the euro teams are not an option to add to the assoc, only classic teams.

I have euro courts that I had downloaded before and they all seem to have id's in the 70's, if that will help.

There are 14 euro teams that start after the wizards and end when the classic teams start with the 76's, if you scroll in-game to select a quick game team.

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I really don't see a way around this. We would have to order it like MM2k14, then sub in however many teams we want to start a season, while maintaining alphabetical order. At this point if the user wants they are at liberty to freely switch 17 teams to their choosing. I just hate to swap out crappy teams that I have no intention of playing with/against in my season anyway.

I don't know cause I've never really tried, but isn't it super easy to do this in-game, when starting a Season? Just swap the teams you want in for the default teams? I would think that just for searchability, having the teams alphabetized so that you can easily scroll and find the team you want to select with ease. Again, I'm operating under the assumption that swapping teams in-game to do a custom Season/Association is easy to do.

That is how I am doing it, in-game. I do not have red mc so everything I do is in game. changing the teams is easy yes, but it is crashing when trying to change from one of the added teams.

That's why I think the ultimate thing to do is to alphabetize, use default GIDs on the first 30 teams, then Euro Teams GIDs, then Classic Teams GIDs on the remaining teams.

Is it possible to sub Euro and/or Classic Teams into Season/Association with the default roster? If so, it shouldn't be a problem.

I'll give you an answer shortly about that. I will attempt just that

Update: the answer is yes and no and I may have found the problem and the solution trying this.

I could swap NBA with classic teams in season mode no problem. The euro teams are not an option to add as they don't show in the list of teams to swap, so it is not possible to change to a euro team in season mode.

That may be the problem, any NCAA teams using euro id's may be causing the crash. the only teams that were available to switch with the default nba were classic nba teams.

I thought this was just a team type number issue. If you wanted to used them in a season you just changed the team type to a 3 other than... 23 or 27 i think? then you could swap them in.

Last edited by Bobs_Road on Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:56 am, edited 1 time in total.

The ease of search would not be possible unless the teams were re-alphabetized by team(not city) name and assigned NBA default GIDs to slots 0-29. This would mean swapping GIDs with many teams. (as well as the jersey tab for the changed teams). This would be a large undertaking with opportunities for error.

An easy way would be to put the teams in the same order as in MM2K14, the slots 0-29 just like MM2K14, then the remaining slots (After the all star teams) alphabetized by team name. As you swap out teams you will get more and more out of order teams, as the teams being swapped out will now appear in list of searchable teams.

Personally, I think it is a pain in the butt to swap out teams that will.be randomly placed in divisions with other teams and getting divisions the way you want them all.while trying to keep some semblance of alphabetical order.

It would open up a fully customizable option with reference to teams, however I know I want the good teams in the game to play against, and if a team I wanted to play with wasn't in I would just swap them out with an NBA default team. Also, there is no guarantee that there is not a limit set on the number of teams you can swap out Before the game crashes (it us only meant to swap the NBA default GIDs between divisions, not 22 new GIDs There are 52 teams, so regardless you are stuck with 8 teams no matter how you switch up.

The ease of search would not be possible unless the teams were re-alphabetized by team(not city) name and assigned NBA default GIDs to slots 0-29. This would mean swapping GIDs with many teams. (as well as the jersey tab for the changed teams). This would be a large undertaking with opportunities for error.

An easy way would be to put the teams in the same order as in MM2K14, the slots 0-29 just like MM2K14, then the remaining slots (After the all star teams) alphabetized by team name. As you swap out teams you will get more and more out of order teams, as the teams being swapped out will now appear in list of searchable teams.

Personally, I think it is a pain in the butt to swap out teams that will.be randomly placed in divisions with other teams and getting divisions the way you want them all.while trying to keep some semblance of alphabetical order.

It would open up a fully customizable option with reference to teams, however I know I want the good teams in the game to play against, and if a team I wanted to play with wasn't in I would just swap them out with an NBA default team. Also, there is no guarantee that there is not a limit set on the number of teams you can swap out Before the game crashes (it us only meant to swap the NBA default GIDs between divisions, not 22 new GIDs There are 52 teams, so regardless you are stuck with 8 teams no matter how you switch up.

do the default nba teams have the same id as the same team default classic team, ? the first change I made was from the nba 76's to one of the classic 76's to keep it alphabetically in the division and it worked fine. I assume they would be different id's, so using the default classic id's for the other 22 should work.
Not a modder, so just guessing.

I'm more a CRASH test dummy lol

No, the current team GIDs and classic team GIDs are different. GIDs are unique.