NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

[Mr Tr0llz]

Do you use playbooks?
It looks like your offensive plays are 10sec actions.

was that question to me? If so then I don't know. I let the cpu call my plays.

[skoadam]

Do you use playbooks?
It looks like your offensive plays are 10sec actions.

was that question to me? If so then I don't know. I let the cpu call my plays.

yes, but do u use them, do you play long plays or you shot after two passes or dribling. What i want to say, i never used this sliders, but if i see so much FGA it can only be two things, sliders let u so many open shots or your plays are real short- both things mean arcade playing.

[EccentricMeat]

Mr Tr0llz: Those stats look a lot better. However, you're using a LOT of different roster edits than what these sliders were made for, so I'm not sure how your gameplay is. You can have perfect stats, but completely unrealistic/unenjoyable gameplay. So if all of those roster edits are still giving you solid gameplay and stats, then you're good to go.

skoadam: He had so many shots and such a high score because he was steal-spamming and getting WAY too many points off the fastbreak.

[Mr Tr0llz]

Do you use playbooks?
It looks like your offensive plays are 10sec actions.

was that question to me? If so then I don't know. I let the cpu call my plays.

yes, but do u use them, do you play long plays or you shot after two passes or dribling. What i want to say, i never used this sliders, but if i see so much FGA it can only be two things, sliders let u so many open shots or your plays are real short- both things mean arcade playing.

NO I don't call plays. What ever offense or defense my team is playing. I leave that in the hands of the cpu.

I pass it around. I play with player lock. I only control the PG on my team. If I don't have an open shot I pass it. Now if I am losing on the other hand I tend to over shoot 3PT just to try and catch up but other wise I only shoot 3PT if my guy is wide open.

[EccentricMeat]

Do you use playbooks?
It looks like your offensive plays are 10sec actions.

was that question to me? If so then I don't know. I let the cpu call my plays.

yes, but do u use them, do you play long plays or you shot after two passes or dribling. What i want to say, i never used this sliders, but if i see so much FGA it can only be two things, sliders let u so many open shots or your plays are real short- both things mean arcade playing.

NO I don't call plays. What ever offense or defense my team is playing. I leave that in the hands of the cpu.

I pass it around. I play with player lock. I only control the PG on my team. If I don't have an open shot I pass it. Now if I am losing on the other hand I tend to over shoot 3PT just to try and catch up but other wise I only shoot 3PT if my guy is wide open.

So wait.. You have all of those different roster edits AND you play player lock? Neither of these factors were tested when creating these sliders, so I'm honestly surprised that you're getting acceptable results!

[skoadam]

Mr Tr0llz: Those stats look a lot better. However, you're using a LOT of different roster edits than what these sliders were made for, so I'm not sure how your gameplay is. You can have perfect stats, but completely unrealistic/unenjoyable gameplay. So if all of those roster edits are still giving you solid gameplay and stats, then you're good to go.

skoadam: He had so many shots and such a high score because he was steal-spamming and getting WAY too many points off the fastbreak.

ah now i see, yeah steal spamming, but hey u should lower steal slider maybe, after two months i discover what for is right analog in defense, not that i dont know but i always defense using run and steal button. I dont want to request about lowering steal slider, but sliders shoud not allow u to steal so many times even when u spamming, the best way is to rise up reaching foul, we should learn defense with using positioning in defense, great right analog possibilities and forsee to steal pass. Like i said im not using your sliders right now, i will try(maybe u respond my pm), so its just my suggestions.

[Mr Tr0llz]

I am convinced the high shot issue is an all star issue. I have played several games with a combo of these with xianpauL sliders on HOF which produced damn good results and I never got 90 shots when scoring 107-110 which is the highest I went with those sliders.

If I am going to continue with these it looks like I am going to have to play 11 minute quarters instead of 12 because the defense on all star isn't good enough to make me use as much of the shot clock that I make them use and it's because of that i am able to get such high FGA vs the cpu.

[skoadam]

If u score 107-110 on HOF(this level is unplayable from 2k10 with any sliders, cpu cheating) with lower FGA maybe u got high %

[EccentricMeat]

NEW UPDATE!

(copied from OS)
In this update, I focused on fine-tuning the USER blocks and the CPU offensive tendencies.

I just finished my latest game with these updates (Cleveland [me] vs. LA Clippers), and it was the most entertaining game I've played yet! The first half was back and forth, but I pulled away in the third quarter and the first half of the fourth. However, I pulled my starters with 5:30 left in the fourth while I was up 84-68. The next 3 minutes were ALL LA, as they came storming back to make the score 84-81.

At this point, I called a timeout and put my starters back out there. On the next possession, the Clippers passed it to Griffin in the low post (who had been dominating me all quarter), so I quickly tried to double-team him. He spins out of the post to drive to the basket and my two defenders collapse on him. I thought I made a good decision, but Crawford was left wide open for 3 and Griffin kicked it out to him. My defense couldn't rotate over in time, and Crawford tied it up.

My next offensive possession I drained a three after the defense collapsed on a driving Kyrie Irving and I kicked it out to the open shooter, 87-84. However, my defense just had no answer for the low-post-and-kick-out offense of the Clippers in the 4th, as this time Billups received the kick-out pass and drained an open 3, 87-87. Feeling a little desperate, I decided to let Kyrie handle this himself. He drives in, goes up for the layup, but gets EMPHATICALLY blocked by Deandre Jordan and Eric Bledsoe pulls away on the fastbreak, 87-89 with only 10 seconds left.

I need a score, so of course I go back to Kyrie Irving. All game I've been able to blow past Bledsoe and/or Billups and get to the basket (Paul left in free agency), but on this final possession they had me locked down. I was forced to throw up a well-guarded step-back jumper from 25 feet at the buzzer, it hits the rim, then the backboard, then the rim again... and then rolls out. I lose, 87-89. By far the best game I've played all year. WOW!

Enjoy this one

[EccentricMeat]

skoadam: Nah, the steal sliders aren't a problem. It's either that he's VERY good at stealing, or a combination of the fact that he's not playing with the roster these sliders were made for and he's using Player Lock. As for your PM, I never even noticed! I'm new to using this website, so I don't really know where anything is quite yet. I'm looking at your PM now, though!

Mr Tr0llz: The high shot attempts are not an All-Star issue, it's an issue with your roster, player lock, and your playing style. You can alter your play style if you want, but I would recommend using a slider set made for the rosters you're using as there are just far too many variables to be accounted for when miss-matching a custom roster and slider set.

EDIT: Alright skoadam, here's my settings file. I prefer not to add it to the OP so that people can keep their own personal settings and just input the sliders themselves.

Settings.rar

[Mr Tr0llz]

skoadam: Nah, the steal sliders aren't a problem. It's either that he's VERY good at stealing, or a combination of the fact that he's not playing with the roster these sliders were made for and he's using Player Lock. As for your PM, I never even noticed! I'm new to using this website, so I don't really know where anything is quite yet. I'm looking at your PM now, though!

Mr Tr0llz: The high shot attempts are not an All-Star issue, it's an issue with your roster, player lock, and your playing style. You can alter your play style if you want, but I would recommend using a slider set made for the rosters you're using as there are just far too many variables to be accounted for when miss-matching a custom roster and slider set.

EDIT: Alright skoadam, here's my settings file. I prefer not to add it to the OP so that people can keep their own personal settings and just input the sliders themselves.

Settings.rar

I don't really understand what difference player tendency on different roster has anything to do with sliders as I was under the impression that it was the sliders that defined how good or bad the players play in the first place while tendency's only defined on the style of play.

here is the latest game I played trying 11 min quarters this one I didn't get enough shots lol.
There is a steal issue with your sliders. This game I did not spam the steal button. There is an issue if the cpu is standing still and you have a good player you can go up behind them and bump them from kind of a diagonal position and probably about 7 out of 10 times as soon as you bump them they will drop the ball. Jeremy Lynn or how however you spell his name for the Houston Rockets is just a stealing machine! Another easy way of stealing without spamming is if you time it right as soon as they start to move you can run sideways in front of them and press the steal button and you can come away with steals. I think if you upped reach in foul it would be fine.



I am going to try your updated sliders with 12 min quarters and see how it goes.

[Mr Tr0llz]

Actually I think I will install the recommend roster and see if it changes anything.

It will be awhile before I am able to post score.

[levynagy]

Well, I must say this: I am surprised to hear you are surprised that player tendencies influence game sliders. Of course they do! It's all about finding the balance and matching both. That's why EccentricMeat has improved the game with his slider set where others (including myself) have failed although they made decent sliders but applied them to bad (aka not realistic) roster or viceversa. So my suggestion to you Mr Tr0llz is to follow the exact instructions of EccentricMeat and use the right roster file with his all-star sliders.

[skoadam]

Mr Tr0llz, ffs tendencies are most important in 2k13, u cant start thinking of accurate sliders with defaults 2k tendencies. 2k tendencies ruins this game completly.
If u try use one sliders with different tendencies its not gonna work

[Mr Tr0llz]

Well, I must say this: I am surprised to hear you are surprised that player tendencies influence game sliders. Of course they do! It's all about finding the balance and matching both. That's why EccentricMeat has improved the game with his slider set where others (including myself) have failed although they made decent sliders but applied them to bad (aka not realistic) roster or viceversa. So my suggestion to you Mr Tr0llz is to follow the exact instructions of EccentricMeat and use the right roster file with his all-star sliders.

Yes I will try the recommended roster. I am interested to see how much of a difference it makes. This is the first NBA 2k game i have played. until now I have never heard of slider sets being better with one roster over the other.

@skoadam
Is there any extra cyber faces I need to download with your roster? I ask because some rosters people talk about getting headless players.

[skoadam]

First of all i dont want u resign from Meds roster just because of sliders u want to use. I think Meds adds sliders to his roster, did u tried them?
Second, no there is no single headless in my roster, they talk because they dont download missing cfs pack from first page of my thread. If u use Meds roster u probably using different portrait file so u must change your portraits file to. Its all in my first post, all recommended files are there, just read with understand, good luck

[EccentricMeat]

skoadam: Nah, the steal sliders aren't a problem. It's either that he's VERY good at stealing, or a combination of the fact that he's not playing with the roster these sliders were made for and he's using Player Lock. As for your PM, I never even noticed! I'm new to using this website, so I don't really know where anything is quite yet. I'm looking at your PM now, though!

Mr Tr0llz: The high shot attempts are not an All-Star issue, it's an issue with your roster, player lock, and your playing style. You can alter your play style if you want, but I would recommend using a slider set made for the rosters you're using as there are just far too many variables to be accounted for when miss-matching a custom roster and slider set.

EDIT: Alright skoadam, here's my settings file. I prefer not to add it to the OP so that people can keep their own personal settings and just input the sliders themselves.

Settings.rar

I don't really understand what difference player tendency on different roster has anything to do with sliders as I was under the impression that it was the sliders that defined how good or bad the players play in the first place while tendency's only defined on the style of play.

here is the latest game I played trying 11 min quarters this one I didn't get enough shots lol.
There is a steal issue with your sliders. This game I did not spam the steal button. There is an issue if the cpu is standing still and you have a good player you can go up behind them and bump them from kind of a diagonal position and probably about 7 out of 10 times as soon as you bump them they will drop the ball. Jeremy Lynn or how however you spell his name for the Houston Rockets is just a stealing machine! Another easy way of stealing without spamming is if you time it right as soon as they start to move you can run sideways in front of them and press the steal button and you can come away with steals. I think if you upped reach in foul it would be fine.



I am going to try your updated sliders with 12 min quarters and see how it goes.

Those aren't problems with the steals sliders or the Reach In Foul amount, those are just collision issues. When going for legitimate steal attempts (pressing Steal while facing the ball), my sliders still make it VERY difficult to get steals consistently. If I increase Reach in Fouls, you won't be able to ever get any legitimate steals because it will always be a foul (even at the current setting I get a few too many fouls and not enough steals).

Your best bet to fix this problem (besides not abusing certain collision-caused steals) is to increase Ball Handling by a few clicks.

[skoadam]

Ok, im after first game with your sliders. Its a first one, and i always need 3games to be sure is it good or not.
I always use Miami in three games. In first i control Miami vs good team, this time i choose Indiana.
In the second match i choose some poor team and play against Miami.
In the third i choose good team and play against Miami cpu.
So, i like some things in your sliders, some not.

Good things:
-balanced points in the paint
-numbers of assists
-numbers of rebounds(but must say its easy to rebound)
-fg%
Bad things:
-its way too easy(lets say for now its because using Miami), im old guy i cant be so good
-to easy inside the paint, i feel like i can do everything and i do not use LBJ so much
-7 3PTA by cpu
-quite easy to steal/cpu mistake, im not spamming steal button type of guy
-i think i play whole quarter with starters and i saw 78 fatigue next to LBJ and DWade

i cant upload anything right now, because im in work and using poor mobile connection, but i will upload at home, team stats and boxscore
hope u can find some fix and u are ready for constructive criticism

[levynagy]

i think i play whole quarter with starters and i saw 78 fatigue next to LBJ and DWade

I know it wasn't addressed to me but let me reply to this first: you shouldn't play with your starters a full quarter! If they never get tired more than 78 it's indeed a bad thing. I usually change my whole lineup when they reach 80-85 and get them back on the court when they are recovered for at least 95. But all these are subjective and depend on each of us style of play. I also noticed the game gets easy after a few games (that's what I call the "2K13 curse", no matter what settings you use it never gets realistic like 2K11 was).

[skoadam]

i think i play whole quarter with starters and i saw 78 fatigue next to LBJ and DWade

I know it wasn't addressed to me but let me reply to this first: you shouldn't play with your starters a full quarter! If they never get tired more than 78 it's indeed a bad thing. I usually change my whole lineup when they reach 80-85 and get them back on the court when they are recovered for at least 95. But all these are subjective and depend on each of us style of play. I also noticed the game gets easy after a few games (that's what I call the "2K13 curse", no matter what settings you use it never gets realistic like 2K11 was).

when i want to check some sliders i check some things, one of them is fatigue. I think 78 is too much after whole 12min and only one full time.
It was my first game with these sliders

[levynagy]

Obviously we talk about 2 different things, skoadam. You say 78 is too much for a quarter. I say...it is normal. Normally if you would play with the same lineup for a whole game they should be at less than 60 in the 4th quarter and shoot less than 30% FG for the game. Unless this is Arcade gaming and not Simulation, and then I wasted my time talking 'cause I don't like when people play Simulation but expect Arcade game effects.

[EccentricMeat]

Ok, im after first game with your sliders. Its a first one, and i always need 3games to be sure is it good or not.
I always use Miami in three games. In first i control Miami vs good team, this time i choose Indiana.
In the second match i choose some poor team and play against Miami.
In the third i choose good team and play against Miami cpu.
So, i like some things in your sliders, some not.

Good things:
-balanced points in the paint
-numbers of assists
-numbers of rebounds(but must say its easy to rebound)
-fg%
Bad things:
-its way too easy(lets say for now its because using Miami), im old guy i cant be so good
-to easy inside the paint, i feel like i can do everything and i do not use LBJ so much
-7 3PTA by cpu
-quite easy to steal/cpu mistake, im not spamming steal button type of guy
-i think i play whole quarter with starters and i saw 78 fatigue next to LBJ and DWade

i cant upload anything right now, because im in work and using poor mobile connection, but i will upload at home, team stats and boxscore
hope u can find some fix and u are ready for constructive criticism

Man, I don't know how you guys are getting steals. I can use Chris Paul and try to swipe at Hasheem Thabeet, and I'll either miss or get a reach-in foul 9 out of 10 times! For fatigue, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Is 78 too low? Too high? I usually have to sub out my starters with 2 or 3 minutes left in the 1st quarter, so I feel that is realistic. The 3PT attempts are being worked on, so no worries.

Now, when you say it's "too easy" and "too easy in the paint", what exactly do you mean by that? I need details!

[skoadam]

Wait a minute u think when player got 85 he is ready to sit down? i read it right now. U play asso with progress fatigue? so u must sit down players just after the whistle. First, look at the minutes they should play. In the league often players plays 40minutes/game whole season, and u think they got 85 all the time, no they dont, that why NBA is very intensive league, thats why there is so many injuries, thats why players looks like robots. Please do not talk with me like im arcade players, im far away from that.

Man, I don't know how you guys are getting steals. I can use Chris Paul and try to swipe at Hasheem Thabeet, and I'll either miss or get a reach-in foul 9 out of 10 times! For fatigue, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Is 78 too low? Too high? I usually have to sub out my starters with 2 or 3 minutes left in the 1st quarter, so I feel that is realistic. The 3PT attempts are being worked on, so no worries.

Now, when you say it's "too easy" and "too easy in the paint", what exactly do you mean by that? I need details!

First of all i steal about 8 balls by my self, using right stick pressure and steal button from time to time, traping, or cut passing lanes. And its not bad, but after this cpu players makes bad passes, trying to alley in bad situations, but hey its not bad to and i even like it, its realistic, but its all to often.
78 after 1 full quarter almost without time out its to much in my opinion.
I finish second game, it was much better feel of playing, later i put some screens.

[EccentricMeat]

Wait a minute u think when player got 85 he is ready to sit down? i read it right now. U play asso with progress fatigue? so u must sit down players just after the whistle. First, look at the minutes they should play. In the league often players plays 40minutes/game whole season, and u think they got 85 all the time, no they dont, that why NBA is very intensive league, thats why there is so many injuries, thats why players looks like robots. Please do not talk with me like im arcade players, im far away from that.

Most top players play around 36 minutes per game, and the only players who average more than that are the players that a team has to depend 100% on in order to win. So, if a player is supposed to get 36 minutes a game, they should play roughly 9 minutes a quarter. At nine minutes a quarter, that player would come out of the game with 3 minutes left in the first. That's basically the system I stick to (depending on the situation of course). I don't even go in and look at what their fatigue number is. If they get down to half stamina on the timeout substitution screen (or the in-game substitution screen), then they are probably going to come out of the game.

[skoadam]

What im trying to say, are u sure that player after intense 9min of running should have -15% of his stamina?