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Re: Wayback Wednesday: The Jordan Challenge in NBA 2K11

Postby Andrew on Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:10 pm

February 6th, 2019: The Jordan Challenge in NBA 2K11

It recently occurred to me that while I've discussed Michael Jordan's presence in NBA 2K11 and ran a series of articles in which I went back and finished all the games in the Jordan Challenge, I've yet to post a retrospective dedicated solely to the mode. I've obviously discussed it in those previous features, but given how special the Jordan Challenge was, it's about time I rectify that. Besides, if responses to recent posts on our Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram are any indication, a lot of people are still quite interested in talking about NBA 2K11!

They have a good reason to. NBA 2K11 was a milestone release, and while the failure of NBA Elite 11 was a factor, the quality of 2K's game combined with the addition of MJ and the Jordan Challenge led to it not only being very warmly received, but also becoming the first game in the series to top five million units sold. As much as any other mode or feature, the Jordan Challenge represents the way 2K has focused on the finer details, and been willing to innovate over the years. Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: The Jordan Challenge in NBA 2K11

Postby tacitus kilgore on Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:21 pm

Andrew wrote:February 6th, 2019: The Jordan Challenge in NBA 2K11

It recently occurred to me that while I've discussed Michael Jordan's presence in NBA 2K11 and ran a series of articles in which I went back and finished all the games in the Jordan Challenge, I've yet to post a retrospective dedicated solely to the mode. I've obviously discussed it in those previous features, but given how special the Jordan Challenge was, it's about time I rectify that. Besides, if responses to recent posts on our Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram are any indication, a lot of people are still quite interested in talking about NBA 2K11!

They have a good reason to. NBA 2K11 was a milestone release, and while the failure of NBA Elite 11 was a factor, the quality of 2K's game combined with the addition of MJ and the Jordan Challenge led to it not only being very warmly received, but also becoming the first game in the series to top five million units sold. As much as any other mode or feature, the Jordan Challenge represents the way 2K has focused on the finer details, and been willing to innovate over the years. Let's take a look back...way back...

Great read, it's so strange to me how early this decade 2K weren't afraid that only "old heads" would appreciate it, clearly with 2K11 being a consistent pick as the best sports game ever, it's almost hard to believe we're playing 2K19 and count it as part of that same lineage.

No other sports game ever made me feel the weight of what I was accomplishing like the Jordan challenge did for me, it was a concept you would think looks good in commercials but is hollow when you play it, but it's not.
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: The Jordan Challenge in NBA 2K11

Postby Andrew on Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:26 am

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

The depth and the creativity of the mode were fantastic. If you grew up with that era, it was nostalgic. If you didn't, it was potentially educational. Perhaps with all the sneering at the opinions of "old heads" these days, it wouldn't go over as well, but I do miss having some kind of challenge mode that makes use of all the historical content. NBA's Greatest was obviously fantastic as well, especially with the way that they got the era-specific presentation to work.
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: The Jordan Challenge in NBA 2K11

Postby sticky-fingers on Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:50 am

Which was the hardest challenge for you ?
If i remember well, for me it was The Shrug. Hard to keep Drexler under 20, 6 3pt in first half and win the game.
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: The Jordan Challenge in NBA 2K11

Postby Andrew on Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:53 am

The Shrug was kind of tough when it came to keeping Drexler under 20. The hardest for me might've actually been Michael's Last Dance, trying to get four steals against Stockton and Hornacek.
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: The Jordan Challenge in NBA 2K11

Postby shinron15 on Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:04 am

Some interesting things about the Jordan Challenge also surround the cut content or mysterious removal of players. If you read the story about the 1991 NBA Finals, the story mentions how Jordan got around A.C. Green to lay it in, but A.C. Green is not present on the 1991 Lakers roster. Another oddity is Bill Walton being absent from the 1986 Celtics roster, since he's been in frequent 2K appearances.

As for the cut content, there are unused Cyberfaces for Greg Ostertag, Eric Snow, and Kevin Duckworth found within the game's files (with black arms). Duckworth was actually seen in an early screenshot of the game before being removed in the final version, which would've meant that the 1992 Trail Blazers would've been the only non-Bulls classic team to feature more than six real players.
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: The Jordan Challenge in NBA 2K11

Postby Andrew on Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:09 am

Great info! Definitely worth noting. Some of those players have since been licensed, but they're prominent omissions in the Jordan Challenge.
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: NBA Inside Drive 2000 Retrospective

Postby Andrew on Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:13 pm

February 13th, 2019: NBA Inside Drive 2000 Retrospective

I have an unusual history with NBA Inside Drive 2000. Following a hard drive crash in early 2000, my family finally ditched our venerable 486 DX2 66, upgrading to a much better system: a Pentium III! At the time, it meant that I could play most of the latest games, including NBA Live 2000. Even though I was enjoying NBA Live 2000 (and still hold it in high esteem), I was eager to pick up NBA Inside Drive 2000 when I saw it at my local store. Being a teenage gamer obsessed with basketball, I was keen to get my hands on any virtual hoops title that I could. NBA Live was the premier brand at the time, but other games usually had something appealing to offer.

Unfortunately, NBA Inside Drive 2000 just didn't click with me, and within a week, I exchanged it for GTA 2. I remember making up a story about how I couldn't get it to run even though I checked the system requirements first, which the staff believed (I'd feel guiltier about it if they hadn't ripped me off with a video card, and then made up a story about why it wasn't working properly rather than help me). Ironically, GTA 2 is my least favourite game in the Grand Theft Auto series, but that's another story. I've since picked up a copy of NBA Inside Drive 2000 off eBay, so what is it that I didn't like, and do I still feel the same way now? Let's take a look back...way back...
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