Wayback Wednesday: NBA Returns Over Before They Began (Part 2)

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Re: Wayback Wednesday: NBA 2K10 PC Disc Woes

Postby Andrew on Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:09 pm

Good looking out on Shaq's tattoo! That'd definitely be a fun subject for Wayback Wednesday. I'll do some research!

The PC version of NBA 2K10 is becoming absurdly difficult and expensive to get a hold of, considering that it wasn't a rare release. As I said, the price is definitely being jacked up given Kobe's tragic death. Steam keys seem impossible to find these days; I think I missed the boat on that one. Interesting to hear that there were some issues with other versions/copies. Like I said, this has been pretty unique to NBA 2K10 PC.
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Go-To Moves in NBA Live 08

Postby Andrew on Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:37 pm

Wayback Wednesday: Go-To Moves in NBA Live 08

These days, unique signature animations and a variety of animation packages are staple features of sim basketball games. We're a long way from the days of every player having the same shooting form, the same dribbling style, and in some rare games, a handful of signature moves for star players. That's not to say that every player in the game has unique mo-capped animations, but the most distinctive styles are usually accounted for. Of course, there were some intermediate steps between everyone using the same animations, and the signature styles of today.

NBA Live began taking steps towards player differentiation by including a second jumpshot animation intended for big men, as well as slower and simpler dribbling moves for weaker ballhandlers. The next step was Freestyle Superstars. Both of these forms of player differentiation were based on qualifying ratings, which sometimes made it difficult to assign players appropriate attributes and still have the desired movesets and animations. After signature jumpshot styles were added in NBA Live 06 for Xbox 360 and expanded upon in NBA Live 07, NBA Live 08 introduced Go-To Moves. Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Single Season Players Who Were Starters

Postby Andrew on Wed May 04, 2022 6:55 pm

Wayback Wednesday: Single Season Players Who Were Starters

On top of the players that have just one appearance in the NBA - "cups of coffee", as Basketball Reference labels them - there are many players who spent just a single season in the league. While this is still a tremendous accomplishment, it may be surprising, not to mention disappointing for seemingly promising prospects. Usually, these players only appeared in a handful of games, playing sparingly. You generally wouldn't expect them to be starters, at least outside of a game or two when injuries opened up a rare opportunity.

Surprisingly, several single season players were starters for a respectable chunk of their only NBA campaigns. For the purposes of compiling the most interesting and relevant list - i.e. not just including anyone who played one season and started a few games - I've set the cut-off at starting in at least 20% of their appearances. That might still seem generous, but considering that most single season players have ridden the bench, it represents some regular forays into the starting five. Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: The OMG Trailer for NBA 2K14

Postby Andrew on Wed May 11, 2022 2:11 pm

Wayback Wednesday: The OMG Trailer for NBA 2K14

Is there a more important and impactful trailer in the history of basketball gaming than the OMG Trailer, promoting NBA 2K14 for PlayStation 4 and Xbox One? While there have been other fantastic trailers and promotional spots for basketball video games, you'd be hard-pressed to find one that turned as many heads, and that gamers still know by name. It boldly announced the arrival of a new generation, and made a statement that Visual Concepts were eager to make full use of the technology they now had at their disposal.

The OMG Trailer for NBA 2K14 is something you can still appreciate today. It still looks amazing almost a decade and entire console generation later. In a way, it's even more impressive now that we know the game lived up to the hype; even if a few of us discovered that later than others! There's more to the OMG Trailer for NBA 2K14 than just reflecting on how awesome it was, though. It's had a lasting impact on the series and basketball gaming as a whole, but has also proven to be a hard act to follow. Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: The Lasting Impact of NBA Live 13

Postby Andrew on Wed May 18, 2022 2:55 pm

Wayback Wednesday: The Lasting Impact of NBA Live 13

When I covered NBA Elite 11 and NBA Live 13 for our 25th Anniversary of NBA Live content, it wasn't the easiest article to write. Not only was it delving into major low points for the series in the midst of celebrating a milestone, but it's talking about games that didn't come out and most of us have never played, apart from the NBA Elite 11 demo. Of course, the full version of NBA Elite 11 has since leaked online, which has given gamers the opportunity to play it via emulation. There are some mixed opinions, but the general consensus is that it's on par with the demo.

To that end, there's a reasonably clear picture of NBA Elite 11: a full preview season, a widely-panned demo, leaked copies in the wild that people got their hands on, and a ripped version that finally gave more gamers a hands-on look. Conversely, NBA Live 13 remains more of a mystery. The previews were mostly vague about details before they stopped, and not much else has been revealed about the cancelled game except that it wasn't close to being good enough. Still, despite being canned, NBA Live 13 had a lasting impact on the series and community. Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: NBA Returns After Extended Absences (Part 2)

Postby Andrew on Wed May 25, 2022 4:09 pm

Wayback Wednesday: NBA Returns After Extended Absences (Part 2)

The time has come to profile another group of players that made returns to the NBA after several years, and the video games that reflected those comebacks. Well, for the most part. Some of these NBA returns occurred after the rosters were finalised, and thus the players appeared in the following year's games, usually after their comeback run had concluded. And, while it's probably giving away one of the examples, at least one of them occurred long before video games, thus it has no official representation on the virtual hardwood.

Because my aim is to revisit these moments in NBA history through the lens of video games, I was originally on the fence about including such examples. However, there are good stories and interesting trivia to share, and for the most part, I'm adhering to the original aim. Once again, credit to The BBall Pundit on Twitter for suggesting this topic! Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Signature Skills in NBA 2K

Postby Andrew on Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:24 pm

Wayback Wednesday: Signature Skills in NBA 2K

A key improvement as basketball video games have evolved is the way in which different player abilities are represented. Indeed, the difference between an old basketball video game that shows its age and a title that holds up extremely well is that in the former, every player tends to play the same. Whether it's their speed, shooting ability, or another part of their game, they might as well be generic. Of course, in games like Double Dribble, they were! It worked there, but NBA games that utilised real players needed to accurately represent their skills and athleticism.

This led to the implementation of player ratings, many of which became standard across basketball video games. As games became more sophisticated, ratings alone weren't enough. Player-specific moves and animations, as well as tendencies, helped games take the next step. There needed to be a mechanic that went beyond ratings, though; something that represented an uncanny knack or specialised skill. These days, NBA 2K achieves this through the use of Badges. Before Badges however, we had Signature Skills. In some ways, they were better than their successors. If nothing else, they paved the way for them. Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Familiar Faces Back in Familiar Places (Part 6)

Postby Andrew on Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:49 pm

Wayback Wednesday: Familiar Faces Back in Familiar Places (Part 6)

ASince there are a number of players who became familiar faces back in familiar places at some point in their career, its time for the sixth instalment of this series! For those who are unfamiliar with the topic, I'm taking a look back at players who returned to teams that they're usually most closely associated with, after stints elsewhere. While many big names never had a proper reunion with their former clubs until after they retired, others did don the same jersey once again (or an updated version of it). The same goes for players who weren't stars, but still noteworthy names that we recall.

Of course, sometimes we forget about their return stints, especially if they were brief and towards the end of their career, and there was no hoopla of an "official" farewell tour. As I've said before, one way to recall these familiar faces being back in familiar places is to fire up an old video game, and see them there in the rosters. It's why I'm looking at these examples through the lens of basketball video games, on top of them being what we're all about here at the NLSC. Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: NBA Live 2003 vs NBA Live 2004

Postby Andrew on Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:27 pm

Wayback Wednesday: NBA Live 2003 vs NBA Live 2004

Once again, I've gone a while between posting a new "Versus" feature for Wayback Wednesday. There is a reason for that, though. With so many retro basketball games and retro basketball gaming topics to cover, it can take a while to circle back to titles I've already talked about. I'd also prefer not to profile games for the first time with a direct comparison to another game, as that would get in the way of a comprehensive retrospective. However, it is fun and interesting to rank and rate old favourites, having had plenty of time to enjoy and reflect on them.

That brings us to NBA Live 2003 and NBA Live 2004, back-to-back releases in the Golden Age of NBA Live; or possibly the series' second Golden Age, depending on how you rate NBA Live 2001 and NBA Live 2002. Among older basketball gamers, there's a ton of nostalgia for both games. If you're my age, you'll remember them as fun games from early adulthood. If you're slightly younger, they may have been your entry into basketball gaming! The question is: which game is better? I've broken up my arguments into five categories, so let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Familiar Faces in Strange Places (Part 7)

Postby Andrew on Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:56 pm

Wayback Wednesday: Familiar Faces in Strange Places (Part 7)

Yes, we're reached the seventh instalment of this series! For the record, while this may not be the last time I cover this topic in Wayback Wednesday, it's the final list that I've had planned. I'm sure there are other examples that I'll find when I revisit classic games, and of course over time, new games will grow old and more players will end up becoming familiar faces in strange places. If there are any noteworthy examples that I haven't covered in these seven articles, feel free to let me know. A Part 8 may be in order at some point!

For those who may be unfamiliar with this topic, I'm taking a look back at the unusual stints of players who are generally associated with a specific team. They're the stints that are often forgotten, or in some cases, ones that we tried to forget because of how lacklustre they were, or how wrong it felt to see a player in a different jersey. I'm looking at them through the lens of basketball video games, as we'll often see these familiar faces in strange places when we fire up older titles and browse the rosters. To that end, I've mostly tried to focus on stints that have been officially represented in games, at launch or in official roster updates. Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: NBA Returns Over Before They Began (Part 2)

Postby Andrew on Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:24 pm

Wayback Wednesday: NBA Returns Over Before They Began (Part 2)

As I've said so many times before, as an avid fan of basketball and basketball video games, I love trivia concerning both. It's even better when that trivia intersects, which is why I write articles covering familiar faces in strange and familiar places, players with more video game appearances than NBA games played, phantom stints that were captured in games, and NBA returns following extended absences. That last idea was a suggestion that was spun off of another article, which looked at NBA returns that were over before they even began.

In this case, I'm talking about situations where players almost became familiar faces back in familiar places, but didn't end up donning an old jersey once more. This is in contrast to comeback attempts that fell short, as there have been some big names that mulled NBA returns, only to remain in retirement. Today however, I'm looking at the players whose returns to their former NBA teams did actually happen on paper, but ended before a reunion could truly begin. Let's take a look back...way back...
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