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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby maholisoa on Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:12 pm

Hi Hawk I just want to inform you that Divac in the 01-02 Kings dribbles like a PG. Thanks
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby jonhpipepipe on Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:30 pm

ChrisBrodbeck wrote:Hey guys, I have a little riddle for you: Guess who just got posterized with a mayor throwdown by non other then Don Carlson, 5'11 SG of the 1946 Chicago Stags!?

Here's a hint: I played with one of the Mavs teams, and the guy is a center!


But serouisly, I mean I f'd up and overlooked some stuff when I created players and teams in the past, but how can a 5'11 shooting guard from 1946 have a dunk rating of 84? Did they even dunk back then? :D

I think jonhpipepipe made that team...And if I'm off here, and Don Carlson was the 1940s version of Vince Carter, then I will bow my head in shame!:


I know it's really funny and unreal, but i spent hours creating that teams and work a lot to give you guys a little basis... Some tendencies and ratings i fixed right now, but imagine how difficult it's to make a team from th 40's and the early 50's???

Without information, very little ratings, few images and pictures, only with some numbers and phisical attirbutes... Just a bit hard folks. So if you found mistakes, call me, but don't take it too hard... :D

I appreciate the feedback and i'm always open to suggestions, thanks.
John.

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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby jonhpipepipe on Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:32 pm

Hawk, please check your PM, i fixed some ratings from stags, bullets and royals. I sent the file to you, double check it with you want.
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby sevin0seven on Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:20 pm

jonhpipepipe wrote:Hahahahahah, sorry man, i'll check this guy again and so the others... To fix this "slaaaaaaaam dunk issue!" hehehehe
By the way, feel free to make suggestions and helping me improve my modest teams. :oops:


maybe give them an average of 40 to 60 dunk ratings at best since these are the 40s Team....or the Chris Mullin/Danny Ferry dunk ratings. :mrgreen:
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby HAWK23 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:32 pm

For anyone interested I've updated Inbar and Stomp's 1997-1998 Roster Mod to be compatible with the Ultimate Base Roster and Official2K updates. No conflicts (if it asks you to overwrite have no fear of it messing anything up)

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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby HAWK23 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:49 pm

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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby HAWK23 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:52 pm

ChrisBrodbeck wrote:
Also, I wanted to report some bugs I found:
- Reeves on the Grizzlies has the "O'Neal Pants" problem! :D
- somehow the warmup jackets on the Pistol Pete Jazz got f'd up, this is my fault and I will fix this asap! Or, if anyone of the jersey makers can tell me how to get rid of the warmups all together I would do that instead!

2 other things: when I made that list of all the jerseys that had little mistakes on them, there were some that were greyish AND had mistakes, I held off on those because likeaboss asked for all the jersey names to correct them or something. If he's not in the middle of the process of correcting all those jerseys, I'll edit those all from grey to white until the next weekend! Just let me know if there's been any news from likeaboss, so we don't end up doing twice the work!

second, some here wrote very nice comments about the 88 or 89 (can't remember) Bullets, I've allready done the groundwork and can have them ready for V18/by next weekend if HAWK is interessted!

Just let me know, and thanks again HAWK for all the work and time you spend on improving and growing this mod!!! :bowdown2:



Brenzon - thanks for the kind words - Johnpipepipe is aware of some of the dunk package issues and has send me some updates to them for next time. As for some of your other points:

Bryant Reeves doesn't seem to have the shorts issue with me... I just played a game with them and he looked fine. He does have the PG bug though, which I will fix.

Not sure about warmup jackets

Haven't heard anything from likeaboss

Sure - go for the 87-88 Bullets - you can send them on over when you're done!
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby ChrisBrodbeck on Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:41 pm

jonhpipepipe wrote:I know it's really funny and unreal, but i spent hours creating that teams and work a lot to give you guys a little basis... Some tendencies and ratings i fixed right now, but imagine how difficult it's to make a team from th 40's and the early 50's???

Without information, very little ratings, few images and pictures, only with some numbers and phisical attirbutes... Just a bit hard folks. So if you found mistakes, call me, but don't take it too hard... :D

I appreciate the feedback and i'm always open to suggestions, thanks.
John.


I know what you mean, and I didn't want to come across angry or anything! I appreciate the work you do, believe me! So If I was a little harsh, I'm sorry!

HAWK23 wrote:Bryant Reeves doesn't seem to have the shorts issue with me... I just played a game with them and he looked fine. He does have the PG bug though, which I will fix.


I checked it again, and I found the problem: He has this bug just when the retro jerseys are selected:

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Not sure how to fix this...but now it's clear that this is a jersey type or jersey graphics bug, right? Jersey creators to the rescue!!! :headbang:
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby jonhpipepipe on Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:09 am

ChrisBrodbeck wrote:
jonhpipepipe wrote:I know it's really funny and unreal, but i spent hours creating that teams and work a lot to give you guys a little basis... Some tendencies and ratings i fixed right now, but imagine how difficult it's to make a team from th 40's and the early 50's???

Without information, very little ratings, few images and pictures, only with some numbers and phisical attirbutes... Just a bit hard folks. So if you found mistakes, call me, but don't take it too hard... :D

I appreciate the feedback and i'm always open to suggestions, thanks.
John.


I know what you mean, and I didn't want to come across angry or anything! I appreciate the work you do, believe me! So If I was a little harsh, I'm sorry!


You what, i became too sensitive... hahahahahahah a little :fruity: heheheheheheh
Brenzon, i'm open for the criticism, your checks and opinions help my improvements and our game. Call me, send PM, start a light fire, anything to get better! (Y)

I'm sorry if my speech was too serious too. Thanks bro.
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby retromanas on Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:13 am

HAWK23 wrote:For anyone interested I've updated Inbar and Stomp's 1997-1998 Roster Mod to be compatible with the Ultimate Base Roster and Official2K updates. No conflicts (if it asks you to overwrite have no fear of it messing anything up)

1997-1998 Mod/Roster V2.0


HAWK23 I want to ask, if i want only to have real 1997-1998 East and West All-Star Teams and real 1997-1998 East and West Rookie Teams, what part do i need to install? if it possible or i need to install every part of V2?
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby HAWK23 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:45 am

Broken - not possible... just install all of V2
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby HAWK23 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:48 am

Broderick.... VERRRRRRY interesting.... I've ALWAYS thought that shorts problem had to do with the "player body type". For example if I change Reeves' body type to "normal" instead of "fat" the shorts problem will go away (but he won't look as accurate). But for it to work with the 01 Grizzlies uniforms but not the 99 Grizzlies uniform is VERY interesting. It is definitely a jersey problem then.
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby V13 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:51 am

Hi,

could you add these jerseys for all time franchise teams: for Cavs Lebron era home, road and alt jerseys, for Miami current red alternate, for New Orleans current alternate NOLA jersey, for Kings Webber era jerseys, for Magic current black alternate, for Indiana Miller/O'Neal era striped home, away and alt jerseys, for Raptors current black alternate, for Timberwolves KG era home, away and alt jerseys, for Blazers current red alt and for Wizards Arenas era home, away and alt jerseys ?
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby HAWK23 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:56 am

V13.... I've been thinking about just giving all of the retro jerseys to the all-time franchise teams instead of the regular NBA teams... but it's a pain in the ass to do. You'll notice I tried to add a few of the really popular retro jerseys to the all-time franchise teams.
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby V13 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:13 am

Thank you for your effort. Also, I have a question: will the Brooklyn Nets new logo and etc. affect other mods like Alby's rosters ?
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Postby HAWK23 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:26 am

I believe it would... not 100% sure though... my stuff is not completely compatible with Albys because the portrait file the Ultimate Base Roster uses is much larger and expansive than the one he uses (because it has a TON more legend portraits as you probably noticed) but Alby hasn't reset his portrait numbers to match with the Official2K updates (which is what the Ultimate Base Roster does). I don't believe Alby's roster uses the logo.iff files. These are the most important files to the Ultimate Base Roster because it gives all the retro teams their real logos without removing any other current nba team logos. I believe that the logo file would change the Nets in Alby's roster as well, but I don't know for sure.

If you want to use Alby's stuff with the Ultimate Base Roster stuff I suggest the most important thing is downloading/installing ALL of the files in the Ultimate Base Roster (as there are tons of extras in it that other rosters don't have) then downloading Alby's stuff and slowly adding it to see what you can and cannot add. I think the only thing that really conflicts is the portrait file that I use and the portrait file Albys uses. There really is no question the portrait file we have created for the Ultimate Base Roster is light years ahead of any other portrait file because it ADDS new portraits instead of replacing portraits, and in doing so we have literally added 1,000+ NEW portraits to the game without removing any.
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby V13 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:36 am

Thanks for the info, I don't care if there will be few incorrect portraits when I load Alby's roster, I just wanted to know if the Nets logo and etc. would stay the same.
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby HAWK23 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:09 am

Projected updates for V18:

Crashing Issues:
None at this time

Team Adds:
*1946-1947 Philadelphia Warriors [Johnpipepipe]
*1955-1956 Philadelphia Warriors [Johnpipepipe]
*1964-1965 St. Louis Hawks [Created by Аким]
*1975-1976 Phoenix Suns [Created by JohnPipePipe]
*1979-1980 Boston Celtics [Created by Brenzon]
*1987-1988 Washington Bullets [Brenzon working on it]
*1990-1991 Philadelphia 76ers [Sevin0Seven working on it]
*1992-1993 Los Angeles Clippers [Completed by Sevin0Seven]
*1993-1994 Miami Heat [HAWK23 working on it]
*1996-1997 Milwaukee Bucks [Sevin0Seven working on it]
*1996-1997 Toronto Raptors [Completed by Sevin0Seven]
*1998-1999 Houston Rockets [Sevin0Seven working on it]
*2001-2002 Boston Celtics [Completed by Аким tweaked by Nuhmete]
*2001-2002 Seattle SuperSonics [Completed by Brenzon]
*2001-2002 Charlotte Hornets [Created by Аким]
*2002-2003 Phoenix Suns [Created by Аким]
*2002-2003 Golden State Warriors [Completed by Sevin0Seven]
*2005-2006 Philadelphia 76ers [Created by Аким]
*2005-2006 New Jersey Nets [Created by Аким]
Image*2011-2012 Miami Heat
Image*2011-2012 Oklahoma City Thunder
(No I'm not adding the 11-12 Celtics, Spurs, Lakers, Bulls 76ers etc etc etc)

Coach Adds/Edits/Updates:
None at this time

Logo Adds:
None at this time

Jersey Adds/Updates
Image*Changed the shorts length for the 97-98 Cleveland Cavaliers to "90's Length"

Court Adds/Updates:
*Add 1966-1967 San Francisco Warriors court - courtesy Francis27nba
*Add 1975-1976 Phoenix Suns court - courtesy Francis27nba
*Add 1992-1993 Clippers court - courtesy Francis27nba
*Add 1996-1997 Milwaukee Bucks court - courtesy Francis27nba
*Add 1996-1997 Toronto Raptors court - courtesy Francis27nba
*Add 2002-2003 & 2003-2004 Golden State Warriors court - courtesy Francis27nba

Cyberface Adds/Edits:
*Add Desmond Mason Cyberface (02 Sonics)
Image*Add Derek Strong Cyberface (01 Clippers) .IFF file to the download (I think I forgot it)

Portrait Adds/Edits/Updates:
None at this time

Tweak random Cs/PFs/SFs/SGs that handle the ball up the court like a PG:
*2004-2005 Tim Duncan
*2001-2002 Vlade Divac
*2000-2001 Bryant Reeves
*1996-1997 Charles Oakley

Tweak following player tendencies/hot zones:
None at this time

Signature Animation Edits:
None at this time

Other:
Image*Touched up player ratings for the 05-06 Clippers
Image*Touched up player ratings for the 97-98 Cavaliers
Image*Went through all the teams and made some adjustments to players with 25 rating 3-point shots who were guards/had limited playing time
Image*Fixed an Eric Piatkowski (01 Clippers) Play Type issue that may cause the game to crash if you try to run a play for him
Image*Fixed a Wesley Person (98 Cavs) Play Type issue that may cause the game to crash if you try to run a play for him
Image*Fixed audio for Eric Piatkowski (00-01 Clippers)
*Take a look at the 40's/50's players dunks (johnpipepipe sent me some updates for them)
*Edit Riley/Cleamons/Hairston on 71 & 72 Lakers (appearance and ratings)
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby JaoSming on Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:27 am

salivating over the 01-02 Celtics possible addition :drool:
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby maholisoa on Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:21 am

great release HAWK i'm just wondering if you could add the 90's clippers team (young ron harper, danny manning, mark jackson...) as well as the 90's bucks (ray allen, vin baker, glenn robinson) maybe not for the next version by in a near future. Otherwise that 87-88 bullets team would be great I think...I am 80's 90's huge fan.
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby Bassman58 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:33 am

A few years ago I saw an interview with Bob Pettit and he talked about dunking. He was 6'9" and 209lbs and played from 1954-1965. He said that dunking was considered "unsporting" and was not done frequently though it was done during warmups. It's not that they could not dunk. Most 5'11" players can't dunk, especially in a game, but there are exceptions. Jacob "Hops" Tucker is 5'10" and won the NCAA slam dunk contest a few years ago, he now plays for the Harlem Globetrotters. He has a 50" vertical jump. Check out the videos. Maybe Don Carlson could dunk. It's hard to make ratings for players that you will not find information for(no internet, no YouTube, no NBA TV in 1946). Jerry West never shot a three pointer because the 3pt shot was not in effect. Wilt Chamberlain does not have stats for offensive rebounding because it was not an official stat when he played but since he averaged almost 23 rebounds I'm sure he got a few. I think Hawk23 and the contributors have done an excellent job. I really enjoy the historic teams and players. Maybe some of the younger game players will learn that basketball did not start with LeBron James and that old retro guy, Michael Jordan. Also some may learn that "KJ" and "Hondo" don't play for the Celtics, unlike Boston's mayor. :?

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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby HAWK23 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:38 am

JaoSming wrote:salivating over the 01-02 Celtics possible addition :drool:


They almost made it in V17... they're finished... I just want to make sure and do a good job finding a young pierce / walker CF for them so I didn't rush to stick them in


maholisoa wrote:great release HAWK i'm just wondering if you could add the 90's clippers team (young ron harper, danny manning, mark jackson...) as well as the 90's bucks (ray allen, vin baker, glenn robinson) maybe not for the next version by in a near future. Otherwise that 87-88 bullets team would be great I think...I am 80's 90's huge fan.


Yes - I def do want to get that clippers and bucks team in the roster... I'm similar to you in that I like the 80's and 90's teams best... I assure you those will definitely get in soon :D


Bassman58 wrote:A few years ago I saw an interview with Bob Pettit and he talked about dunking. He was 6'9" and 209lbs and played from 1954-1965. He said that dunking was considered "unsporting" and was not done frequently though it was done during warmups. It's not that they could not dunk. Most 5'11" players can't dunk, especially in a game, but there are exceptions. Jacob "Hops" Tucker is 5'10" and won the NCAA slam dunk contest a few years ago, he now plays for the Harlem Globetrotters. He has a 50" vertical jump. Check out the videos. Maybe Don Carlson could dunk. It's hard to make ratings for players that you will not find information for(no internet, no YouTube, no NBA TV in 1946). Jerry West never shot a three pointer because the 3pt shot was not in effect. Wilt Chamberlain does not have stats for offensive rebounding because it was not an official stat when he played but since he averaged almost 23 rebounds I'm sure he got a few. I think Hawk23 and the contributors have done an excellent job. I really enjoy the historic teams and players. Maybe some of the younger game players will learn that basketball did not start with LeBron James and that old retro guy, Michael Jordan. Also some may learn that "KJ" and "Hondo" don't play for the Celtics, unlike Boston's mayor. :?

http://www.harlemglobetrotters.com/player/hops


Bass - I think you hit it on the head... it's hard to make ratings for players who would not dunk early on... like you stated... the reason for this wasn't that they couldn't necessarily do it but it was looked down upon as unsportsmanlike to "show off". Kind of like when baseball players stare at their homerun swings. Same thing with the no 3-point line... it would be criminal to give West a 25 rating 3-point shot just because there was no such thing. So you kind of need to do your best and give educated guesses. My estimate would be that players back then couldn't dunk as well as the ones today (especially the guards) - but we shouldn't penalize them with 25 ratings just because they didn't do it. What we should be doing is making sure the TENDENCIES are accurate and perhaps a little less on the verticals. There is a tendency for each player of whether or not they would prefer to dunk or lay up.... those teams all the players should probably all have their layup slider as much as it can go. Nice video by the way... wish I could do that haha
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby retromanas on Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:59 pm

HAWK23 wrote:Broken - not possible... just install all of V2


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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby rickiu on Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:11 pm

When I click Download Now in the external link, it just stated 'thank you for downloading ultimateBase roster. your download will begin in a few seconds. ......but nothing comes out....

Anyone could give advice on this problem :?: :cry:
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Re: Ultimate Base Roster V17 ***RELEASED*** [232 Teams/10 N

Postby HAWK23 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:55 pm

Yes, just be patient and wait 5 seconds and a download link will pop up... OR click where it says "Your download will begin in a few seconds. If it does not, click here." and click the link that says "here". And if that still doesn't work I would suggest turning off your popup blocker. I just did it, it works fine.
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