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Re: Update 2k11 Rosters Jan1 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portrai

Postby mucusNLSCfriend on Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:57 am

I tried your Jan2011 roster and even though portraits show up fine Koresh's cyber faces do not. They are not missing (white) they are generic (default). To be honest I got the cyberfaces from kova's thread not Koresh's (not sure if they're different).
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Re: Update 2k11 Rosters Jan1 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portrai

Postby cjs007 on Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:06 am

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cjs007 wrote:I tried your roster and everything looks fine so far.

I tried to patch Gary Neal with Koresh's cyber face.....here..........viewtopic.php?f=136&t=75677&start=500

And it didn't work.....what is the png for Gary Neal?


Gary Neal png# is 1688. BTW Mr Xcitement provided an Excel Spreadsheet with the new png#'s for the portraits he added in case you need other png#'s


I just fond out that Gary Neal is #1799
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Re: Update 2k11 Rosters Jan1 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portrai

Postby Darth-Skinett on Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:22 am

cjs007 wrote:
darthskinett wrote:
cjs007 wrote:I tried your roster and everything looks fine so far.

I tried to patch Gary Neal with Koresh's cyber face.....here..........viewtopic.php?f=136&t=75677&start=500

And it didn't work.....what is the png for Gary Neal?


Gary Neal png# is 1688. BTW Mr Xcitement provided an Excel Spreadsheet with the new png#'s for the portraits he added in case you need other png#'s


I just fond out that Gary Neal is #1799


I just fixed Gary Neal and Ben Uzoh CF problem...going to post an update with some other fixes...let me know if you find anything else.
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Re: Update 2k11 Rosters Jan1 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portrai

Postby Darth-Skinett on Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:36 am

mucusfriend wrote:I tried your Jan2011 roster and even though portraits show up fine Koresh's cyber faces do not. They are not missing (white) they are generic (default). To be honest I got the cyberfaces from kova's thread not Koresh's (not sure if they're different).



Let me know which ones are not working so I can fix them before I post an Update...Thx Bro
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Re: Update 2k11 Rosters Jan1 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portrai

Postby Darth-Skinett on Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:59 am

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mucusfriend wrote:I tried your Jan2011 roster and even though portraits show up fine Koresh's cyber faces do not. They are not missing (white) they are generic (default). To be honest I got the cyberfaces from kova's thread not Koresh's (not sure if they're different).



Let me know which ones are not working so I can fix them before I post an Update...Thx Bro


I just fixed all 9 CF's that you are using from Koresh / Kova's Rosters. I will post an update soon.
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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby Darth-Skinett on Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:05 am

New Roster Update posted with Cyberface fixes etc...
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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby mucusNLSCfriend on Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:27 am

It works!! Portrais and CF show up just fine. :bowdown:
I'd start an association right now if 2k released the pc patch.
However I just noticed that you've made minor tweaks. Could you post what you've changed?
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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby Darth-Skinett on Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:35 am

mucusfriend wrote:It works!! Portrais and CF show up just fine. :bowdown:
I'd start an association right now if 2k released the pc patch.
However I just noticed that you've made minor tweaks. Could you post what you've changed?


Besides what's posted only a few ratings adjustments and position adjustments, I just updated the main link with which teams I adjusted
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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby mucusNLSCfriend on Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:13 am

What are your plans now? Will you keep updating every 2k' roster? If so, will you use the new roster as base each time or your current one?
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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby Darth-Skinett on Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:41 am

mucusfriend wrote:What are your plans now? Will you keep updating every 2k' roster? If so, will you use the new roster as base each time or your current one?


I think I will use the newest Official 2k Roster each time as a base. What do you think is best?? I was curious about Juza's Rosters...I haven't tried them yet...but I like what he is trying to do so I will watch his thread and I might ask for permission to use his Rosters as a base.
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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby mucusNLSCfriend on Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:53 pm

I think you should leave everything to default. Just add portraits and CF to 2k's roster.
This may be just me, but I get realistic gameplay+results by playing with 2k's rosters. I'm mainly interested in association mode but 2k's progression system and overall rating formula is so flawed that no user roster can fix it :(
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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby Darth-Skinett on Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:26 am

mucusfriend wrote:I think you should leave everything to default. Just add portraits and CF to 2k's roster.
This may be just me, but I get realistic gameplay+results by playing with 2k's rosters. I'm mainly interested in association mode but 2k's progression system and overall rating formula is so flawed that no user roster can fix it :(


I will keep working with the Official 2k Rosters then...Thanks for the Feedback!!
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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby TorianKel on Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:31 am

thanks for this sir :applaud:
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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby mucusNLSCfriend on Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:30 am

There is a TURK script in Mr.Xcitement's thread that will probably help you if you create a roster from scratch everytime.
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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby Darth-Skinett on Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:20 am

TorianKel wrote:thanks for this sir :applaud:


No problem Bro. Let me know if you have any suggestions on what to improve once you play with the Rosters
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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby Darth-Skinett on Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:24 am

mucusfriend wrote:There is a TURK script in Mr.Xcitement's thread that will probably help you if you create a roster from scratch everytime.


Thanks for the info...

This will definitely help in the future (Y) let me know your suggestions on what can be done to improve the Rosters.
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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby freestyla85 on Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:32 am

Brilliant work man! :applaud: :crazyeyes:
Shoe patch + portraits + new cyberfaces + updated Roster = WIN! great idea
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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby Darth-Skinett on Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:36 am

freestyla85 wrote:Brilliant work man! :applaud: :crazyeyes:
Shoe patch + portraits + new cyberfaces + updated Roster = WIN! great idea


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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby mucusNLSCfriend on Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:43 am

Something that may help in association mode without altering on-court gameplay is lowering everyone's potential by 10. You can also set d-leaguers' pro years to 27 so they retire after this season. :idea: You could also lower everyone's offensive/defensive awareness by 10 (or more) so they have lower overall ratings but still play the same however this needs further testing (results are not clarified yet).
Those changes would be too painstaking to do on every roster, I hope more scripts can be created with reditor.
I firmly believe that you should not alter any ratings, tendencies, positions etc, there are already great rosters (kova's etc).
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Re: New Update! 2k Roster Jan3 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby Darth-Skinett on Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:01 am

mucusfriend wrote:Something that may help in association mode without altering on-court gameplay is lowering everyone's potential by 10. You can also set d-leaguers' pro years to 27 so they retire after this season. :idea: You could also lower everyone's offensive/defensive awareness by 10 (or more) so they have lower overall ratings but still play the same however this needs further testing (results are not clarified yet).
Those changes would be too painstaking to do on every roster, I hope more scripts can be created with reditor.
I firmly believe that you should not alter any ratings, tendencies, positions etc, there are already great rosters (kova's etc).


I am going to play some games with a Roster I am testing to see if some simple Rotation / Ratings changes make a difference. I agree with you...the more you start playing around with stuff the more complicated it gets...and most of the time you never get the results you are looking for. Let's see what happens!!
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Re: NewRelease! 2k Roster Jan5 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby Darth-Skinett on Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:30 am

New Rosters Posted...Version 3 is out!!!
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Re: NewRelease! 2k Roster Jan5 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby mucusNLSCfriend on Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:30 pm

I do not like this. Portraits and cyberfaces work just fine as usual (Y) but player positions are just off.
For instance you've set d-rose's secondary position as SG but I have never seen him play as such. Also Joe Johnson's is clearly a SG, not SF. And Granger is certainly not a PF. I have not noticed your ratings adjustments.
I do not understand why you did this. It's true that players' roles are messed up but why do we care? :?: Teams use players according to minutes set in rotations.
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Re: NewRelease! 2k Roster Jan5 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby Darth-Skinett on Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:35 am

mucusfriend wrote:I do not like this. Portraits and cyberfaces work just fine as usual (Y) but player positions are just off.
For instance you've set d-rose's secondary position as SG but I have never seen him play as such. Also Joe Johnson's is clearly a SG, not SF. And Granger is certainly not a PF. I have not noticed your ratings adjustments.
I do not understand why you did this. It's true that players' roles are messed up but why do we care? :?: Teams use players according to minutes set in rotations.


I noticed some stuff that needs changing too...My Bad!! on Rose & Granger...I did mean to leave Johnson at SF since they are pretty stacked in the backcourt. I will fix that on the next update.

You should barely notice the changes to Ratings since I agreed with you that messing with the ratings too much isn't a good idea...I just adjusted ratings to get players into the lineup or into a 6th man position.

The reason I care about Players Roles are because it determines the minutes they play in a game and how the player is utilized...

For example
a Player that should be a 6th man that is a Role Player will make a major difference in playing time...
a Player that should be a Role Player that is a Bench Warmer may not be in your lineup in Exhibition and especially in Association.

What usually happens in Association is the Teams you are not managing have a poor rotation which effects Chemistry and causes players to get upset or demand to get traded.
This means you are not getting the best matchups on the Court...I have already noticed a difference. Still testing!!
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Re: NewRelease! 2k Roster Jan5 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby mucusNLSCfriend on Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:53 am

I do not understand. From my experience things are totally different.
In quick matches teams will use players as much as you've set in rotations. In season/association mode rotations just reset and cpu controlled teams rely solely on overall ratings to distribute minutes and roles (there is a bug with injured players but it's 2k's fault).
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Re: NewRelease! 2k Roster Jan5 2011 for Mr Xcitement's Portr

Postby Darth-Skinett on Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:21 am

mucusfriend wrote:I do not understand. From my experience things are totally different.
In quick matches teams will use players as much as you've set in rotations. In season/association mode rotations just reset and cpu controlled teams rely solely on overall ratings to distribute minutes and roles (there is a bug with injured players but it's 2k's fault).


What I am trying to do is make sure that the Player who is supposed to be a 6th man...shows up in that position. If a player's rating is too low and they do not make it into the 12 man rotation...I have adjusted the ratings slightly so that they do. I am going to post an update tomorrow once I test it some more.
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