Ramiro 12 minutes sliders released

[ramirojavier]

Any updates?
Your sliders are a-m-a-z-i-n-g!!

Patch is still not out so...

Which one is the right one for now: "last update" or "improve off"? Which one is better / more updated?

The last update is the best one!
But I'm changin' some things right now! I don't want to release it 'cause fouls and turnovers change every game I play, so I'm trying to get a good balance
Stay tuned!

PD. I'll try to finish it before 31st December

[ramirojavier]

Check out the 1st post. Update released!

[ramirojavier]

1st post updated again guys! there were some mistakes in the other files! you can try this ones

http://www.mediafire.com/?qalxtr25me5j6vh
http://www.sendspace.com/file/3o1iov

[ramirojavier]

Happy new year guys!

I updated the sliders in the 1st post!
Check them out!

[ramirojavier]

I'm not going to post or upload any new sliders until I received any comments of you, guys, cause I don't know really if I'm doing my job well, if I'm going for the right track, if I have to change my way.

Please, send me your replies, and please tell me your own experiencies with the sliders

[iJunaid]

No, please continue making updates. The reason we're not making comments is, that you're doing a great job. My only issue is, can you please modify it for 12-minute quarters with a realistic game speed (I use 45). Fouls are decent, but we need more other than just shooting fouls. Hopefully, I can post up some game stats after I finish them. Also, does it matter if we use Kova's Complete Roster with your sliders? I think it makes the perfect combination. Thanks.

[ramirojavier]

No, please continue making updates. The reason we're not making comments is, that you're doing a great job. My only issue is, can you please modify it for 12-minute quarters with a realistic game speed (I use 45). Fouls are decent, but we need more other than just shooting fouls. Hopefully, I can post up some game stats after I finish them. Also, does it matter if we use Kova's Complete Roster with your sliders? I think it makes the perfect combination. Thanks.

Rosters are really the same... I'm not using Juza's right now cause I made my own changes (but there are minor ones).
Fouls can't be edited better. It's just impossible, I set the CPU "Go for on-ball steals" on 100 and it doesn't try to steal the ball or commit 1 foul in the match.
YES, please, show me some stats of a match in 12-min. so I could see which sliders need a tweak

Obviously, thx for your comments... I really need your replies cause I don't know really if I'm doing right my job. Maybe you download the SLIDERS and you found that you don't like them so you don't make a comment. I can't tell if you like it or not, just that... Thx again

[iJunaid]

Ramiro, I just downloaded your updated version 2.0 and the gameplay is way too fast. I set the speed to 35 and the player's are still moving too fast. In my opinion, I think you should revert back to the New Years update and build off that. Also, I just bought Fraps, so I'll be able to record the gameplay and upload the video to show the stats off and how it behaves during the game. Thanks again bro for creating a real simulation slider set.

[ramirojavier]

Ramiro, I just downloaded your updated version 2.0 and the gameplay is way too fast. I set the speed to 35 and the player's are still moving too fast. In my opinion, I think you should revert back to the New Years update and build off that. Also, I just bought Fraps, so I'll be able to record the gameplay and upload the video to show the stats off and how it behaves during the game. Thanks again bro for creating a real simulation slider set.

i didn't change the speed slider. i just tweak the pass accuracy and the stealing levels.
i don't know why there are some differences between the NEW YEAR and the V2.0

[iJunaid]

The new slider previews look great. How many minute-quarters are you playing? My opinion is that there should be more free throws? (At least 5-6 minimum per team per quarter.) Can't wait for the release, keep up the good work.

[ramirojavier]

The new slider previews look great. How many minute-quarters are you playing? My opinion is that there should be more free throws? (At least 5-6 minimum per team per quarter.) Can't wait for the release, keep up the good work.

Thank you!
I'm playing 10min/quarter..
The issue with the free throws is that if you constantly try to penetrate you will get a foul, so I try to adjust the "attack the basket slider"... Sometimes you're gonna get more FT's, sometimess less... but I'm still working...

I will post the LEAGUE LEADERS and TEAM STATS of a Simulated Season... so you can see the FG% and some other stats

[womalee23]

Please post these sliders so i use for my 360?

[ramirojavier]

Please post these sliders so i use for my 360?

no problem man! but it's gonna take a while... just be pacient
thx

[ramirojavier]

Updated 1st post

[marinmarin]

Hey man i tried your sliders,but i am not sure did i download the right ones.Should i download the sliders from top or from the bottom of the first page.I downloaded these from the bottom of the first page and this is how it looked like,i played quick game with lakers vs celtics.I downloaded you settings also,i didn't play with shot stick timing before and i am not sure that this is better but if this is the only way to have realistic fg% i'll take it..

So here are the stats from this game.Kobe was the best for me,he had 20 points but he didn't shoot so well,he was 9-25,and Pierce had 20 for celtics but he shot better,10-21.And the other thing i would like to ask you,have you tried kova's roster.It works for me,but the pace is little slower so i think i could play 11 or 12 minutes with your sliders.My opinion based on this game is that free throws need major improvement...

[marinmarin]

Probably you know this,but maybe it can help you in building the sliders,beside each average are the highs and lows in parentheses.This is from 09-10 season


Offense

Points- 100 (110 PHO - 92 NJN)

FGA- 81 total (87 GSW - 77 BOS)

27 @ rim (dunks, layups & putbacks) (32 MEM - 22 MIA)

9 @ <10 ft (excluding dunks, layups & putbacks) (12 MEM - 6 NYK)

7 @ 10-15 ft (11 MIN - 5 NYK)

20 @ 16-23 ft (28 CHI - 13 ORL)

18 @ 3pt (27 ORL - 12 MEM)

FG%- 46% (49% PHO - 43% NJN)

FT%- 76% (82% DAL - 72% CLE)

Assist Rate- 20 (25 UTA - 17 MEM)

Turnover Rate- 13 (15 CHA - 11 ATL)

Offensive Rebound Rate (% of available rebounds that were offensive)- 26% (31% MEM - 21% GSW)

Free Throw Rate- 30 (38 DEN - 24 MIL)


Defense

Defensive Rebound Rate (see above)- 74% (77% ORL - 69% GSW)

Block Rate- 5 (6 OKC - 4 MIN)

Defensive Plays Rate (Blocks, Steals, Taken Charges)- 15 (16 OKC - 13 TOR)

Steals- 7 (9 GSW - 6 TOR)

Charges Drawn- 2 (3 HOU - 1 ATL)

Team Fouls- 21 (23 GSW - 19 DAL)


Advanced

Total Rebound Rate- 50 (52 CLE - 44 GSW)

[ramirojavier]

Hey man i tried your sliders,but i am not sure did i download the right ones.Should i download the sliders from top or from the bottom of the first page.I downloaded these from the bottom of the first page and this is how it looked like,i played quick game with lakers vs celtics.I downloaded you settings also,i didn't play with shot stick timing before and i am not sure that this is better but if this is the only way to have realistic fg% i'll take it..

So here are the stats from this game.Kobe was the best for me,he had 20 points but he didn't shoot so well,he was 9-25,and Pierce had 20 for celtics but he shot better,10-21.And the other thing i would like to ask you,have you tried kova's roster.It works for me,but the pace is little slower so i think i could play 11 or 12 minutes with your sliders.My opinion based on this game is that free throws need major improvement...

You must download the sliders that are in the top of the first page...
Try 10 minutes with Albys roster and tell me

PS. Yes, FT's are disturbing. Is really difficult to get a good balance of FT 'cause in the REAL NBA GAME there are tech fouls and other kind of things that create Free Throws. Here, the only way to do that, is by a Shooting Foul, and it's not that real if every foul is a Shooting one... So, hope you understand. Obviouslly, you can use this as a base if you like it and make your own changes.

Thx for the answer bro

[ramirojavier]

Probably you know this,but maybe it can help you in building the sliders,beside each average are the highs and lows in parentheses.This is from 09-10 season


Offense

Points- 100 (110 PHO - 92 NJN)

FGA- 81 total (87 GSW - 77 BOS)

27 @ rim (dunks, layups & putbacks) (32 MEM - 22 MIA)

9 @ <10 ft (excluding dunks, layups & putbacks) (12 MEM - 6 NYK)

7 @ 10-15 ft (11 MIN - 5 NYK)

20 @ 16-23 ft (28 CHI - 13 ORL)

18 @ 3pt (27 ORL - 12 MEM)

FG%- 46% (49% PHO - 43% NJN)

FT%- 76% (82% DAL - 72% CLE)

Assist Rate- 20 (25 UTA - 17 MEM)

Turnover Rate- 13 (15 CHA - 11 ATL)

Offensive Rebound Rate (% of available rebounds that were offensive)- 26% (31% MEM - 21% GSW)

Free Throw Rate- 30 (38 DEN - 24 MIL)


Defense

Defensive Rebound Rate (see above)- 74% (77% ORL - 69% GSW)

Block Rate- 5 (6 OKC - 4 MIN)

Defensive Plays Rate (Blocks, Steals, Taken Charges)- 15 (16 OKC - 13 TOR)

Steals- 7 (9 GSW - 6 TOR)

Charges Drawn- 2 (3 HOU - 1 ATL)

Team Fouls- 21 (23 GSW - 19 DAL)


Advanced

Total Rebound Rate- 50 (52 CLE - 44 GSW)

Just try simulating a SEASON 12min per quarter... and check out the results..

[marinmarin]

Downloaded albys rr4 and your version 3 and started asoociation with Lakers.Nice feeling,i hope i'll enjoy it,i'll report to you what is good what could be better and everything that could be interesting to you or could help you in making even better sliders..

[ramirojavier]

Downloaded albys rr4 and your version 3 and started asoociation with Lakers.Nice feeling,i hope i'll enjoy it,i'll report to you what is good what could be better and everything that could be interesting to you or could help you in making even better sliders..

Thx marinmarin Enjoy!

[ramirojavier]

Posted the sliders in the 1st Page... Read it completely

[marinmarin]

I changed my mind i decided to play with Blazers and the second game was vs clippers.

As you can see,didn't have so great experience,maybe i should play with RR2 like you,but maybe it's just this game even team score less than 60 like 1 time in season...



And the good side is,i've never played with sliders like yours.Everything was great except fg%.Turnovers great,blocking good,non-steal turnovers,free throws improved.off rebounds...

[ramirojavier]

I changed my mind i decided to play with Blazers and the second game was vs clippers.

As you can see,didn't have so great experience,maybe i should play with RR2 like you,but maybe it's just this game even team score less than 60 like 1 time in season...



And the good side is,i've never played with sliders like yours.Everything was great except fg%.Turnovers great,blocking good,non-steal turnovers,free throws improved.off rebounds...

Thx for your reply... I need to know.. are you playing 5 minutes per quarter? Cause I configure the sliders for 10 min quarters... That's what I play
Just tell me that... 'cause every single pic I posted represents a game that I actually play. And my FG% are not that low.. It's very strange for me.
Thanks again marinmarin... I really appreciate your comments

[marinmarin]

Tnx for fast reply,No i played 10 minutes,just like you said,it's strange to me,you have albys rr2 and i play with rr4 but it's hard to believe that there's such a big difference between these two...

[ramirojavier]

Tnx for fast reply,No i played 10 minutes,just like you said,it's strange to me,you have albys rr2 and i play with rr4 but it's hard to believe that there's such a big difference between these two...

Really I don't understand... Cause every pic I posted, as I told you, is a real game. My lowest score has been 70's... but not 48. That's really wierd. Did you download the sliders that are below the match blazers-clippers? The one which ends in OT with the clipps winning. Please, try simulating a season completely in 12 min per quarter and you'll check the stats of every team and the players. Then do the same in 10 min quarter, there is going to be lower stats but it's going to be realistic.

PS. I played my seasons set in 10 min quarter for me and 12 minutes in simulation
PS 2. As I see, the other match you posted here (celtics-lakers) ends 80-82... so there's must be something wrong in the game... Maybe Albys set player's sliders lower than his previews roster...