Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:53 pm
Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:08 pm
Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:13 pm
Because it doesn't make sense to me, I don't understand how one can believe that the reason we all exist is because os 2 people.. I don't see how people can believe that Jesus existed and made rocks become bread..
I just confused by how one can believe it... Ever wonder why people like Jesus existed only thousands of years ago? Probably because if nowadays someone claimed to be god, they'd be considered crazy...
Benji- I'm not trying to flame you though. Why do my PERSONAL beliefs have to be a direct insult on you...
Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:23 pm
Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:08 pm
Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:30 pm
Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:50 pm
Chaser7 wrote:Because it doesn't make sense to me, I don't understand how one can believe that the reason we all exist is because os 2 people.. I don't see how people can believe that Jesus existed and made rocks become bread.. I'm not afraid of it, I just confused by how one can believe it... Ever wonder why people like Jesus existed only thousands of years ago? Probably because if nowadays someone claimed to be god, they'd be considered crazy...
As far as the "fables" in the Bible...those stories are in every religion. And don't take them so seriously. Did Jesus really walk on water? Did Moses really part the sea? Did Muhammad really hallucinate in a cave and see an angel?...who knows. But your faith in a religion shouldn't be based upon whether any of these did or did not happen. Rather, delve deeper and discover the themes and the lessons these stories present. Whether it's Christianity, Islam, Judaism or whatever, EVERY story in their Holy Book has life lessons to learn from.
Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:51 am
Because it doesn't make sense to me
Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:18 am
We all wanna believe some things just happen, without a particular reason or scientific explanation, and we all wanna believe there is a better place where we all have the possibility to go once we're gone.
It's just plain stupid, religion is a really personal thing, it shouldn't be dictated by any book or person.
Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:21 am
el badman wrote:We all wanna believe some things just happen, without a particular reason or scientific explanation, and we all wanna believe there is a better place where we all have the possibility to go once we're gone.
No we don't, some people really don't NEED to believe in this. Benji was mentioning the fact that irreligious people"fear" faith and religions in general, which is why they feel the need to flame others who do believe. But don't these people (religious) live in fear as well? The fact that you're not comfortable enough with your own existence and with your responsabilities as a human being (provided you acknowledge them), and that you need to believe in guidelines and stories from a book and in a higher authority, wouldn't this be considered as fear as well? Who's afraid the most then?
Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:47 am
Chaser7 wrote:Because it doesn't make sense to me, I don't understand how one can believe that the reason we all exist is because os 2 people.. I don't see how people can believe that Jesus existed and made rocks become bread.. I'm not afraid of it, I just confused by how one can believe it... Ever wonder why people like Jesus existed only thousands of years ago? Probably because if nowadays someone claimed to be god, they'd be considered crazy...
Benji- I'm not trying to flame you though. Why do my PERSONAL beliefs have to be a direct insult on you... Religion is a complicated thing, and there are many different sides to it. I'm not holding anything against you.
Elbeen wrote:In regards to the impossible things in the Bible:
Some things aren't really possible.
You really need to read between the lines to understand what those mean.
Heck, no one yet really knows what it mean.
For example:
The story of Adam and Eve, some people interpret it that the two of them populate the world.
That ain't possible and besides, it was said that Adam and Eve's children were boys, so what you gonna do have intercourse with your mom?!
No.
The truth behind it is, the name Adam really meant 'all men' and Eve meant 'all women'.
^ Well that's what my Religion teacher said.
Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:29 am
el badman wrote:No we don't, some people really don't NEED to believe in this. Benji was mentioning the fact that irreligious people"fear" faith and religions in general, which is why they feel the need to flame others who do believe. But don't these people (religious) live in fear as well? The fact that you're not comfortable enough with your own existence and with your responsabilities as a human being (provided you acknowledge them), and that you need to believe in guidelines and stories from a book and in a higher authority, wouldn't this be considered as fear as well? Who's afraid the most then?
Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:11 pm
Matthew wrote:That really has nothing to do with what I said.
BUT THE STATE IS IGNORANT!
Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:02 pm
Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:57 pm
Diddy wrote:a whole bible's story bout holy graal! that's bol shit. graal meant like a woman, not a cup! did u see painting " the Lord's Supper"? so u might found NO spesial cup(how tells the legend - graal is a cup, and all apostals drinked with it), and more - if u look at the first apostol, that sitting near the Jusis - it is a Girl(his wife maria), and He and She they've got converted clothes - why?? cuz this is a sign!....
Diddy wrote:which god tells to their Men not to work, and only pray all the days and greating {god}
Diddyiot wrote:and women should work! and also - kill other people!
cyanide wrote:Who, Lennon or Jesus?
Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:34 pm
Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:03 pm
Diddy wrote:it looks like a joke to me!
Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:06 pm
Diddy wrote:shadowgrin,read better u idiot! i've been at turkey, kazachstan... tell me is it normal that God tells the people to pray every "10 minutes"? it looks like a joke to me! God is in everybody's soul! people, who have trust in him should pray when they can, but not all the day!
Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:26 pm
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:21 am
cyanide wrote:Matthew wrote:That really has nothing to do with what I said.
BUT THE STATE IS IGNORANT!
It did have to with what you said, but you somehow mis-interpreted "state" to mean government or nation, when I was talking about "state of" as in, a state of mind. Of course, this might be too much for you to handle mentally, but that's ok.
Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:26 pm
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