Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:15 am
yes i noticed the choppiness.retards over at EA 
Id really like to keep relections up with my card, and we both can , it's just were picky over our framerates though lol.
That so makes we want to get a 9700 card though, and i will soon.it's only about close to $200s or is $200. Thats not bad at all. I still will get a better processor prob a barton 2800 or something. Im gettin more and more the need for speed. I want my games Blazin fast with high 12xaniso and high AntiAliasing. heh , I wonder what the speeds would be with a 9800pro and a barton 3200 on doom 3. cant wait to see that game *Just* cause of the requirements they talk bout on it.
But anyways, i still want to optimize nba live some more, but im out of options.
Id really like to keep relections up with my card, and we both can , it's just were picky over our framerates though lol.
That so makes we want to get a 9700 card though, and i will soon.it's only about close to $200s or is $200. Thats not bad at all. I still will get a better processor prob a barton 2800 or something. Im gettin more and more the need for speed. I want my games Blazin fast with high 12xaniso and high AntiAliasing. heh , I wonder what the speeds would be with a 9800pro and a barton 3200 on doom 3. cant wait to see that game *Just* cause of the requirements they talk bout on it.
But anyways, i still want to optimize nba live some more, but im out of options.
Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:00 am
TechnoNRGKid wrote:yes i noticed the choppiness.retards over at EA
Id really like to keep relections up with my card, and we both can , it's just were picky over our framerates though lol.
That so makes we want to get a 9700 card though, and i will soon.it's only about close to $200s or is $200. Thats not bad at all. I still will get a better processor prob a barton 2800 or something. Im gettin more and more the need for speed. I want my games Blazin fast with high 12xaniso and high AntiAliasing. heh , I wonder what the speeds would be with a 9800pro and a barton 3200 on doom 3. cant wait to see that game *Just* cause of the requirements they talk bout on it.
But anyways, i still want to optimize nba live some more, but im out of options.
Yeah, the 9700 card is awesome. But a word of advice: if you get a 9700 now, get the 9700 non-pro. The difference between that and the 9700pro is ONLY clockspeed (9700np = 275/270, 9700p = 325/310). You can easily flash the bios to a cracked one, and then overclock it yourself (since the original bioses are all locked). Save yourself 50-60 bucks and do it like that! The only problem of course, is that ATI has stopped manufacturing the 9700 series, and are replacing it with the 9800s which are $$$!!..so get yours quick!
Doom3 eh? Hmm..you can check out some reviews of it at different sites:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1821
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDc0
http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20 ... index.html
Keep in mind, all these reviews are biased because they were all conducted from an NVIDIA sponsored event, and that NONE of the ATI cards were using drivers optimized for Doom3. However, they DO give a good general idea of what kind of framerates you may get in that game.
I have the Doom3 Alpha version that was floating around the net, and I've ran it on my setup. It runs OK for an alpha, anywhere between 10-50fps. I'm hoping the final product is much better optimized. The game looks good, but not nearly as good as the screen shots led me to believe.
As far as nba live 2003 optimizations go, I really doubt you can do much more. I think the best way to make it faster, is really to upgrade your cpu. Upgrading your graphics card will do little more for this game.
Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:22 pm
Oh yeah i know to get the 9700 np. Shit i could get the 9500 like you have and do what you did with clockin it to 9700. But they stopped makin them already right? ATI doing this because of the modding? or/and they want to make more money with there higher end cards?
Doesnt matter, they get too dumb and people might come over to nvidia.
The game doom itself doesnt really get my interest, its just the specs that they say its pushing. I could get that alpha, but being like a resident evil game i dont want it. RE had it's time and it's gone. I dont like the route they went with that game now. eh, more games id like to see in the future are like rpg fps's. Like enemy territory and that other new game planetside are taking.
alittle off topic but anyways...
Yeah this will do for nba live for now i guess.
I started playing EAs and Maxis other game Sim city 4 again. now that i got the computer to handle it, i pulled it out of the storage. lol
Doesnt matter, they get too dumb and people might come over to nvidia.
The game doom itself doesnt really get my interest, its just the specs that they say its pushing. I could get that alpha, but being like a resident evil game i dont want it. RE had it's time and it's gone. I dont like the route they went with that game now. eh, more games id like to see in the future are like rpg fps's. Like enemy territory and that other new game planetside are taking.
alittle off topic but anyways...
Yeah this will do for nba live for now i guess.
I started playing EAs and Maxis other game Sim city 4 again. now that i got the computer to handle it, i pulled it out of the storage. lol
Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:36 pm
TechnoNRGKid wrote:Oh yeah i know to get the 9700 np. Shit i could get the 9500 like you have and do what you did with clockin it to 9700. But they stopped makin them already right? ATI doing this because of the modding? or/and they want to make more money with there higher end cards?
Doesnt matter, they get too dumb and people might come over to nvidia.
I still think nvidia has the largest of the market share!
but anyways, i couldn't quite get my memory up to 9700pro speeds. I got cheap infineon 3.3ns memory that can't get past even 303mhz. Besides, you'd have to REALLY o/c the 9500pro in order for it to reach levels of the 9700 since the 9700s have twice the memory bandwidth (256-bit vs 128-bit), but it IS possible! It's too bad they discontinued the 9500pros though, and replaced them with 9600s. The 9600s don't even have the 8 pipelines that the 9500pro and 9700s have, which make them A LOT slower. But yeah, you're right about the reason why they discontinued the 9500s. They're were not crippled enough compared to the 9700s and were expensive to produce.
TechnoNRGKid wrote:The game doom itself doesnt really get my interest, its just the specs that they say its pushing. I could get that alpha, but being like a resident evil game i dont want it. RE had it's time and it's gone. I dont like the route they went with that game now. eh, more games id like to see in the future are like rpg fps's. Like enemy territory and that other new game planetside are taking.
alittle off topic but anyways...
ic ic. Well i dunno, I think Doom3 will still be a cool game. Playability will not be as good as other first person shooters, but it'll be entertainingly scary.
TechnoNRGKid wrote:Yeah this will do for nba live for now i guess.
I started playing EAs and Maxis other game Sim city 4 again. now that i got the computer to handle it, i pulled it out of the storage. lol
hahah I think that is the best idea too. I love seeing my old games blazingly fast now when at the time it ran like a POS. But regardless I'm still REALLY looking forward to nba live 2004 and seeing how good/bad my system runs it.
Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:26 am
oh yeah deffinetly. i cant wait for live 2004 just like everyone else on these boards. id chuck live 2003 right now if it was out, ( once again just like everyone on this board would lol ). i wish there was a b ball game by some other company, id check that out. speakin bout it , i feel like playin it. Overall though, if you just put things like the steals and blocks behind ya, it can be good.
but i will never understand EA how can they implement 12 minute quarters in a game and not test it?! Testing it vs another player doesnt work, and obviously vs the computer did them no good either.
Cpu vs Cpu, i guess thats too hard for them. I find that really fun to watch, seeing how players compare against each other, i dont understand EA. Game watching if they were too do it would be the easiest of all the hard shit they do.
i wonder if there is a poll or something where we can see whos leadin in the market.
So i wonder how the 9600s are, i havent heard much on them, but im sure they suck at softmodding huh. But i guess if i wanted, i could grab a 9500 off of ebay. But like i said ima prob get the 9700, AND seeing that i JUST got a bettter job im prob going to get on 1st or 2nd pay check. With in this month now, i guess ima go to my 2nd upgrade hehe. Just cause im a addicted nerdster speedster, must have tops in computers freak.
I actually really like my xp 1700, so ima start off with gettin better memory, 512 pc 3200 maybe , 2 sticks, and a little extra cooling, then see what i can push it too, THEN get the 2800 or something. just to see what i can get out of the 1700. But its nice to have a back up cpu. since im just startin to build massif numbers of computers, i will soon have plenty of that though
but i will never understand EA how can they implement 12 minute quarters in a game and not test it?! Testing it vs another player doesnt work, and obviously vs the computer did them no good either.
Cpu vs Cpu, i guess thats too hard for them. I find that really fun to watch, seeing how players compare against each other, i dont understand EA. Game watching if they were too do it would be the easiest of all the hard shit they do.
I still think nvidia has the largest of the market share!
but anyways, i couldn't quite get my memory up to 9700pro speeds. I got cheap infineon 3.3ns memory that can't get past even 303mhz. Besides, you'd have to REALLY o/c the 9500pro in order for it to reach levels of the 9700 since the 9700s have twice the memory bandwidth (256-bit vs 128-bit), but it IS possible! It's too bad they discontinued the 9500pros though, and replaced them with 9600s. The 9600s don't even have the 8 pipelines that the 9500pro and 9700s have, which make them A LOT slower. But yeah, you're right about the reason why they discontinued the 9500s. They're were not crippled enough compared to the 9700s and were expensive to produce.
i wonder if there is a poll or something where we can see whos leadin in the market.
So i wonder how the 9600s are, i havent heard much on them, but im sure they suck at softmodding huh. But i guess if i wanted, i could grab a 9500 off of ebay. But like i said ima prob get the 9700, AND seeing that i JUST got a bettter job im prob going to get on 1st or 2nd pay check. With in this month now, i guess ima go to my 2nd upgrade hehe. Just cause im a addicted nerdster speedster, must have tops in computers freak.
I actually really like my xp 1700, so ima start off with gettin better memory, 512 pc 3200 maybe , 2 sticks, and a little extra cooling, then see what i can push it too, THEN get the 2800 or something. just to see what i can get out of the 1700. But its nice to have a back up cpu. since im just startin to build massif numbers of computers, i will soon have plenty of that though